Vlad Ropotica

my only hope is that i'll experience the same thing as eckhart tolle ,but i already experienced ego death several times last week,i'm not sure if it'll ever be permanent

I never give up on meditation , all these three years i never wanted to admit that meditation made my suffering increase(i've been meditating every day for more than an hour,and now i spend time meditating more than everything else) , but this just makes everything better.Yesterday i just couldn't sleep,i experience so much suffering that i couldn't even think well,screaming ,punching the pillow...and then i remembered the experience that eckhart tolle had, and started to wonder about that ,and realized that what made him experience enlightenment was an intense emotion , i began to sat crosslegged and started to meditate ,it made my emotions worse,and that's what i intended ,and after a couple of minutes ,i saw and felt all my body as being as not being mine anymore,couldn't see any difference between my arm and other objects,i felt completely shocked and i could see every single thought that ''I '' had without any attachment to it , and then it was like i lost all my willing to defend my body, and this gave me a huge feeling of calmness,this lasted for 4 to 6 hours. INCREDIBLE : i always wanted to get rid of my intense negative emotions because i thought that they actually destroy my benefits from meditation ,but they actually increased in intensity during meditation , and in a good sense ,i never imagined that it will come to this, today i exerienced two more times the same experience as yesterday ,it feels like i will get massive benefits because of this.

@rorghee try to overcome the feelings that distract you and remember to concentrate on the same thing ,over and over again.This is about your wellbeing after all

@rorghee you can concentrate on whatever you want ,i keep my eyes closed when i meditate and that's why i choose a body sensation

@rorghee i concentrate on my lips's sensation , you don't ignore anything ,you just pay attention to a single thing,and don't worry first time it will be almost impossible to concentrate for a long period of time ,it will get way easier after some sessions,its ok if you manage to concentrate for a number of seconds

And if you think that meditation gets you nowhere you're deeply wrong ,there are a lot of things that i don't believe when it comes to meditation (counciousness,awareness,a lot of philosophical theories) but there are also some things that are real for me and i experienced them,like feeling intense happines for long periods of time (i was just waking up and didn't want to get out of my meditation position because it felt too good ,for like 6 hours)

After a lot of meditation ,your whole life becomes meditation , i don't have to start my meditation anymore,if i sit i get relaxed ( just trying to tell you some benefits )

a meditation is done well when it leads you to long periods of relaxation(or calmness,peace),or at least a number of seconds if you're a beginner,for me it seems that the concentration one is one of the best.

I hope this is the reason why your meditation stopped working ,i don't know how you meditate ,but if you ask me ,i try to keep it simple,if you concentrate on a single point for a long period of time your mind and body relax ,for example ,when you concentrate on your breath

Hello rorghee, i've been meditating for three years now (and i'm still doing it ) i started it because i really wanted to get out of a terrible depression ,in short time (like two months) i started to feel more happy and sometimes i experienced moments when i had no thoughts,but after a year i experienced the same problem ,my maditation habit not only that was harder to do but it was making my life more stressed ,but i didn't give up because i never experienced something that changed my life in such a way like meditation,so after a long period of time i realised that i was reeeeeaaaaaally angry ,and i didn't know how to ''express '' that anger ,until one time when someone said something that infuriated me and i started to to flex my forearm (i don't know a better word for this :)) ) and all of a sudden i felt like i released some negative energy lets say,i want to ask you: do you feel like your thoughts are '' exploding '' in your head? do you sometimes feel like you want to punch something? if yes ,don't do it , but try to get angry,flex your muscles, even growl if you want(imagine some guys from the gym) ,punch a pillow. Some people experience a lot of anger during their meditation habit ,including me ( when i found out about this i screamed,flexed and got angry for a whole month non stop) ,but don't give up on meditation ,there is a possibility that the meditation itself creates this negative energy (to some people) that you need to release,but there will be amazing benefits if you continue it . Even Leo had a video where he said that some meditators may experience huge frustration.

This is my story for those who are meditating for a lot of time and received very poor benefits,or even made it worse in some of their life parts one month and a half ago i finally met the single person that is involved in meditation and yoga from my city(he was kind of a yoga master),he gave me a big face when i told him that one day i sat 6 hours in meditation and got no achieves :)) .he told me this :'' yes,pain is the best tool to transcend ,but,you must take it in moderation,stop butchering your body,if you want to transcend ,first you need to take care of your body'' . Now i am doing yoga and meditation ,i am going to forest every day ,and eating lacto-vegan.I got to admit that these last two weeks i felt like never before ,finally i had enough energy to feel the pain, maybe i had an ''extatic experience'' in my meditation practice ,but that was NOTHING comparing to the constant energy and autenticity that i have right now. -What i did in this one month: if i felt that the pain is too intense and i could not observe it ,i went to the forest ( if we are from the forest,it can give us a sort of energy that we used to have before we built houses,cityes,and whe ran away from our native places) i started to do what i like again,because i needed more energy for meditation when i go to the forest,i am visualising everything that makes me suffer,just to accept the suffering i do yoga every day and a breathing exercise i am more careful with my body and what i am eating -What i achieved in this one month: i have ALOT of energy, yesterday i climbed ''Ceahlau'' a mountain from my country ( 1907 meters height) ate very poor before that and holding in my hands a bag of 22 pounds (and still had alot of energy before that) i am doing more things without thinking of them,i mean,i do not think that a single day of this month passed without climbing a mountain and doing much more stuff i have much more control over my decisions i am able to use my attention much better i got better with girls (god bless meditation :)) ) i am more sociable my constant state (my well-being) is getting better and better every day -My advices for you guys -Do NOT exagerate the meditation ,observe the pain in moderation ,if you do that every time without a break( without recharging yourself) you will create more neurosis (as i did) -concentrate on your energy,go into forest, connect with nature,the quietness and energy of nature will give you enough power to feel the pain (preferable to feel the pain in nature) -take care of your body,if your body is feeling good,you are feeling good -DO NOT butcher yourself,set a limit in your meditation habit,if you are meditating,and it is feeling worse,more meditation wont do any better (6 hours of meditation guys...six hours for nothing...) -the meditation posture IS important ,when you are meditating ,do not just sit hunched -try yoga Things are going to get much much better in time,as long as i keep my practice Good luck on your journey guys,hope i make a difference in your decisions

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@Shab-e Ma_araj meditation means more adaptability ,why do you need to chose something? After 10 months of daily meditation i ended up doing more things then before,why? because i stopped guilting myself ,but ,i haven't gave up meditation. you don't have to give up to your pleasures,but be councious while doing them.you know you can meditate every time? not just 20 -30 minutes a day,and you can do that while doing everything that you are basically doing in your day time.I won't give up to pleasures because i thought its necesary,i will give up to them because i will do them councious and i will realise i don't need them anymore .

i decided to meditate every single time every day, just returning home i was concentrated on my body sensations , and then,my thoughts slowly started to shut up ,and couldn't sense so much emotions in my head zone like i usually experience.and then my body was like going itself to home :)) , i was just watching every reaction and every move i was doing

Can someone explain me why if i observe one ( ore more ) of my emotions the suffering disappears ? ( it becomes like an ordinary sensation in my body) It's like when i'm observing it (the emotion),it loses its intensity.

Thanks for the insights guys, its pretty weird that the sensations make the most of our life, I sometimes can feel the pulsations of my thoughts, that makes me wonder if when the time comes ( when i will know my body perfectly) will i (the body) still need the thoughts

I'm in holiday and i think its a good idea to meditate at night.At day,my home is full of many people and i'm getting very angry if i try to meditate( today i tried to meditate 6 hours.......hoping that in some point the angryness will disappear,but i cant do it if the cup is refilled again and again) so what do you think about this? i do only strong determination sitting with my eyes closed,i think its the most effective meditation

@SaynotoKlaus In my opinion you have very strong emotions,and by emotions i do not mean just anger ,fear ,sadness etc. .Think about it,most of my emotions per day are coming in my head zone(and it is painful but when i am councious of them (exploring them,paying attention to them)the pain dissapears and the only thing that remains is just a body sensation) combine a strong determination sit with a meditation that pays attention to whats happening in your body ,if it feels wierd,feel the wierd;if it feels that it doesn't work,feel that frustration;if it feels that pain you are talking about,feel that pain;and if it feels that you are fainting,feel that faint :))( i did that once) I am that guy who yesterday screamed of anger because he waisted 5 hours of the day with a wrong meditation. This process also needs strategy,i just sat and do the do nothing technique in the place where i anger the most.Make a strategy about your meditation,if it doesn't work and goes into worse,dont just stay there and expect that the same procedure will work

@Piotr but that doesn't mean that you ignore the outside and you are just paying the attention on your body?

@Piotr Thanks for the idea

@Piotr i do not have problems at being angry in meditation,but if i start an hour of meditation,after that hour i experience some kind of depression,and all day im not good at anything(if the environment is bad)

@Piotr you mean to do other types of meditations?

first,i want to say that i still am one of those people ,and the only meditation that really helped me is Strong determination sitting,if you want to get rid of those thoughts that generates powerful emotions you need to experience them once again,but this time you will NOT move ,you will just stay,maybe for one or two hours to watch the entire drama.While you are in that position,pay attention to any emotion

i'm really interested in this practices because i do only one thing:the non manipulative meditation(+strong determination sitting) ,what do you guys think about yoga,is it worth to try?

@Piotr what do you think about making the sounds : a- ,u-,m- ?