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@Strikr I love what Will Smith says at the end: "God placed all the best things in life on the other side of fear" Wow is that true. I'm sure you'd learn more about yourself in one jump than 1000's of hours of meditation could show you.

@Tony 845 Here's something different. How about learning skydiving? Jumping out of a plane @ 2000 ft every so often would certainly make all your other life situations seem relatively stress free in compairison.

@Tony 845 I was in the same situation as you some years ago with a young family to support. I decided to put enlightenment on the back burner and just intergrated what I had experienced already which was not enlightenment but cosmic consciousness (oneness with the universe). Than about 5 years ago came back to enlightenment after the kids were well out on their own and all was well established on the physical plane. That's just my story for whatever it's worth.

@Tony 845 I was in the same situation as you some years ago with a young family to support. I decided to put enlightenment on the back burner and just intergrated what I had experienced already which was not enlightenment but cosmic consciousness (oneness with the universe). Than about 5 years ago came back to enlightenment after the kids were well out on their own and all was well established on the physical plane. That's just my story for whatever it's worth.

@Paul5480 It can feel like you have each foot in a different world at first glance of no self. Totally common. Ego is resisting and holding to it's familliar ground state of matter.

@Annoynymous Relative truth is exactly that. Always relative to something else that is relative to something else. That's not truth. It means nothing. Ego backlash happens when someone resists real truth. Absolute truth. For instance if they suddenly realized for themself they have been playing a game of naiveism to avoid absolute truth. That realization could cause an ego backlash.

@Annoynymous Ego backlash happens when there is resistance to what is true.

@WelcometoReality When you don't exist there is no ego death. There is no one there to have an experience of ego death.

@fewrocker Don't kid yourself. Do the shadow work first while your in control. Search honestly in every nook and cranny. When was the last time you allowed yourself to have a good cry?

@Lauritz Because you saw there was no "you" in it and that scared the S&*T out of you. It tends to do that at first glimpse. But cheer up. Something positive did happen. Conscionseness awoken to conscionseness for a moment or two.

The question itself is part of the illusion. The illusion investigating itself when there is nothing there to find. And by whom could it be found by?. Stay in the emptiness. Put all love into no-knowing. There is no one who needs to know anything.

@kieranperez You too? The not knowing is really prevelent today for some reason. The undescribable depth of absolute emptiness is all pervasive. The unreality of reality. The unreality of self. The "dream" world. All this a dream we dreamed one afternoon. -The Greatful Dead

Could everything have popped into existance last Thursday? Or even a second ago? Complete and intact with all the information that creates the illusion of a past?

@kieranperez Thinking about it only makes it worse. Like you may not notice the ringing in your ears until you put attention on it.

@TheAvatarState So your a laughing Buddha are you? Yes that's just his foot!

* It's safe living inside the box. It probally shook his world.

@Jack River Funny you should say that. I just explained Last Thursdayism to the G-F and she said; That's scary!" lol I'll tell you what's scary............ -It's safe living inside "The Box" lol

Nicely said!

But would'nt that be the illusion itself? The illusion of time, space, location?

@LastThursday The whole universe may be just a thought or perception generated by mind. *Good name!

@Nahm I thought you didn't mean it that way but that was the definition I found. You are quite right about the spontanous now. It is complete.

@Nahm Sorry. Had to look that up. Is this what you mean? now-nowism (derogatory) Excessive focus on the present, or on immediate gratification. When these things happen it's spontaneous as if out of nowhere. I never ask for it to happen. It just happens.

@TheAvatarState I don't really much. But it just "feels so close". Like it's already here. All of time that is. Talking about movies, have you ever seen the movie Dune? There's a good sceen where young Paul Artreides is asked if he can see the future. And he says: Yes. Than he is asked how he can see the future. Paul says: I see things in my dreams. Than he's asked: Do all your dreams come true? Paul: No. But I know which ones will.

@TheAvatarState So you fold space? Or do you bore a hole through the side of the tunnel of time and step on out? You know it's all so close. Like you could put your right arm out and it's all right there. Here's something for you. Yesterday my G-F calls about this time and says she will be a little late from work. So we hang up and the thought "hostage situation" comes to mind. And I think "of all things why am i thinking about a hostage situation suddenly". She walks in the door a little later and says "sorry i'm even later than I was supposed to be. The police closed the road near work because a woman has someone held in her house and it's a hostage situation. That kind of thing happens from time to time That's why I say it's all very near. Gap-less even.

@TheAvatarState The topic is meant to serve as a thought experiment to give a glimpse outside the box of linear thought about the illusory movement of time from past to future and the illusion of continuity. Direct experiance may very well be an illusion too. That being said: No difference at all.