Something Funny

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  1. Posted · Edited by Something Funny

    4 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

    why I should believe that the current supplements availible are sufficient in nourishing us with over 5 micronutrients missing in a vegan diet.

    What nutrient exactly do you think a vegan diet can't provide despite the supplements and a good diet planning? 

    You can't even be specific because you are talking out of your ass.

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    @NewKidOnTheBlock

    1 minute ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

    But his response was mainly about the LDL cholesterol, and none of you provided a sufficient enough reason why I shouldn't eat meat at all, or even in a reasonable quantity, and why I should believe that the current supplements availible are sufficient in nourishing us with over 5 micronutrients missing in a vegan diet.

    That was not the point. The point was that your claim about vegan diet being less healthy than an omnivore one was full of shit and you couldn't neither provide any evidence that would support your claim nor disprove evidence that they showed you.

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    2 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

    Yes, whilst acknowledging the absolute truth of your cult, am I right? I just have to acknowledge that I'm wrong and that vegan diet is the best and all that stuff about saving animals, and only then am I allowed to humbly say "but I actually don't want to be vegan although you guys eat better than me" haha that's what you'd want eh? Unfortunately there are valid health reasons to not be vegan or even a vegetarian. And that is not going to change any time soon.

    You are the one who has to come up with bullshit excuses and talk about children and pets, not me. 

    Why no response to Michael and Emerald? You were so sure that you were right, I thought you did your research.

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    1 minute ago, Ero said:

    Do you know what it’s like to eat only rice and beans for a month?

    I do, actually. Its not that bad in my experience. You can mix it with oil, ketchup, onions, garlic, tomato paste... Maybe you guys just don't know how to cook?

    And you are not supposed to lose weight if you eat enough calories.

    But again. If meat and eggs is what worked for you then ok. 

    4 minutes ago, Ero said:

    I lost 12 kg.

    4 minutes ago, Ero said:

    Adding eggs and cheap meat is what saved me.

     

    Sounds like they didn't...

    6 minutes ago, Ero said:

    Glad to hear you are not treated poorly. Here in the US, even at an elite college, I have gotten “dirty immigrant” and “go back to your country” numerous times. Those people always speak with the assumption you are not educated “are you aware”. My bad for coming at you, but I hope you realise that phrasing of the question matters. 

    I am sorry.

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    1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

    And if in your case you wasn't feeling capable of going vegan - its okay. Whether it was the finances or you just had too much on your plate, or whatever. It doesn't matter. You don't need to feel like you need an excuse for not being vegan.

    This is what annoys me the most actually. If people here just said that they don't want to be vegan - I would be fine with it. But you guys feel the need to come up with random bullshit and twist facts becuase you feel like you need an excuse.

  10. Posted · Edited by Something Funny

    8 minutes ago, Ero said:

    am from the Balkans. GDP per capita is comparable to Ukraine’s.  Prices I am referring account for the crazy inflation we have been having. Point is at 3k a year, even with a price disparity we are not even close to a comfortable wage.

    Yes, obviously 3k a year is not a comfortable wage. But then its not comfortable, period. Whether you are vegan or not.

    And if in your case you wasn't feeling capable of going vegan - its okay. Whether it was the finances or you just had too much on your plate, or whatever. It doesn't matter. You don't need to feel like you need an excuse for not being vegan.

    But, as a matter of fact, I don't think that vegan diet would be that much more expensive. Unless you are a gourmet like Schizofonia and are averese to "slave" food like rice and beans, lol.

    8 minutes ago, Ero said:

    p.s You being Eastern Europe makes the phrasing of the question even worse. Have you never been talked down upon to know that is not appreciated?

    Actually, most Polish people are really nice to me, even if I had a few individual bad experiences. But it doesn't matyer because I wasn't talking down to you. I asked you a straightforward question. Your interprentation of it is not my responsibility.

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    @Ero I asked are you aware, because I was not sure if you are aware...

    And I am not a westerner btw, I am from Ukraine, living in Poland right now. My sister lived in Canada for 2 years so I know for a fact that her salary would need to be at least 2.5 x of mine to afford a similar level of lifestyle. And Poland isn't even a poor country.

    And US is even more expensive than Canada from what I know. So for your lifestyle to be just 2 times more expensive than back home, you would have to be coming from a pretty decent country. Which is why I am asking you where you are from as your story doesn't seem to be that solid to me.

  22. Posted · Edited by Something Funny

    40 minutes ago, Ero said:

    Just an added perspective: Veganism is very much a privileged diet. When a person makes in a month what you spend in a single shopping spree in WholeFoods and what not, it's not really feasible. Especially when you don't have access to stores with "replacements" which are most of times 2x the price the originals. I totally sympathize with the environmental impact and health considerations of being Vegan. But you have to remember large parts of the world don't even have consistent meals. 

    Do you mind explaining why you think so? Why would replacing meat, egg, and cheese, which are super expensive, with lentils, chickpeas, and bean be more expensive? I have only committed to a full vegan diet a few months ago and my food costs stayed more or less the same (about 200-300$ per month). Whole foods / eco / organic foods is a separate thing. It's not exclusive to veganism you can eat only organic foods as an omnivore and you can eat only junk food and noodles as a vegan.

    You don't need any fancy meat or cheese replacements. Those are mostly just a rate snack. Just like a meat eater would go to a restaurant and order burger once in a while, a vegan will go to a restaurant and order a vegan burger once in a while. Nobody uses those products as staple foods in their diet.

    40 minutes ago, Ero said:

    But you have to remember large parts of the world don't even have consistent meals. 

    I think poorer parts of the world are actually much closer to vegan diets, even if they are not strict vegans. Meat consumption is the highest in rich, western countries.

  25. Posted

    @NewKidOnTheBlock sorry, I just think that whenever people use language like this it says a lot about them. 

    Good to hear that you are better than that. And I agree that I have gotten pretty emotional, but that's only because you guys can be dense as fuck.

    23 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

    willing to prove something to people who don't even know

    I am not sure what you think I am trying to prove to you? I am not asking you to become vegan it just pisses me off when you guys strawman and misrepresent veganism so much.