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@FrgttnDeer You gotta look beyond the labels and see what they point to.

@Serotoninluv @FrgttnDeer Watched this today. Lots of pointers here. Zero Point energy. Quantum Entanglement. Just to mention a few.

@Barna

For anyone who is interested http://www.edgarcaycenewzealand.com/pdf02/SL1401.pdf "We must develop the faculty between the finite and the infinite, so that the infinite may become a portion of us. We seek to become one with the infinite by the reduction of our soul to its simplest self - its divine essence - and realize this union and identity."

@SoonHei They are already there waiting. Meet 'em half way is all you need to do. Oh yea. watch in your dreams too.

It's the machine elves.

@Shin Are you alright there Shin? Why shouldn't love know no barriers such as space and time?

That's for sure. It ends up all dimensions of time are connected by love.

@SoonHei If you haven't seen it yet be sure to check out the movie Interstellar. It's a good one.

@Shin I couldn't help but to add a little something to it. Nothing has gone to waist.

@Shin The dream becomes reality and reality becomes the dream. What changes is not real. What is real does not change.

"You are prior to this consciousness and whatever is happening in it".

@SoonHei Yea, most do say the "book" comes rushing at them faster than light. Did you ever hear the expression "I thought I was going to die and my whole life passed before me in an instant"

@SoonHei I view reality as being like a book. All the information is at one single location of stillness. But the book can also be picked up and read page by page so it would than take on the addition of time/duration/experiance. It's the only way the mind can know the book. The mind warps reality which is a singularity and it smeers it out over time. That's why infinity escapes the mind. Infinity is not in time.

@SoonHei All time is within a single moment of stillness.

@Toby Yes Nisargadatta refers to beyond consciousness as turiatita or the fifth state.- the parabrahaman "All love for no-knowing" Any wittnessing or "knowing" is still the "I am". "Stay in the "I am" and in doing so you will trancend it". But how many ppl do you actually know who truly moved beyond the "I am"? When there is no one remaining to know there is no one there. The "siddha" state. When nothing but an avitar remains. The guru of guru's.

@Buba Right back at ya.

@Misagh I'll delete that part as it may cause confusion when I say "sort of like an OBD" or "wittness".

@Misagh @fabriciom I experianced this a few weeks ago and made it part of my practice since. Awareness becomes liberated from the body/mind/consciousness location. Than only empty awareness remains without content.

@Buba Here's a picture I took that represents passing through "The Gate of Fear". I know exactly what you mean b-c I've been there. I can't tell you how many times I've come up against the fear and turned away. But that's what builds the trust and faith within us. I alone would have never passed through the gate.

@billiesimon I just listened to the first 5 mins. and as Teal was telling her story it reminded me a lot of the sexual abuses that have been going on in the Catholic church for many-many years. Even if a child was to say something about being abused by father so and so to their parents they would never want to believe it. Telling the truth to a parent who obviously held priests (and the church) in such high reguard was quickly dismissed with a "how dare you accuse a man of the cloth of such things. God is going to punish you". Then the child was forced to not only live with the ongoing sexual abuse but also the guilt and shame that came with it. In the end it wasn't the parents who exposed the abuse it was the children as adults that came forth with the truth.

@Wisebaxter Put it on your "must do" list. It's a communion.

@StephenK Cetus is the imaginary fear each must face and overcome. He's of Greek Mythology. Leo did a video "The Hero's Journey". Plus I like gladiator movies.

@Buba Eairly explorers were warned that if they set out to find new land they would fall off the edge of Earth or be swollowed up by horrid sea monsters like Cetus. I'm sure there were sailors that after spending much time on the seas with only their thoughts started to actually believe in such tales and jumped ship in the middle of the ocean to escape something that existed only in their mind.