Jannes

Its raining. Maybe a blessing in disguise .. LESS PEOPLE

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RV feels pretty hard, maybe because of that. Whenever I have something on my mind it makes spiritual practice very hard to impossible.

Going to the social spot will be though today. Chances arent low someone will confront me. But I need to fight for my spot there.

I am fascinated by the ways people can finesse themselves out of a really bad position. I want to find the common patterns accross different activities from sport, fighting, debating, economy, dating, whatever .. so post freely if you have examples.

@Yimpa Nice to have you back! I hope you sorted some of that stuff out in your time off. ----- Lets continue to chat on PM or another thread if you like.

@Yimpa You are back! You hop on and off ...

I have got a bunch of anxiety, WOW

I am MUCH more nervous going out today then usual. I think it has to do with not having a university partner I am constantly in touch with.

If I created a super advanced machine which would rule over a natural ecosystem, lets say I created a super AI on earth which should rule over all organic beings and would leave the planet, I think at some point organic beings will always win over machines if machines dont get new input because organic beings can always adapt in unforseeable natural ways.

Yes. But can a clear line be made? Even if I created the mouse trap and then leave it, the intelligence continues to work on its own. Where does a human begin and end? A part of human is his making.

And yet "infinitely less complex" things can beat infinitely more complex things.

Thats not what I am asking. The materials of the clockwork dont matter. Of course if a clockwork is made out of more complex material it is on the whole more complex. But what I am asking is, is a clockwork more complex because it is a clockwork aka is a machine? Or you could say it like this, are all the materials of the clockwork put together more complex then the materials of the clockwork lying there by themselves? The idea being that a clockwork captures reality in a way. People experience the day and night cycle on the planet and then built a watch capturing that process. You need to be pretty conscious to experience the night and day cycle and a clock expresses that higher level of consciousness. All machines express higher consciousness in a way. A fork expresses consciousness of reality because the design is created in relation to the outside world. Same for a machine gun, a table, etc. ... Does that expression of higher consciousness make the watch or any machine inherently more complex then just the material alone or is is just us giving meaning to it? If it does make the thing inherently more complex by how much? Materials have all kind of complex and amazing traits, a cell is more complex then anything humans built. But also despite that humans dominate the earth with their unholy machines, because their machines are formed with a lot of consciousness of reality in mind. A clock captures the day and night cycle on earth as a complex trait vs lets say the bending properties of a tree trunk. The machinery behind the bending properties of the tree trunk is probably more complex then the machinery in the clock, but they capture completly different levels of consciousness of reality. If that counts for anything.

It seems to me that you use a bunch of clever sounding words to make your point seem more valid. I would partially agree to your point that your consciousness affects your body. When you are relaxed you can detect less stress in the body, you age slower etc. But there are hard limits on that. Even if you live in bliss and belief you dont need food and can live off the sun, you will still starve if you eat nothing. And I belief such a basic survival function of the body like the renewal of semen cant be changed by doing nofap. Humans are tool users. We hunt with traps, spears and other tools and then cook the meat. From this of course its not a natural instinct for us to bite a sheep in its neck There never was a period in human evolution where we only ate plants. Arguing for a mostly fruit based diet vs a complete fruit based diet is a big difference Just because some of the modern foods werent natural for us doesnt nesseccarily mean they arent good for us now. We adapted to cooked food. Dogs are carni-omnivores now, they can digest plants pretty well because they needed to adapt Btw. modern fruit is anything but natural. We breeded the shit out of it Are there any tribes or villages who only consume fruit and are health nuts? What I take away so far is that fruit has quite a lot of nutrients and is one option for the bulk of your calories. And also there might be something to living/ vibrating food over dead processed food which western science cant capture and fruit seems to be the best option to get that. Only fruit seems pretty risky though and people fall for all kind of ideologie, they can starve with a smile on their face, thinking they are living healthy.