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@SoonHei It is good that you contemplated this. You can perhaps appreciate now just how much the ego identification colorizes reality. The ego for instance may see a cat. If the ego loves cats than it colorizes it by adding things like a cute, cuddly, fuzzy kitty. In true reality it's just an animal with fur. Even that definition is labeling it. But i think you see what i mean. The cute, fuzzy, kitty is just illusory additions that the ego imposes over it. What you may have had was a taste of experiencing reality in an egoless state. The meaningless, hopeless feeling that it left you with was again the ego's way of coming to terms with true reality face on and it didn't like it. But it all goes with the territory of awakening to true reality. Time to drop the rose colored glasses that the ego experiences the world through along with the ego. The good news here is the ego's point of view has been an illusion all along.

@SoonHei No it went away by the next morning. I just wondered why I experienced what I did for a long time afterwards. Lets explore this. Nothing in your room really changed, right? I mean not physically changed. So what did change? What was different?

@SoonHei That was interesting. I think I know what your talking about. I had a similar experiance years ago but yea it's something you don't forget. Reality becomes mostly meaningless, depressing and empty like a child's coloring book without crayons. Sound familiar in a way? It took me some time to see the truth in that experiance.

@SoonHei You can leave out the "sir" part too. Think of me more as a mode of energy expressing itself within consciousness as cetus56.

@saint_charming7 Did you see the reply I left an hour ago on the topic "Spiritual growth makes unhappy"? Yea it's a freaky feeling to become separate from the body location. When it first happened to me it was spontaneous. I never seen it coming and was completely unexpected. I couldn't find much information on it when I researched it. But I know that feeling of "What was that???" "What just happened?"

@Violina Some ppl don't like that feeling of becoming detached from the body. It is a bit freaky to experiance for the first time.

@Violina Have you thought about maybe taking a break from enlightenment work for a while? You can always come back to it when you feel the time is right.

@SoonHei Have you seen this.

@chakra_7654321 Here's my favorite OM meditation to listen to w/headphones. From what I've heard Om is the vibrational sound of the universe.

@SoonHeiSo true. It can't be defined or contained by the mind. It's well outside of all that limited jazz. Not to say the mind still can't enjoy the ongoing show.

@SoonHei In dualistic terms- this reality we share has a beginning and an ending. We experiance space, time, matter and ego for a short while. But the true reality that is infinite and changeless is found inside us not outside. If you look inside you will find it. It's always there in it's changeless state. It is literally an absence of all that is known. It is the wellspring of all things. Yet it contains nothing. Where would an artist put the paint if there were no blank canvas?

@Dodo Thanks. You got it! The quote is Nisargadatta- "Prior to Consciousness".

@SoonHei It's hard to put into words. Like you may think for instance that you are in reality. But that's an illusion. You are reality. Not "in" it. Reality is you/you are reality. No separation. That which has no beginning or end as the experiance of reality. If you wanted to think of it dualistically one could call it "the infinite side of reality".

@the_end_of_me Yea- my bad. It's jhani (enlightened - a god).

@the_end_of_me I probably spelled it wrong.

@SoonHei This whole reality is you. From the largest galaxies to the tiniest speck of dust.

@SoonHei No two paths are ever the same. Learn what you need from others but only self inquiry and surrender will give you direct experiance. Go inward. It's all in you.

@the_end_of_me You in good company. It reminded me of this.... We are not able to understand the state of the yhani if the yhani has become one with the absolute. We don't understand how a yhani can be parabrahman and be here also. A yhani can transcend consciousness and be the absolute on demand. He can come into consciousness because that perticulay body is still available. Through that body communication takes place with the beings in consciousness.

Yea the ego can always have a backlash and revolt against liberation. But if you let go naturally and not forced by drugs I'd say there is a lesser chance of a ego backlash. It will still take adjustment tho. Integration. That's where the real work can start. Before an awakening happens your mostly searching around in total darkness and not sure what you're looking for..

@SoonHei Yes!

@SoonHei It happens when you let go of the illusion of this reality as being real. When you do a higher reality is revealed to you. I know that sounds kind of scary to let go of reality. That's why so few awaken. Compassion becomes prevalent. Love, peace and bliss. Sure that too. But there is no ownership. Yes love would be infinite. But not the kind of love that depends on physical circumstances. This love is from the absolute. That "higher reality" which is infinite and so the love is also.

@SoonHei Sure you can still enjoy "the movie" after awakening. Nothing changes in reality except for the way you see it. You will know it's a movie when others see it as a reality of true substance. But if it were real it would not change. So reality is illusion. Consciousness is a waking dream state. And just like the dreams you have when you sleep sometimes you're aware you are dreaming. And sometimes you are not.

@SoonHei This should help answer your question @ 1:13:00

@Arkandeus Funny b-c I getting more moments of- "wow I'm not really in my bathroom" "wow I'm not really writing this message" Ect, ect-