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IOIs in night game (and game in general) and their importance
IOIs in night game (and game in general) and their importanceMost of the time girls will not give you IOIs. You must learn to run game on a brick wall.
The biggest IOI is simply eye contact and her attention. You should be getting that occasionally after approaching.
If you're never getting it, it's because your vibe is off: you're full of fear, you aren't relaxed, you're stuck in your head, you aren't smiling, you aren't in a good mood, you aren't having fun, you aren't direct enough with your sexual intent, you are too meek.
As you approach, command her attention. Force her to give you here full attention or blow you out. Do not do half-assed, meek approaches. When you approach, approach with 100% commitment and face her directly, with full eye contact.
It's okay if she blows you out. What's not okay are meek approaches.
The only importance of IOIs is to immediately capitalize on them as soon as you notice one. If you see a girl giving you eye contact, immediately approach and rapidly escalate. But never wait or hope for IOIs. IOIs are like finding cash on the ground. As soon as you see it, you grab it. But you don't rely on this to make money.
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Dear Leo, the “small dick” joke DOESNT WORK!!
Dear Leo, the “small dick” joke DOESNT WORK!!I don't think an introvert can be in that state most of the time.
1) I completely turn off my mind. No thinking. No planning.
2) I consciously make myself very relaxed in my body and comfortable. Very present.
3) I force myself to approach lots of people and talk a lot.
4) Having fun friends around you helps A LOT. And then I talk shit with them.
5) Getting a few bad rejections helps build state by showing rejection doesn't matter.
6) I go to the dance floor and dance and enjoy the music.
7) Build momentum throughout the night by constantly approaching and talking.
8) DMT
It's much harder because you won't have enough interactions and there is no music, no friends, etc.
But during the day I find that state is much less important/needed. Just be chill and friendly and not anxious.
If you go out a lot for night game, you can easily carry some of that momentum/state over into day game from the previous night out. This is usually what I did.
Day game is actually a lot easier than night game because if the girl stops, you have her complete attention and you don't need to be some high-energy dancing monkey. You can just have a nice long calm conversation. You can't really have those kind of conversations in loud busy clubs. State is more important for loud, intimidating clubs where everyone but you is drinking and dancing with large groups of friends.
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Dear Leo, the “small dick” joke DOESNT WORK!!
Dear Leo, the “small dick” joke DOESNT WORK!!Any verbals work when said from the right place, in the right context. It's not meant to be a pickup line. You should not be approaching girls and telling them you got a small dick. That's just creepy as fuck.
You should only say it rarely, when it fits the situation and when it would be funny. Otherwise you will come off as trying too hard.
Be careful with sexual jokes. They require skill to pull off. If you do it wrong you will creep girls out and instantly blow yourself out. Use them very sparingly and with taste. Don't turn them into a routine.
For newbies my advice: don't talk about sexual stuff AT ALL. Stay classy.
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Life Purpose Fears
Life Purpose Fears1. Once you have a life purpose statement, this sacrifice will seem worth it. Also very few startups are like Elon Musk where you're sleeping in your office and working 20 hours a day. You can work 50 - 60 hours a week and still have time for family, some leisure / downtime and other stuff if you schedule it right. People waste sooooo much time in a day. I'm sure famous designers like Ralph Lauren, Christian Dior, Coco Chanel, etc had plenty of time to spend with their families and on yachts. Most of the sacrifice occurs in the first 1 - 5 years, after that ideally you've got employees and can automate most things. Of the things you've listed, I don't see how you would be too old to do any of them at 40 or even 50.
2. If your LP can become irrelevant in a lifetime then your vision isn't large enough. Make a bigger impact and leave a legacy.
3. Yes, it's hard work and requires getting out of your comfort zone. Maybe even creating something totally unique that's never been done before. That's the price you have to pay. That's why most people will never life an amazing and fulfilling life. Don't be another drone that settles for mediocrity and working toward someone else's dream. That's how you die with regret.
4. You're on the right track. Break it down into small steps like just learning to sew first, instead of looking at some huge unattainable end goal. The pieces will fall into place over time.
5. You might lose your job or the economy might tank either way. Working on your LP has no bearing on whether other bad things will happen in your life. Getting a Master's degree will just delay the risk, you could still just lose your job or have trouble finding a job after school.
6. It's very hard to fuck up so bad that you can't pivot out of it into something else. Just don't go into massive debt and it's pretty easy to just go pick up a part-time job somewhere instead at any point. If you're poor and miserable after a couple years, just change.
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Why do women like guys who are good at texting? Or do they care at all?
Why do women like guys who are good at texting? Or do they care at all?They don't care about your texting.
If a girl isn't attracted to you in the real world she will not respond to your clever texts. Text game is mostly BS sold to guys by coaches who want money.
If a girl is attracted to you she will tolerate very shitty text game. You'd have to say something awful to screw it up, like being sexually explicit or creepy.
The rules of good text game are simple:
Don't be sexually explicit or vulgar Don't insult or offend her Don't text too much or come off desperate or needy Don't be too gamey or try-hard Don't be too vague and ambiguous so she cannot misinterpret you Basically just be normal, chill, light-hearted, clear, and use texts to set up the date. Don't get too clever with it. That cleverness will backfire.
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Importance of loosing virginity?
Importance of loosing virginity?Mostly just get it over with so you aren't hung up on it. Nothing starts with perfection. Your first girl is not likely to be your ideal girl.
Also be ware of self-sabotage. When you have a chance to close the deal, close the deal rather than getting all in your head about it. Don't think too far ahead in such matters.
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I'm finally admitting that I suck at talking to women
I'm finally admitting that I suck at talking to womenLol, this isn't exactly a big secret. Basically all guys suck at talking with women unless they trained that skill.
You should approach even if you are not relaxed or "in state". Sure, you will blow up sets, but it doesn't matter because blowing up sets is what gets you to relax.
Never expect your first approach of the day to go smooth. The first few approaches are just warm ups. They almost always blow up. If you're approaching, you should be doing at least 10-20 approaches within a few hours. Once you blow the first 10, then you'll hit state and you will start acing the rest.
The key to learning game is to find a location where you can do 10-20 approaches within a few hours. Find an area with tons of girls so that you aren't worried about blowing sets up. Become an approach machine for a while and your skills will skyrocket.
I remember when I approached 750 girls in one month. That was a productive month! You'll be amazed at what opportunities materialize from 750 approaches. The most unlikeliest of things pan out with those numbers. If you approach 750 girls, one of them will just want to suck your dick for no reason at all, LOL. Most guys don't meet that many girls in their entire lifetime. You can do it in one month.
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Good style for looking attractive? (Pick-up)
Good style for looking attractive? (Pick-up)You need to approach your fashion and look holistically. It's not about any one type of thing, it's about the whole package which must suit your body type and personality too.
Best advice is to hire a professional image consultant and follow her recommendations to buy a whole new wardrobe. She needs to help you develop a style which you will then shop in alignment with from now on.
It's hard to develop a style on your own unless you got a knack for that sort of thing. Invest some money in a consultant. It will pay dividends for the rest of your life.
Style matters a lot. You can increase your attractiveness several fold just by figuring out your style. Women are very keen to notice if you got style or not. It's all part of your whole vibe that she feels upon first impression. If you are dressed in ratty stuff you will be losing girls.
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Chronic bloating issue and constipation ? I feel very depressed and lost all hope.
Chronic bloating issue and constipation ? I feel very depressed and lost all hope.Most doctors are idiots. Surprise! Welcome to life.
Stop expecting anyone to heal you but yourself. Take extreme ownership over your health.
Heal your SIBO yourself. You got a brain. Use it. Do the research, read all the books, find your own cure.
I linked you a resource with basically all the answers. But are you smart enough to use it?
It's time to stop playing games and get serious.
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Difference between awakening and turquoise?
Difference between awakening and turquoise?Except that's wrong.
The reality is that even if you set a very high standard for enlightenment, it will still be the case that you can have enlightened masters who subscribe to outdated, primitive, and false beliefs.
It's crucial to draw a line between enlightenment vs changing the contents of the mind. They are not equivalent. And if you ever equate them, you will be in for a rude awakening as you will be unable to explain why otherwise deeply enlightened people still end up believing and doing stupid shit.
This is the classic newbie mistake of over-idealizing enlightenment and gurus.
Enlightenment is NOT moral perfection. Nor is it a sophisticated understanding of worldly affairs. Nor is it a guarantee against errors in knowledge.
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Night out report
Night out report@ravlondon Yeah, I've seen that clip. That's the right attitude. He's just being too creepy and no charm.
But yeah, you gotta be an approach machine. High volume. You fish using a net, not a single hook.
You gotta be persistent like he is, and you gotta have a light-hearted attitude. Notice how he doesn't judge himself or even register rejection. A rejection is literally nothing. He's just having fun and taking it easy. That is absolutely essential. You cannot take this shit seriously. You basically must place zero investment in the girl until she's ready to sleep with you.
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How to message people to learn from them?
How to message people to learn from them?Offer value first before trying to take. Lots of people try to get advice or help from successful people. The more successful you are, the more moochers will try and take from you. Really popular people are getting hundreds of requests a day. Set yourself apart from the unwashed masses by actually offering them something. Most people who reach out for mentors aren't serious, they're wasting their own time and the other person's.
If they're local, offer to take them out for lunch and pay for it to pick their brains. Work for them for free if you have to.
Successful people are busy, don't waste their time. 30 minutes every 6 months is all you need. If you set limits it'll be more successful then "can I email you whenever I have a question". Have a specific goal in mind going into the conversation, not just "tell me everything about X". Learn everything you can on your own before talking to them. You should only be asking them very nuanced questions that you couldnt find through researching on your own. Every time you meet with them, show them you've actually implemented their advice from the last time you spoke.
If they have a website, that's the best way to contact them.
Lots of world class people have already done dozens of interviews each in most areas of mastery that you can get on YouTube for free. Really question if you need to learn from someone 1 on 1 or if the information is already out there.
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Being "Too Nice" in Dating
Being "Too Nice" in DatingGirls are super flakey by their nature. There is no official relationship until there's been sex multiple times and she wants to get serious. Until then it's first come first serve. Don't sit around waiting for her. Go on with your life as usual.
Do not act like you're exclusive with a girl while there hasn't even been sex yet. This is needy behavior. She should sense some threat that if she doesn't lock you down you will have plenty of options with other girls. Set up your attitude and lifestyle such that she feels that you are the type of guy who has plenty of options. That doesn't necessarily mean you will use all those options, but she should feel lucky that you choose her out of all your other options.
The reality is that high value men have lots of options and girls know it. Losers have no options and girls know that too.
If she wants to lock you down, make her work a bit to do it, so that she can appreciate what she's getting.
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Being "Too Nice" in Dating
Being "Too Nice" in Dating@Jordan A You can be a strong leader and don't put women on a pedestal without actually treating them bad or disrespecting them.
You need to grow some balls and act more cocky around women. But you will not be abusing them. Make that distinction.
Basically the attitude you want to adopt when flirting with women is that you are the king/boss. But you are a benevolent king.
Challenge the woman without insulting her. And never bend over backwards for her.
Caring for women is not a problem, but you must save that until after she gets attracted to you.
You can calibrate this by being 10-20% more of an asshole. Of course you don't want to be 100% of an asshole -- which would actually hurt your results. But 10-20% more should be roughly the sweet-spot.
An easy way to implement this is to simply be more authentic about your negative assessments and emotions about her. For example, be brutally honest when you don't like something about her. You could tell her, "I don't like your dress." There probably already are plenty of things you don't like about her, but you don't say them because you are being too nice. Stop doing that. Be more authentic with your negative feelings. Stop trying to only be positive with her. Then you will shed your nice guy image.
If you really want to get good at this, you can ask yourself this question while you are flirting with her, "What doesn't please me about her?"
Then you might tell her something like, "Your glasses are goofy."
Then she will try to please you to re-gain your validation.
You have to be careful not to take this too far because it is possible to insult her and blow yourself out. For example, NEVER say negative things about her weight. Unless she is skinny like a toothpick, this will instantly blow you out. You need to find ways of expressing disapproval without being overly mean or insulting.
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Being a nice guy versus being an arrogant dickhead
Being a nice guy versus being an arrogant dickheadStop asking women for advice on how to game them.
That's your mistake.
When it comes to deciding who she's gonna sleep with, her biological instincts will take over and she will not sleep with a nice guy. She wants to sleep with an alpha guy.
Of course! Women like dick. They don't need a man with a pussy because they already got one.
Attraction is very counter-intuitive.
With that said, you can be strong and cocky without being mean or hurtful. That's the balance you should aim for: strong, assertive, cocky, playful, but also polite, respectful, and grounded in Love.
You want to be a lovable jerk, not an abusive asshole.
And this goes beyond women. In general, all people, men and women alike, respect strength, confidence, authority, leadership, and assertiveness. These are the qualities of a leader. And women want to sleep with leaders. You can't lead people effectively by being too nice and meek.
Be a leader without being abusive or cruel. Temper yourself with Love.
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Owen Cook predictions - Can we trust this guy or not?
Owen Cook predictions - Can we trust this guy or not?I have talked about this in my How To Get Laid series.
Ideally you start with the player frame and then switch to the boyfriend frame once she's slept with you a few times and is seriously invested into you.
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Owen Cook predictions - Can we trust this guy or not?
Owen Cook predictions - Can we trust this guy or not?Owen actually coined that term. It's a guy who basically has zero social skills and zero experience talking to girls and very introverted. The opposite of a natural.
Game comes easily to some guys because it aligned with their natural personality. Game comes really hard for others. Game for me is like 180 degress against my strengths and personality. By all rights I should be living in a cave, not pulling models from the craziest nightclubs in the world.
It's like you're asking if Albert Einstien had great game.
I had to push myself super hard to do precisely what I was worst at in the world and what I hated doing most. Learning game was one of the hardest things I've done in my life.
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How to let go of ex gf
How to let go of ex gfNo.
It must be done with skill. It's not a function of some number. It's a function of developing skill.
Stop expecting some kind of guarantees for mediocrity.
Not so. Do not underestimate the power that slut-shaming has over girls. It's baked into her mind even if no one ever calls her a slut.
Even in Vegas, even party girls, even slutty girls, will not sleep with you if they catch of whiff that she will be perceived as slutty.
The power this holds over girls is insane. This is why girls will sleep with you one night, and then pretend they don't even know you the next. It's like they erase you from their minds.
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SEO Resources.
SEO Resources.+1 I built my entire career around this course. Maybe not for OP for the reasons I've outlined above. But if you want to make a niche website this is the best resource online.
Check out their Youtube channel and get a feel for it. I dont know how I feel about the future direction now that Jim has left and it's just Ricky. But there is enough existing content to make it worth it. You get probably the best course on making a successful blog available today. Plus an equally in depth full course on making a Youtube channel. And about a dozen smaller courses.
It's costly but I've continued to pay the $250/year for 3+ years just to keep access to the community. It's like this forum's life purpose section expanded out to it's own full forum, and because it's behind a paywall the quality is very high, and full of actual business owners. I've more than earned my money back by networking and working with other P24 members (10s of thousands of dollars.)
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AMAZING speech by Owen Cook (RSD)
AMAZING speech by Owen Cook (RSD)You aren't approaching enough and aren't letting go enough.
At least one night in your life go be a party animal. Dance until you are sweaty and out of breath. Be silly and stupid. Then watch how girls get drawn to you like a magnet.
Do it sober. But by the middle of the night will become naturally intoxicated on fun. You will become fearless. You will stop giving a fuck about what anyone thinks of you.
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AMAZING speech by Owen Cook (RSD)
AMAZING speech by Owen Cook (RSD)As with many other domains, school left you totally unperpared to handle the realities of dating and sex.
School does not teach those realities at all.
Dating and sexuality is highly context sensitive and implicit. It is also so tied in with survival that it must be tightly regulated by the powerful because they want to fuck the best people themselves. So they will tell you one thing but then actually do the opposite themselves in their own private sex lives.
Harsh truths about sex are like harsh truths about spirituality.
Flirting, playful touching, and being a good salesmen are not against the law. It's not even taboo. It happens in nightclubs and bars everywhere in the world and is generally considered acceptable. But talking openly about it is often unacceptable, especially in the MeToo era.
Do some guys take the flirting and touching overboard into rapey territory? Sure! Some do. But you can also do it in a decent manner. Go flirt with some girls. No problem. Never force yourself on her if she isn't smiling while you do it. Her facial experssion tells you everything. If she's laughing and smiling and looking deep in your eyes, you can basically rip off her panties and do whatever you want. But as soon as her smile turns into a frown, that's when you stop. The key is to ATTRACT and CHARM her. This is very different than force.
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Leading
LeadingThis is why you build state by approaching a lot.
First 10 approaches of the night are just a warm up to build your state. You must discipline yourself to approach 20-30 sets a night. No excuses. Your state and mood will build until you're on fire. The key is to approach even when you don't feel like it. Just approach and let sets blow up in your face. And then approach some more. And don't be picky about who you approach.
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Text game
Text gameWell, it does feel like you're trying a bit to hard to game her.
The paradox of game is that your game has to feel non-gamey. Girls are very sensitive to fake, gamey tactics. So you should work on trying to be more natural and normal rather than so edgy and clever. Too much cleverness gets you in trouble.
Think about it this way: Would a high value guy like Brad Pitt be investing a bunch of energy trying to game a girl with a barrage of really clever lines? No.
If you're going to tease a girl or say something edgy, make it rare. Like a bit of spice added to a dish. The problem here is that you opened well but then kept pushing the teasing and edgy stuff too far to the point where it makes you just seem like a weirdo.
In general, complimenting really hot girls on their physical appearance is a very bad idea because it makes you like very other desperate horny guy. With a girl like that you need to treat her very normally, like a normal human, and try to find things about her to compliment which are not her physical appearance. This will make you stand out.
Your opener was great because it was unique and different. She responded well. At that point you should have moved into building some genuine human connection rather than trying to pummel her with clever gamey lines. Great game is all about exquisite balance. Don't give two compliments when one already did the trick. Don't use two openers when your first one worked. Don't try to build more attraction when she's already attracted. And try to be genuine. She's not going to sleep with you unless you develop rapport with her and come off as a normal human.
Things that make for bad game:
Being weird & socially uncalibrated Being creepy Being desperate/needy Being angry/upset Being gamey Being try-hard Being supplicating Bragging Over-compensating Being fake Being mean/cruel Being sexual/vulgar Complimenting hot girls on their hotness
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How to start learning about business, finance and money in general?
How to start learning about business, finance and money in general?I don't know if learning about business in general will be very useful. It's like if you wanted to learn to sing, dance, and act in general. It's a bunch of different disciplines that you really need to study on their own.
Start off just asking questions and then watching Youtube videos to learn the answers. What is money, what is the history of money, what does fiat currency mean, how is money created, what is fractional reserve banking, what is the Federal Reserve.
To start making money or starting a business you can look up stuff like best job for teenagers, how to make money as a teenager, investing for beginners, how to buy stocks, how to make money on youtube (or whatever you're interested in), how to write a book, etc.
As you look up this stuff you'll probably find a few channels that you like which keep coming up over and over. That's probably a good sign to subscribe to them and watch all of their videos if you're finding them useful and educational.
Be aware that in the finance and self-help space there are lots of scammers. And it's also possible for people to provide lots of helpful information but still be scammers or trying to take advantage of you.
If you just want general exposure to business stuff, put on any business TV news channel (they are the ones with the stock tickers running across the bottom 24/7), or watch Dave Ramsey on Youtube.
Go to the website for your local community college, look at their business course and it should have a list of all the classes you have to take to graduate. Write those down and start researching each of those topics on your own. Math, writing, how to use microsoft office, human resources, marketing, accounting, economics, entrepreneurship, business law, operations management. Then once you study those, find one you like the most and really master it.
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I get physically sick after every time a girl flakes
I get physically sick after every time a girl flakesGirls are super flakey in general before sex. Expect zero respect for your time or your needs.
Solution is to just make very low investment and keep talking to many girls at once.
Don't do dumb things like courting a girl for months. You have to set standards and don't let them waste your time.
If you suggest a date and she isn't eager for it, next. Do not try to win her over. Girls who are willing to sleep with you don't need to be won over. They will readily agree to a date without manipulation.
It's a big mistake to try to work hard to get a girl. Instead invest that energy into talking to lots of new girls. It's a huge numbers game, not a manipulation game. Less manipulation, more numbers. Get 5 phone numbers per night and you will stop caring if 80% flake.