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@BlueOak Sorry if I was too harsh. Like I said, I get too emotional about it sometimes. I am not saying that you should go to war. So? Let him take it. Let whoever wants to fight - fight and whoever doesn't want to fight - not fight. Like I've said. Putin is not going to last forever. I don't mind it as long as it's a simple deal based on mutual consent. What I mind is other countries / people pushing Ukraine to keep fighting, pushing them to keep recruiting more soldiers, lowering conscription age, etc. All the while giving Ukraine just enough weapons and ability to fire them to keep dragging this war along, but not enough to ever finish it. Just look at what Biden administration is doing right now with trying to send extra weapons to Ukraine and allowing Ukraine to use long range missiles AFTER they lost the election. It just tells me that all those excuses about ww3, and nukes, and escalation are bullshit. Nobody is seriously afraid of this. They just enjoy how things are going right now.

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You are incapable of realising my point, which is that while all people want safety, some people are audacious enough to exploit others for their own safety, like you. I am not sacrificing any lives. I am advocating for the war to stop, thus saving as many lives as possible. Ever heard of a sunken costs fallacy? It's not my fault that you value a chunk of land belonging to one country over another more than a human life. Not sure how this rambling about good, and bad, and ego connects with what I am saying? Are you incapable of thinking on your own instead of just parroting the same spiritual keywords whether they fit or not? You are not a bad guy because you disagree with me, I simply think that people who use the lives of others in this kind of cold blooded politics game are pathetic, and you happen to be one of those people. Nowhere did I say that I want to be great or anything like that, I simply find people like you repulsive and get emotional about it. You make me want to throw up. It's that simple.

@BlueOak love how you twist my words to suit your convenience. I am the one arguing against the war here. My defintion of a selfish coward is - gambling other people's lives for your own personal gain and safety. Oh I am sorry, I didn't know that have a phd worth of of arguing with people on online forums. Of course you must have the clearest perspective of us all then. you are the one who tagged my week old comment and proposed to intentionally have other people keep dying because your strategic genius told you that it is the best option. I have a short temper when it comes to pathetic, petty worldviews like that. But you are right, we don't have to keep talking. We just have to wait and have time prove you wrong.

So you are just a selfish coward, got it. Then stop pretending that you are arguing from some kind of strategic standpoint and just said that it benefits you more that Ukraine keep suffering as long as you ass is safe. Ukraine is losing its positions and people. You can speculate as much as you want about how Russia is running out of tanks, or how they are burning through their population, but it's Ukraine that has been losing pretty consistently as of late. All the rest is just you talking out of your ass, with no proof to back up your words.

@BlueOak also, I just love it when people nonchalantly play with others lives, while sitting in safety and comfort themselves. If you are so sure that continuing the war is so good then why don't you put your actions where your mouth is and go join Ukraine on the front lines? Stay there for a year and then tell me how you feel about staying there for another decade.

@BlueOak okay, so if Russia keeps fighting this war, their arms will run out, and they will have no resources or country left. And if Ukraine continues fighting, they will be heavily invested by the EU, and hence have indefinite resources to keep fighting. Amazing logic, especially considering how: - Ukraine is the one who lacking resources and proper support at the moment, and is losing territories because they don't have enough men and weapons. - Russia manufactures more weapons per year than all of EU combined. - Russia can send missiles all over Ukraine damaging its power stations, factories, roads, railroads, etc., while Ukraine can only attack a few hundred km into Russia. But I guess if they just keep fighting forever the situation will somehow magically turn around /s And if the war gets placed on hold, Russia will have new troops, new equipment, new supply lines etc. Which won't apply to Ukraine for some reason. I guess they would just sit and do nothing. They wouldn't regroup, or rearm, or rebuild their infrastructure, or strengthen their borders, or make new deals with the west, and EU wouldn't use that chance to up its weapon's manufacturing so that it could actually be on par with Russia. That also makes perfect sense...

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Crazy times, lol

1. You don't know what will actually happen 2. Even if Russia invades again, it's still better than non stop war. Time and stalling is on the Ukrainian side. Putin is not immortal.

I didn't ask for a clarification.I am saying that this has nothing to do with your argument about duty. I also don't agree that Zelenskyi is the cause of war, this is just your nutjob opinion, but that's not the point..

Says a guy who has ignored most of my points. I didn't quote a part about Zelenskyi because I don't see how it is relevant to the argument I am making.

I am talking about how in order to make an argument that "you have a duty towards your country, therefore you should go and fight in war", you should first prove thaat fighting in a war is what's best for your country. Maybe what's best for his country is for him to run away so that he can keep Ukrainian heritage alive. Maybe what's best for his country is to give up right now, survive under Russian occupation, and then gain independese once Putin's regime collapses. Saving hundreds of thousands of lives. But you hypocrites only use "duty" when it means sending someone to get their legs blown up, accomplishing nothing. Simply because it sounds very cool and patriotic, and movie like. Life is not holywood.

And I believe that you should be my slave. What makes you think that you can force your believes onto other people? Besides, you would also have to make an argument that fighting this war is what's best for Ukraine, which is yet to be proven. What you really are saying is that people have a duty to blindly follow your goverments orders. Once again, if everyone ran away, there would be no war. I love how you use this argument only when it's convenient to you. Once gain, good for you, but what makes you think that you have a right to push your arbitraty, pulled out of ass values, onto other people?

Like a decent human being that isn't willing to kill anyone. Ironic, coming from someone who lives in safety and comfort while moralising to a person who lives in a war zone.

@AION again, if everyone was like him, there would be need to run away.

@AION and? If everyone thought like him there would be no need to defend Ukraine because there would be no war.

You know what else is myopic? Allowing Ukraine to use long range missiles only after losing the election. What was that about, a final fuck you? Now we don't care so you can do whatever you want? What's the endgame there? Biden administration only doing it after they lost shows that they don't care about "escalation", or third world war, or whatever. It's just a political game for them.

If he could actually reach some kind of peace deal, even if it's a shitty peace deal, it would still be better than god knows how many years of constant war.

Why?

If Trump administration actually ends the war, which is a big if, I will be happy that he became the president.

@porque A totally random idea, and maybe things don't work how I imagine them to work at all, but what if you became a truck driver? There are still Ukrainian truck drivers who transport cargo to the EU, right? If this is the case, you could actually leave and enter the country legally, and then just bounce once you cross the border.

@porque man, I am really sorry that you have to go through all this. It's really hard to say what I would do in this situation. I think you definitely shouldn't try to get smuggled or cross the border illegally. Even if you make it, what are you going to do next? You will be staying illegally in a foreign country, it would be its own can of worms. If you are able to leave by bribing some official on the Ukrainian side, and then enter another country legally, that could work. But you would need to be sure that it will work. Trying to hold out in Ukraine could also be a valid option. Both options are high risk, basically. either you risk to spend who knows how long leaving in a war zone, assuming you won't die, or you risk getting caught trying to escape, and then you are also fucked. The best plan is probably to get the most out of life you have now, while keeping your eyes open for opportunities to leave that might appear and learning about the ways you could escape. It seems like you have a solid job, at least. That's already something.

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