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Expecting to understand everything in philosophy is probably the wrong approach. ? I studied philosophy for 3 semester now and only got a very short look into these two. Hopefully I can avoid Heidegger altogether although it would also feel powerful if I managed to make sense of him.

Then taking a hero dose is a pretty dumb idea imo especially with lsd because it lasts so long. How many trips have you done in general? Have you worked with smaller doses to specifically target your mental issues? Also idk if mdma can help you with every bad trip. I just heard it could help but I never tried it and I dont want to be responisble if you end up with a bad trip. I get your frustration. I mean I am in a similar situation to yours but imagine you get a traumatizing bad trip and never do psychedelics again. This process cant be rushed.

Dont understand me wrong these little clips can be a great inspiration themself or a Motivation to dive deeper into philosophy but they give the illusion that the whole philosophy of a philospoher can be summarized and understood like that. You dont really get a sense of what a philosopher is really about until you read the original texts.

@StarStruck For how long have you been stuck ?

@Someone here Did you ever go to therapy ? Sometimes when we are hurt and that hurt is surpressed very very deeply and we have no chance of accessing it it feels so intangible and so we think we can only find a "cosmic solution“ or something that would explain and make sense of that suffering that we can’t solve. But maybe it’s a lot more tangible then you think. I got bullied a lot and went with the same approach where I wanted to find a solution "out there“. The last five years made me a lot more of a "real“ person. I let go of a lot of petty bullshit, lots of unnessercary society programmed sources of suffering and I know so much more about what is important right now. So in a sense I am really grateful for that but it didn’t clear me from all the hurtful experiences I made. Psychedelics helped me to get in touch more with my feelings and I am also starting therapy soon. That’s just my take on it, do with it what you want.

@ShardMare Yeah you can eat many veggies and most fruits raw. You could also consider buying an instant pot. Just put a bunch of healthy shit in there like legumes, whole grains, frozen veggies, .. and then you just have to press a button and it does the job for you. Haha that’s how I solved it I hate cooking as well.

I can think of two potential problems: 1) A variety of foods gives you much higher chances that you hit all of your nutrients because most single foods don’t have the whole spectrum. Even a single vitamin that is missing could mess you up. 2) Some foods, especially plant foods have anti nutrients. These are generally healthy to consume in small amounts but if you hammer in the same food every day you would consume exactly the same anti nutrient every day which would harm your body. Why would you want to eat the same thing anyway ? lol what’s wrong with peanut butter? It’s just mashed peanuts.

Depends on how you look at it I guess. From a scientific point of view I would say the present is a product of the past, although I am not sure what your quantum physics says about that. From a spiritual point of view this questions doesn’t really make sense if you see the past as something real because it isn’t. But you could say "the past“ is a product of the present because everything is present.

The theory of quantum physics. Look I don’t know shit about quantum physics but it’s theory and not direct experience. I didn’t make a scientific claim, I just said what’s in your direct experience.

It’s the spiritual approach Maybe at some point I will be awake enough to see them as illusions when I go about my day but yes right now I hold them as truth.

The past and future exists as a concept in the present. The Eiffel Tower exists as a concept in your mind. Even the chair you are sitting on only exists as a concept in your mind. You only have shapes, feelings (like hardness) and color as a direct experience. Nothing in your direct experience suggests that you are sitting on a chair.

If you don’t sozialize you will only live in your own little bubble and you can easily delude yourself in there because your thoughts aren’t confronted with anyone. Society as a whole is very low consciousness yes but their common sense still filters out extremely unhealthy behaviour. I think diet is a good analogy to that. The western diet is pretty garbage yes but there is at least some variety and you won’t find things in there that will directly kill you because that woudnt have survived in society. If you think that you are so much smarter and do your own diet that is completely different you don’t have societies common sense on your back which is almost a guarantee that the diet would at least not kill you. So if we transfer that analogy to our way of thinking you could say that we should always be able to explain our high consciousness thoughts to people in society, if we can’t do that then we might have deluded ourself.

@Razard86 You are right.

(The goal is to realize immortality) I contemplated death before. Normally we (most of society) are so afraid of death that we don’t dare to question what death is really directly. So we can only ask that question kind of half aware because asking it fully aware would be too painful. But that’s what I did on magic truffles a while back. Asking directly what death is in this hyper aware state. I discovered that first the fear goes away and second that I have a whole category of ideas of what death is. What death really is for me is something like "cold, cave, metal music, loneliness, darkness, …“ and all kinds of other stuff it’s ridiculous. But I didn’t break through to any awakening. Should I simply continue asking myself what death is until I break through to immortality or is this the wrong approach?

That would be one hell of a jump.

Hmm yeah I think what I tried to illustrate is that we dont know we never know the specific happening. That doesnt disprove that cause and effect exists though. I have another thought. I feel like cause and effect causations go in circles. For example the water circle. Rain causes feets which causes seas, which causes the potential for evaporation, which causes clouds, which cause rain. So what is the cause for rain? Its rain itself at some point. Of course this is a crude abstraction and I would need to implement a million other things but it should just illustrate that point. So you could say that the universe is one happening and you can take every point in the universe which will cause every other thing and in the end itself which means that no specific point is special. But that still doenst really disprove cause and causation. ? @axiom made a good point though.

Cause and effect is conceptual. So it’s second order truth. For example there is nothing in your direct experience that suggests that when you punch a wall and hurt your hand that it is the contact with the wall that caused the damage to your hand. That might sound insane but really think about it. The hand could have just hurt itself when right before it came into contact with the wall and your feeling that the wall hurt you could have just been an imagination because you think that when you hit the wall it would hurt and therefore it does hurt but not because the wall did it but because in a certain sense you did it to yourself with your imagination. Hmm maybe that’s a bad example, can’t think of anything better right now.

I think that is even better if you want to take a big dose. You are super recovered. Have you ever taken a dose that is close to something like this? 500ug sounds like so much but there are many people who take crazy high doses of lsd but I will probably never be one of them. Maybe you could do the trip but have mdma at hand if it turns into a bad trip ? Although I am not sure if that works guaranteed.

Of course some girls can overdo it with their arrogance but you should have pity for them because they aren’t happy. "You can’t hit a nail in empty space“. Somehow this really triggers you. If it were just "an objective discovery“ you wouldn’t be angry about it. Somehow you are involved in that which triggers your feelings towards beautiful women.

Yes women who identify with their beauty in younger years will suffer immensely for it when they age. I wouldn’t want to be in their position. They can seem kind of arrogant but it’s just their survival mechanism. They have so many options that they have to filter it’s nothing personal. Imagine you were a popular film star and you could get pretty much any girl, would you give all the less attractive girls the same love and attention? They might think then that they have a chance to be your gf and then you have to avoid all kinds of cringe. Although I am not a popular film star I stopped giving girls I wasn’t into lovely dovely energy because they misunderstood. If you want attention from beautiful girls you can increase your value. Girls are way more limited in that.

I had mixed feelings before that trip. I had like a 10 second awakening the last trip and that shocked me to the core but that was it. But it was probably more then all of the previous trips. So I had to process that probably. But also I kinda felt ready and a part of me really wanted to rush it. Should have been more sensitive to my inner voice.

Fantastic!! Leo the way you frame some things it sounds like these insights are only decently accessed on the highest possible way and below that it’s just shallow. Although that could very well be just me but I don’t have really any mystical experience as a comparison so I look for authority figures and take their word for it. It’s super understandable that you want to get people to the highest awakening possible but if you constantly tell them how radical that is and how much their mind will have to suffer to access it they maybe won’t be motivated to start at all. How can they if they never got a taste on what they could get from it. Again, that’s my way of thinking it could very well be different for other people. I want to reach the highest levels of awakening of course but I would be so fucking happy with some small awakenings to start with.

Hard to describe. Maybe like I got intoxicated, pushed down, my brain cells are etching away. Something like that. That wasn’t really possible anymore. My focus was gone too much. I took 225ug actually but it’s worth 100ug because I did it two days prior. That isn’t a super small dose for me. Ooh I wasn’t aware of that. I just thought you have to take a higher dose to compensate for the reduced effectiveness but not that it changes your trip experience if you do it in short time intervals.

@Leo Gura Yeah I wanted to contemplate that on truffles or lsd. You speak about degrees of awakening. Can you realize immortality on a lesser degree? Because the other member that commented here seemed to have an insight into immortality although it’s unlikely that they all had a full awakening although I don’t want to exclude that possibility. Not sure if I can access a full awakening on my small-mid doses of lsd or truffles right now but death and love are the facets I want to access the most.

@Loba ????