Jannes

I wanted to say that the hunter gatherer stereotypical roles play a large part in informing other roles that came on top of that, grounded them in a sense which is why they are important to the ego and which is why the conversation is so charged. I dont know where you are coming from with people viewing women as an object back then.

I think its deeply connected to our identity/ ego and our place in the world/ justifiction for our role in society.

Ah okay, still somehow this is the point where it ended..

The thread is quite a warzone lol. Remember we lost Eliott in it, now Emerald says she is on the brink.. I also rarely loose my cool on the forum from what I remember but with this thread I lost it.. And the topic isnt even that complicated but sooo emotionally charged.

I remember that I made huge progress in socializing when I had my first f+. Or possibly every girl I vibe with. The lat one was a terrible experience. Dating/ Getting a gf is really an important new step for me.

Object design idea, a couch made out of dicks but the top all aligned in a way that you can lay on them like with table tennis outer pimples. I am sure someone would buy it. My mind is getting really unhinged wow.

I would be interested to know what the risks are from doing it once. I like to try many things once to collect the experience and perspective but I wonder if that is already kind of risky.

What I find interesting is that those who think of themselves as though and stoic are so impressionable emotionally. Well maybe there is no mistake.

Self aware Trump voters would be like: Its so stupid, but it feels so good!

Oh men, I was relaxing the whole week because I was sick but its not super easy to get my system working again. Got quite a few things to do.

Then I dont understand your comment without elaboration. How do you put masculinity and not repressing emotions together?

But thats simply because physical strength matters much more much if you have only primitive tools and so naturally men will take on physically demanding tasks and will built a personality that fits this role. But the root is simply muscle, nothing more. Thats an is-ought fallacy. Just because it is/ was a certain way doenst mean it was good/ should remain that way/ or doesnt have equally good or better alternatives.

So is that where you would draw the line between toxic and healthy masculinity?

I was led to belief that masculinity sort of IS repression of emotions. You have got a challenge, lets say a dangerous one, you feel all sorts of ways about it, for example scared. That feeling of being scared would lead you to run away. However lets say running away would endanger people you love. So you push that feeling of being scared away, create a sort of fearless alter ego to rise up to the challenge and handle it like a men. And that sort of dynamic not just in this particular situation but chronically to face lifes challenges. NO?

Interesting perspective which I havent considered yet. The warmongering of NATO is something I am sceptical about though. What war mongering? NATO is defensive alliance against russia. First and second world war were before NATO and well both european countries started and solved the conflict largely internally (+ russia, USA and Japan in WW2) although I am sure other countries around the globe felt the effect. The US involves itself in stupid wars sometimes and european countries sometimes support that. Thats problematic for sure.

Isnt this getting old when you learn that homophobia is dumb. Like when I see this, I remember that I used to find this funny as a teen, but it was also kind of homophobic and immature. .. The thread starts to smell like heteronormative dick

What are you smoking

Well no, probably not, but a bit of chest is managable. Not all men are into giant chests, I dont really mind for example, I am more of an ass guy. But that a sizeable proportion of men are attracted to them doesnt mean they all head it or that its evolutionarily wanted. Men were attracted to absurd curves back in the day as well. And btw. the men also have to keep their dick in check without underwear.

The people in these tribes are often much skinnier because they are very active and dont have abundance of food. So the women there also have smaller breasts on average.

What a ragebait

Yes yes yes, but there is a specific form of hunting that boils down to running an animal down to exhaustion where it is literally laying there paralyzed and unable to move. Of course searching for traces is included in that. Have I said that? Who are you disagreeing with? Well for one birthing and raising kids is no less important than providing. That would be a weird bias to have. And second, strictly for the providing part, I am sure women on top of that played their part as well. Most calories came from harvesting for example. But in hunting specifically men will have a light to a big edge for the reasons I layed out and so likely hunted more. (not necessary exclusively)

Well for large prey this is definitely the number one strategy for some tribes. Humans are exceptional endurance runners because we move on two limbs which is energy saving and can sweat to cool down. But I mean even in this specific context where endurance is the most important factor, its still not the only thing to consider. But yeah for everything other then endurance hunting, strength becomes much more important. But maybe you also just need as many people as possible in some situations. Yeah I think a lot of nuance is missing.

But hunting a prey down isnt only about endurance running right? I mean thats the most important aspect of course but other things count as well. For the running itself, you may have to chase a little faster or slower sometimes, its probably not like you can settle on one speed. (where women are potentially best at) Along the chase you might encounter other predators you need to defend against. Or maybe your prey becomes agressive so you gotta fight. When going for the kill in the end, how dangerous is that still? If the animal still has a bit of fight in it, being fast and effective is important. Being a little robust when things get out of hand as well.

Are you serious? ( It was a light joke. As a reason for murder you would expect something really big and disturbing, instead something so mundane as a reason for muder is so unreasonable and bizzare that it sounds funny) That could help you along your journey of socializing.

What if the 100 kids couldnt survive on their own if they werent thought and protected by their father? Lets say its black and white and the men is a survival machine and the women is there to raise kids, then only the dad could really teach their kids any surviving skills.