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@Leo Gura Lol

@Ingit

@Outer How'd you know I was thinking about the parabrahaman even though I didn't mention it?

@OuterThis is one of the subjects where if you ask 50 ppl you'll get 50 different views. We could throw the word "conscious" or consciousness into the mix too just to make it really complicated. Perception vs awareness vs consciousness. I'll read the link you posted.

@Outer Have you never experianced perfectly empty awareness where even the perceiver was gone?

That's how I perceive it to be. I should add that "true self" and "mine" are all objects of perception. But yes awareness is "no object".

@Ingit Perception needs a perceiver. Awareness extends beyond perceivables and conceivables. in other words perception needs an object to be perceived. Awareness doesn't. It can be perfectly empty.

The greatest gift one can give themself is the freedom to move beyond the self. '

@Nahm Ain't that the truth "That's it, the last time you'll look like today. 'Cause ripples never come back"

@Nahm "Oh why don't you come out- whoever you are. You've followed me quite long enough"

@Nahm Don't forget this one too!

@Seed That's progress belive it or not. Welcome it. You are seeing through the vail of self and moving into something much bigger. Break through it and you will find great compassion for the limited self.. But know that you are not that. You are the absolute that surrounds the limited you. I'm not good with putting it into words but, I JUST HAD A BREAKTHROUGH. What I say is truth with a capital "T". Fresh off the vine. I'm not this. I am that! This is the realization. The greatest gift one can give themself is the freedom to move beyond the self.

@John Iverson See a doctor if it's persistant.

Irrelevant topic to meditation, spirituality, enlightenment, ect

@Barry J There are plenty of forums out there for you to express your boredom. But this isn't one of them.

@Serotoninluv Is that good or bad mental states? In the bottom video the translater guy in the green shirt seems super chill. Notice that? Like nothing could take him out of his mental state.

@Hellspeed Welcome. You got my interest and found some good videos on Zang Fu. Interesting stuff. Very holistic view of body and mind. For instance it's a must to have a bowl movement first thing in the morning before starting a day. If not the mind is dull and energy will be low. Or that excessive thinking and worry can damage the spleen. If the body isn't functioning properly the mind isn't either and everything is out sync. No way to start a day of practice.

@Good-boy Actually it's been 40 years since but I took a 34 year break from the work. 3 years than and 3 years now. I'd say I got farther in the last 3 years than I did in the first 3. Two factors. 1) there is so much more access to information now. 2) being that I'm older and closer to death this work takes on a whole new meaning than it did when I was young. It's true meaning is now much deeper than just a lofty concept to hold my interest when not playing video games or hanging with friends.

@who chit I get it now. It's like a Soylent Green kind of thing. Thanks

@Mikael89 That's why real answers are important to all of us. So nothing can enslave us. Not even ourselves.

@CreamCat So to what end do these Archons do this? For what outcome?

@Solace You got it.

@cirkussmile Agreed. I would have given my right arm for one gem like that when I first started this journey, in the dark ages before internet.

@Leo Gura I can attest to this. I started this journey back in the late 70's after some substance experimentation and experianced somthing other than an "ordinary" state of conscionseness. I had no idea what that was or if I was crazy or something but I knew it felt truer than anything I ever experianced before. So the question became "Have I gone crazy from the drug" "What is this?" and " Can I have this awareness naturally without the use of drugs?". I had no idea at all. So I went to a book store in the local mall and finially found a book called "Cosmic Consciousness" and knew this is it. There was so little on the subject even in the local library. And what information was there on enlightenment wasn't very straight forward either. Actually it was buried like a tic on a dog. I mean what was there wasn't exactly labled in large letters "THIS IS WHAT ENLIGHTENMENT IS". At least not for a newbie who had no idea what to look for. Now with the internet, how lucky we are to have access to this wealth of in depth information on the subject. And also to be able to connect to ppl who can share their experiance and even have a place where we can ask a direct question and get a direct answer almost immediatly. Imagine for a moment being in the 60's or 70's and experiancing something you could'nt explain logically. What would you be thinking? What would you do? Would you ask someone on the street? Maybe travel to India? The simple questions I had that were so important to me at the time took years to find an answer to. And even if I did find the answer it wasn't a direct answer. That's why today I sometimes see these silly little questions like, "why does my left arm itch when I meditate". And I can't help to think, you can't come up with a better question to ask about enlightenment than that? I would have been happy just to know if I was going crazy or not. Or what is happened to me?. Or What is this? Leo is right. He sometimes spoils us by making it way too easy. All the internet guru's do. I'll go as far to say a lot of what I see actually does more to hand feed the ego a healthy meal of knowlage for it to get nice and plump on. You see it often. It's called "non-duality wars". That thing of one upmanship. A sure sign of a spoiled ego that has it way to easy and didn't do the real work at hand.