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@Blissout @Preetom Nisargadatta may have used "I am" interchangeably. One quote is: "stay in the I am and in doing so trancend it". And in another quote: Do not bother about anything you want, or think, or do, just stay put in the thought and feeling, ‘I am’, focusing ‘I am’ firmly in your mind. All kinds of experience may come to you – remain unmoved in the knowledge that all perceivable is transient and only the ‘I am’ endures.

@Charlotte Here it makes perfect sense. Another good quote of Nis- "Recede, recede, recede. Go back the way you came". That's a good practice/contemplation for trancending the "I Am" "What were you before the announcement of your birth?"

@Charlotte Reading your post I too was reminded of the words of Nisargadatta "Stay in the "I AM" and in doing so you will trancend it". Sounds like your heading in the right direction here.

@Tony 845 That's a logical question but the answer can't be put into logical terms. I'm not skirting the issue but what is it that bought you here?

"You cannot remember because you have never forgotten" -Nisargadatta "Nothing is Hidden" -Leo

Wow that's amazing. But I wanna grasp this asides intellectually. @non_nothing It's easy. Just let the bottom drop out of what is you and see what it is that remains. O.K. that may sound like a tall order. But there is the most amazing safety net waiting to catch you.

@non_nothing We could not see what the self is and the voices are as long as we never left it.

@Roman Edouard Meaning is a paradigm suspended only by the conceptual support it's given.

@Roman Edouard When winter comes wood is chopped. Threat? No threat. Just the chopping of wood.

@Roman Edouard The answer I gave came from a squirrel and a change in seasons. Do they need a meaning to exist?

@Roman Edouard When the squirrel gathers nuts winter follows. -Just sitting here contemplating

@Strikr Because there is something there that is beyond meaning.

@Roman Edouard Can you see the paradox here between reality and the mind that relentlessly demands answers for it's own satisfaction? Existance has no questions or reasons why. But yet it exists just fine without.

@Pilgrim Nice one!

It's all a dream we dreamed one afternoon.

@Roman Edouard I felt the same way at your age.

@Ampresus Here's something to meditate on. Your heart space. Where exceptance, love and compassion well up from.

@Ampresus So you resort to physical punishment. You gotta back yourself out of that dead end. Don't know how you got in there but that doesn't matter from here on out.

@Ampresus What do you practice?

@Ampresus Stop meditating till you figure out exactly what the root cause of the self destructive behavior is.

@Serotoninluv I'm heading out to the woods now to do exactly that. Allowing the "God consciousness" to emerge. No inside-no outside.

@Ampresus Yes. Do it long enough in deep silence and the perciever will fall away.

@Serotoninluv If humans could exist as one conscious entity the Earth would be a utopia.

@Jack River How could you explain it when there is nothing there. Nothing explainable that is.

@Jack River What were you before this consciousness came upon you? -Nisargadatta