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@Sugarcoat I don't like to use terms good or bad, but yeah, I don't want animals to be killed, period.

@Sincerity I actually argued with a vegan about this. They were saying that veganism is for the animals and not for yourself and I was arguing that everything that you do in life is for yourself. So, answering your question, I don't see how "I love animals" isn't for myself.

Yes, I just don't have any.

Yeah, it's a bad cam. Although I think black should also look nice with them. Yeah, but I don't mind getting some advise. If you think this is not the case that's fine. But I would like to understand why.

@MarkKol Besides, I was born in the year 2000. I literally own this age. I can wear whatever I want.

@NoSelfSelf yeah, I understand, but just trying to have a wider stand to "take up more space" sounds stupid. How can you claim to be confident and manly when you are like "oh no, my legs are not wide enough"? My legs are at the width where they feel anatomically comfortable to be.

@MarkKol what? How am I pretending to be 90s kids? I have no idea what 90s kids wore where you are from. I grew up in Ukraine. Besides, these are barefoot shoes, which didn't even exist in the 90s.

@Leo Gura where did you get your thumbnails before AI? Were you actually hiring someone to make them?

@Buck Edwards sorry, I know you are a nice person, but this is really stupid. Just your run of the mill dumb anti-vegan "gotcha" arguments. I expected more from actualized.org, to be honest.

wdym? How do you stand?

@NoSelfSelf @daydrinking @Nemra guys, you are blowing my mind right now. How is dark blue and pink a bad combo? I always liked how it looked. https://in.pinterest.com/pin/107171666109439284/ https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/858358010210902562/ https://paperheartdesign.com/blog/color-palette-pleasantly-purple https://paperheartdesign.com/blog/color-palette-pleasantly-purple How do I stand?

Here's how they look on me if anyone's curious https://imgur.com/a/zHoFGsd

@Salvijus cool

For everyone, maybe not. LIke Leo said that he can't eat much besides meat due to his illness. But for many people it is totally practicable.

That's not what most vegans argue for. That's a strawman of veganism. Here is a definition of veganism from r/vegan subreddit: Veganism: A philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals. If you are asking about that extent according to vegan people - read the definition. If you are talking about metaphysics and spirituality, then it doesn't matter and you can genocide the entire planet. Same answer. if you are trying to talk about spirituality, then nothing is inappropriate. If you are talking about our human existence, then many people find it inappropriate and excessive. You don't have to agree with them, like I said, it's not some absolute truth. But I do agree with them.

And? Does that justify an an all or nothing mentality of saying "well, if some animals are dying anyway, I might as well not care and go on a murder spree"? "Crap, I scratched my knee, gotta cut off the whole leg now" To a significantly lesser extent.

@Princess Arabia saying and Is along the lines of saying that you can control your suffering and that it is imaginary. I didn't ask chat gpt interpret what you've said. I just asked it to reference spiritual schools that practice silence in one form or another, since you've never heard about such practice before...

@Princess Arabia seriously? You've never heard anyone talk about how suffering is imaginary, or how you create your own suffering, or how you can transcend suffering? And practicing silence is also a pretty common spiritualy practice, I believe. This is from chatgpt:

@Princess Arabia totally not obvious to me, but okay

Those sound like common spirituality talking points. If you don't consider them to be spirituality related - doesn't matter. I was referring to this, call it whatever you want.

@Princess Arabia is it impossible to make you suffer? do you only talk at job interview? I have honestly nothing against you personally, and I think you are cool, but I find people sitting on spiritual high horses kind of annoying.

@Princess Arabia come on, really?

@Salvijus This is so not true that it feels like he is intentionally being dishonest, especially with his every turtle comment. Do you believe what he said? Like honestly? What do you think farm animals eat? Sunshine and good vibes? They eat those same crops. In fact, I believe it is a commonly known fact in the vegan community (although I don't have any numbers on hand) that most of the crops we grow are grown for animal consumption. This is the reason Amazon rainforest is cut in brazil for example, to grow crops to feed the cows. Buy refusing to eat animals you also significantly reduce the amount of crops we need to grow, which reduces all this collateral damage a lot. It's much more energy efficient to eat plants yourself then to have an animal eat it -> produce meat -> eat the meat. If I had to guess, probably 90% of energy and resources is wasted on this food transformation. ... And the hunting argument is just really stupid. Sorry, but it's really stupid. He must feel really cool and special hunting with bow and arrow. But only because he is not a very bright person. If he was at least a little bit smarter, he would realise that hunting is not sustainable at all. And I don't mean it in the generic "sustainability" term. It is literally physically not sustainable. If everyone who eats factory farmed meat decided to stop and go hunt their food instead, it would have been a catastrophe. We would have run out of things to hunt in a month probably. While also destroying whatever forests, wild places, and ecosystems we have left, completely ruined. Imagine there is suddenly 8 billion people running around forests and parks, driving cars, camping, shitting, littering, shooting guns, trying to kill whatever they see. It is ridiculous for a grown man to make this argument. And he somehow seems to be really proud of it, like he is better than others, lol. What he should do is shut up and feel super grateful for being privileged enough to be able to afford going out on regular hunting trips. 99% of people could never even do that, simply for financial reasons.

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