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This is what annoys me the most actually. If people here just said that they don't want to be vegan - I would be fine with it. But you guys feel the need to come up with random bullshit and twist facts becuase you feel like you need an excuse.

Yes, obviously 3k a year is not a comfortable wage. But then its not comfortable, period. Whether you are vegan or not. And if in your case you wasn't feeling capable of going vegan - its okay. Whether it was the finances or you just had too much on your plate, or whatever. It doesn't matter. You don't need to feel like you need an excuse for not being vegan. But, as a matter of fact, I don't think that vegan diet would be that much more expensive. Unless you are a gourmet like Schizofonia and are averese to "slave" food like rice and beans, lol. Actually, most Polish people are really nice to me, even if I had a few individual bad experiences. But it doesn't matyer because I wasn't talking down to you. I asked you a straightforward question. Your interprentation of it is not my responsibility.

@Ero I asked are you aware, because I was not sure if you are aware... And I am not a westerner btw, I am from Ukraine, living in Poland right now. My sister lived in Canada for 2 years so I know for a fact that her salary would need to be at least 2.5 x of mine to afford a similar level of lifestyle. And Poland isn't even a poor country. And US is even more expensive than Canada from what I know. So for your lifestyle to be just 2 times more expensive than back home, you would have to be coming from a pretty decent country. Which is why I am asking you where you are from as your story doesn't seem to be that solid to me.

Lol. Says a guy from a country that invented eating frogs. Apparently you have never had a good bean soup. Its literally one of the tastiest things on this planet.

@Ero how's that a demeaning question? I am asking because I would like compare the prices for myself to know the truth instead of trusting some random guy online who might be full of shit for all I know.

@Michael569 what do you like about JP?

@Ero where are you from? Are you aware of the concept called purchasing power?

@AION have you counted? Which country's economy did you base your calculations on? What vitamins were you buying? How many times per year did you do blood work and doctor visits in this hypothetical scenario? What makes you think that omnivore diet doesn't require bloodwork, doctor visits, and supplements? Hospitals are packed with omnivores.

can you edit titles? Edit: you actually can, lol

I am not talking about that. I don't care what you think about stupid beans. I am talking about you being a racist.

what are you even talking about? Sorry, I am really trying to be nice here, but you guys just have no respect. I am done entertaining this nonsense.

unrelated, but I love your profile pic

@Schizophonia I am not familiar with ken wilber's quadrants. What you wrote didn't seem holistic. True on some level - yes, but definitely not taking the whole picture into perspective.

Do you mind explaining why you think so? Why would replacing meat, egg, and cheese, which are super expensive, with lentils, chickpeas, and bean be more expensive? I have only committed to a full vegan diet a few months ago and my food costs stayed more or less the same (about 200-300$ per month). Whole foods / eco / organic foods is a separate thing. It's not exclusive to veganism you can eat only organic foods as an omnivore and you can eat only junk food and noodles as a vegan. You don't need any fancy meat or cheese replacements. Those are mostly just a rate snack. Just like a meat eater would go to a restaurant and order burger once in a while, a vegan will go to a restaurant and order a vegan burger once in a while. Nobody uses those products as staple foods in their diet. I think poorer parts of the world are actually much closer to vegan diets, even if they are not strict vegans. Meat consumption is the highest in rich, western countries.

@PurpleTree that good to know. I hope I will get a chance to travel across Europe by train one day. By train and also by bike. With my girlfriend. Will be so cool.

Is there anyone here who does zero waste? Are you fully committed to it or are you just trying to minimize your waste as much as you can? If you are fully committed, was it hard to implement? I've found that there are quite a few logistical challenges to it. For example the nearest store that sell products by weight, instead of packaging them is all the way across the city from me. I am also still not completely sure what you are supposed to do about the garbage bags. My plan is to try to live without them completely and see how it goes.

@PurpleTree Ibreally wishbtrains were more developed in Europe. They are okay within a country but travelling abroad by train is not the best idea. Even bus is better in my opinion.

@NewKidOnTheBlock sorry, I just think that whenever people use language like this it says a lot about them. Good to hear that you are better than that. And I agree that I have gotten pretty emotional, but that's only because you guys can be dense as fuck. I am not sure what you think I am trying to prove to you? I am not asking you to become vegan it just pisses me off when you guys strawman and misrepresent veganism so much.

What the actual fuck are you talking about, lol? I don't care if you are a cuck or beta or whatever. Those words are not even a part of my vocabulary. This is a misogynist and demeaning thing to say. Saying that women basically have no control over themselves and their decisions. And have no independence over their choices. Like they are basically some intellectually inferior, airheaded tools. I hate when people say shit like that. And also you say that you have been "field testing" it and that you haven't found an exception yet. Which is just a load of bullshit. Have you slept with literally every woman that you have ever approached? Have you never had even 1 rejection, ever?

@PsychedelicEagle sure, blood is blood and it will be useful no matter why it was given, but giving it with thatkind of mindset is really funny.

Sorry, I happen to be allergic to stupidity.

@AION Huh? Somehow all everyone here does is engages with me...

Lol, good job identifying yourself as a brain dead red piller from reddit. You are right, there is no reason for us to keep talking. Go listen to andrew tate or whatever rapist is popular with you guys nowadays.

Its literally the same dumb type of video that you've share like 10 times already. Its even from the same playlist, lol. Like I've already said, come back when you are able to share something of value.

You are the one who posts the same retarded video again and again like a chatbot, lol. You can't even quote the right person.