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@StarStruck How does that work? Does it mean that there is suffering for something to be grasped or is the analogy breaking down? But Leo said a few times before that this is worth contemplating. Can consciousness come to know itself through painful experiences just like breaking the bones of the hand to grab itself?

@kray What do you mean? Are you correcting me, simplifying what I said, or saying something about what I said for the sake of saying what God is?

There is something wrong with what @Leo Gura said but is still right in some way. I acknoledge that analogies are not perfect but in his snowman analogy, the snowman melting turns it back into nothing and back into indescriminate Oneness but the snowman should have turned into a puddle of water instead. Anyways, an object can be zoomed in on forever and therefore absolute nothingess is infinitely at rock bottom. This is why no object can reach this state of emptiness even when it turns to dust and that the dust itself would break down into particles. However, infinite intelligence can still work efficiently from the top down because created the structure of objects are uneccessary to God but looking at existence from the bottom up allows you to see nothingness in everything and that everything includes nothingness in everything; that there is a full nothing and that reality and existence are absolutes and the ultimate miracle ever. If you count nothingness as non-existence, then nothingness does not exist because non-existence does not exist because it is the negation of existence but the non-existence of the non-existence means that non-existence exists. Could this mean that everything is dreamed up by consciousness because of the existence of non-existence and the illusory nature of existence? If there is only existence, then non-existence must exist too paradoxically. The only way for something to cease to exist completely is if God were to uncreate it because that is how it was brought forth in the first place and therefore matter is always conserved scientifically.

@Spiritual Warrior Do you think that HealthygamerGG is at stage yellow?

@BlueOak I'll have to think about it.

@lostingenosmazeNot really.

@Yimpa Correct!

@Gabith That seems very spiritual in a way.

@BlueOak There are probably several reasons since we learn lessons throughout our lives.

I didn't think of this as suicidal, but as a way to transcend the fear of death and how to look forward to the afterlife when death comes (even if death is imaginary).

This is what it's like to easily get lost in the mind time and time again. To jailbreak the mind and to untangle it would be awakening.

Assuming that someone is willing to listen, how do you explain to someone why you started actualized.org and convince that it's worth looking into while minimizing backlash from religion, dogma, assumptions, etc? How would you know if you are ready from the fallback if there are authority figures in your life? What would you say is the most convincing reason to purchase the booklist if it is less appealing than the life purpose course to am outsider? How do you make a topic of a book more appealing to an outsider and clear up misconceptions for why that person might think of it as evil or hocus pocus?

@Razard86 Ironically, I was already recently talking to you about what I think is the bigggest test of my progress in spirituality.

@Razard86 What level of development is required to pursue spirituality? Are some people not meant to awaken? If the answer is yes, why not and what determines that? What if I want to awaken, could it still be possible that I'm not meant to? Your statement about governments and the construction of society seems to contradict with people from society hating you for life. Why would that hatred last forever? Wouldn't that make them worse off than I am? I actually don't want to bring anyone into spirituality, I just want to prepare myself for why I'm into this and I need your help how to do it because of the serious consequences. Some people like my parents might even want my account for the forum to get deleted if that is possible and if they find out which means that I need to stand up for myself which is why I asked all of those questions at the beginning. Maybe I could then go on workshops and medication retreats if I wanted to which is a reason to take action since there is no point in worrying about something I can't control. Although I didn't add my full realnane, I regret the name I created on the forum because it's still recognizable. Also, how do I know that I'm not brainwashed into going to these places? My best defense if someone personal like my parents were to read this would be to fulfill the requirements to deepen my state of consciousness which sounds very new age and far-fetched. Do people even know that they are brainwashed or self-deceived? How do I introspect on this issue? If it is through feeling like Leo said, how do I know that it isn't delusional? I think that the exception would be when it comes to my desires but it's circular because it could come from being brainwashed. Leo posted a video on why actualized.org is not a cult but I don't think anyone I know would have the patience to listen to all of that. They will probably just spin more narratives anyways.

@Basman What does it take to get banned on the forum and what advice would you give for my close friend in this situation but is now less of my friend for doing this? Just curious if this would be enough for someone to get banned.

@OBElerWell, I know that they would because of how extraordinary they are. You should know what they are by now and I won't be getting into that here. I have a younger friend of mine who doesn't want to show his parents the website that has the life purpose because of the blog that disagrees with their religious views on God, their political views, etc. He showed me a-work-around and wants to be listened to by me because he doesn't feel that way from anyone else and he said that he had to download a torrent file of the life purpose course because of his concern. He also stole his parents credit card to buy the booklist because he thought that the topics would go against his parent's beliefs. He was thinking about joining the forum because of these issues but I have to ask you this important question: Would this friend of mine be banned for doing these things if he were to be on the forum and if so, should I tell him that he shouldn't join the forum? I'll leave as anonymous and he can always make up a name on the forum anyways. I find these problems very relatable to me that relates to your question except I didn't do the things he did. Although what he did was illegal, I don't really think it's his fault, something has to be done. Was it actually wrong for him to do these things? I found out about stealing his parents credit card because he was talking buying Leo's future course on Awakening and telling me what Leo would say because he knew that I was open to it which caused him to get in trouble for what he did because his parents read his text messages. I told him that I cannot get a job in Russia without a college degree and that I rely on my parents moneyhttps://poe.com/s/uYMqxbVs6v0GFL8S81TV. They said that it's a VISA situation that they cannot control otherwise I wouldn't have to leave the country every six months. What advice would you give him?

Here is a Youtube video that shows the first animation from 1833: Google however, says that the first animation was created in 1892 called Emile Reynaud's Pauvre Pierrot but it's probably a mistatke because of the viideo above but it wasen't until 1987 that thhe first GIF was introduced. This was the first ever GIF (even though it's not in GIF format):

@something_elseI agree with you there and also you cannot see the discussions that are going on from the homescreen and the scaling is off on Android TV. I was just testing websites on there in general and it could just be the browser that sucks.

@JuliusCaesar I mean that Leo wanted to do this by asking about spiral dynamics for example because it is something he is an expert on and was testing the response of ChatGPT.

Hello everyone, I was aware of Leo's ultimate common place book but it feels like my notes are not being as helpful as they could be. I might have talked about this a long time ago but I've noticed that I cannot find any notes on entire multipart series of actualized.org content. I didn't really know how to convince my conservative parents (not politically speaking) about the ultimate common place book so it started with sticky notes digitally on the computer whiile taking notes on the computer, then I moved to the notetaking app on my phone, and then Google Docs with my original Google account and then Google Docs on my recovery one because of storage issues. I also didn't take notes at the time before taking any notes when I was watching actualized.org since I was occupied with other things because I wasn't serious enough a long time ago (it's impossible for you to lose your save data on Google Docs). The reason I'm mentioning this is because the notes I'm taking now doesn't seem to help me connect the dots as passionately as Leo says. There just lists or what I think is important from Leo so I don't even know if I should relisten to all of the videos I didn't take notes on. I should also feel comfortable for people to read the same notes if it were to be in a notebook if that were to help. At what point relatvely speaking can I say that I have consumed enough content including books to connect the dots? Do you believe that serendipity will happen if I'm ready for something like attending workshops and meditation retreats? I'm going to take online college so I won't be travelling anywhere except for a VISA trip. I would have to finish my college first regardless if it was online or not.

@Leo GuraBut you were still curious to find something to break ChatGPT right? Were you serious? I guess you can say that ChatGPT is better at giving long answers and Google is better at making shorter ones.

@Leo GuraIt would also damage the magetic field if an explosion were to go off into space creating vulnerability to solar winds.

Last night, I was trying to get some sleep and suddenly, my Mom called me at about 11:30 in the night just to see if I spilled something over a mess in the fridge that I still never saw that wasn't even me so I don't even know what happened. She didn't want me to do anything about it, she just wanted to be sure. She apparently didn't know that I was sleeping just because she herself stays up longer which seems unreasonale to assume from someone else even if she thinks she knows me. It's not like I have a consistent bedtime routine which is what I'm trying to work on so it's unreasonable for her to just assume. Also, my Mom thinks that her interruptions are so important when they are not. It's as if she is desperate to get my attention, could it just be who is too reserved? Why then does it seem to be other people that I try to hard to participate in conversations and why are they resistent to me? What do they think about me behiind my back and why? I care more about not knowing than what people think because I just want to change myself to be more likeable without people seeming fake to me and I even treat them nicely. If you suggest that I stop doing so or confront them on the situation, I will also be unlikable for being too mean and people will gaslight this kind of confrontation because of my autism regardless if if it's intentional or not. Anyways, back to my my Mom. She has trauma of getting yelled at but I'm sick and tired of never being allowed to get angry with anyone but she never even bothers to see a therepist and I can see that it makes her very immature and gets out of hand. If my Dad is allow to have a bad attitude with her Mom, why can't I if I am an adult? Telling her nicely doesn't work, she doesn't change her ways because this isn't the first time that this happened and I don't want this to happen ever again. If I don't suppress my anger or even if I speak in the slightest annoyed tone, my Mom will start throwing a temper tantrum asking what is wrong with me. My Mom also acts nicely in front of other people even if she doesn't like what I say or do instead of being honest about it in public and expects me to give the same treatment to her all the time. There was this other time where I was on a call with my Russian teacher and my tone was slightly off, and my Mom threw a temper tantrum threatening me to take away my smartphone. She was embarrased when she forgot to mute the call but she might have gotten defensive because the person on the other end was her boyfriend. She never seems to apoligize about these things, nor does she want to listen to these things. She would either deny that these mistakes ever happened or say how I am wrong somehow. There was also a post about my Mom throwing a big fit about some food situation and there was a book recommendation about dealing with immature parents, what was the book called agiain? I forgot the name of the conversation. I think I type some problem abut my Mom and maybe I can find it. Keep in mind that my Dad is not around to help me because he is divorced. I have a document below that I created about the situation last night which is why it comes as a file instead of just bullet points. I don't really think it's going to affect my attachment limit too much and why is there an attachment limit anyways? I might not even have my student transcript yet but I'll check it later even though it's taking longer than usual while I have no control over what's going on except for checking my email and emailing the admissions team when approprite. I also have why I cannot get a job in Russia since I don't even have a college degree. This is what my Mom says but I got quick relevant results during my conversation with ChatGPT instead of going from website to website since ChatGPT works like a conversation. I only use if I absolutely cannot find relevant information because it's an AI language model. https://poe.com/s/uYMqxbVs6v0GFL8S81TV Also, my parents don't have much control over my VISA situation, otherwise I wouldn't have to leave the country every 6 months which means that I'm stuck living with my Mom. I could just go to college in the US but I forgot why I'm even taking college online. It's probably just because my major allows me to and that it's more convient but I need to learn how to be more in control of my life and actually have a plan. Problems With Mom to Resolve.txt Why It's Hard to Get a Job In Russia.txt

Thank you.