Matthew85

I know you have always existed but I still wanted to wish you a Happy Birthday. May your special day be full of joy and love.

@RMQualtrough Whether an insight or answer to a question comes from meditation, contemplation, a book, video, you or Leo, it's all the same. Internal and external are one.

@Terell Kirby You realize if this is true, it includes you as well. Why are you writing to an imaginary Leo on a forum? Have you solved this paradox in your awakenings?

@Leo Gura Thank you Leo! Yes, obviously deeper awakening is required. I guess some of my confusion arises when you say things that seem like a contradiction. For example, you have incredibly profound awakenings where your jaw is on the floor and your realize OH MY GOD IT'S INFINITE. Then you will say my extremely limited Matthew visual field is all that exists. This confuses me. From my perspective my finite perceptions are only perceiving an infinitesimal tiny fraction of what exists. We all know and accept this is occurring on our physical level. For example, we know there are spectrums of light our eyes don't see and sound frequencies our ears don't hear. Should I assume they don't exist because my finite senses can't perceive them? That doesn't seem logical to me. I don't mean to keep asking the same questions. It's very helpful to me to compare and contrast my awakenings and insights with people like yourself. Thank you for your help, insight and guidance!

@Juan Excellent artwork Juan!

@Leo Gura This is deeply profound on many levels. So using the Las Vegas example, you are saying I create Las Vegas right now in the moment as I am experiencing it? Is true for everything? Couldn't an infinite mind be holding infinite possibilities simultaneously? You do agree that our finite minds perceptions are extremely limited though right? Wouldn't you say there are things that exist that from a very limited state of consciousness can't be perceived? But that doesn't meant they don't exist, right? If my mind is the mind of God I must be hiding or limiting my perception of the vast majority of it. As we have discussed before I have already had experiences and insights into this, so I have had some time to integrate and accept that this could be the truth. I am, I actually find this very empowering. I would just like to understand how I am doing it, but you have said there really isn't a how, it's direct and instant. Can you offer any clarification or details on the different levels or depth's of imagination? Like our nightly dreams or daydreams are obviously not the same level of imagination as our physical body or house we live in.

@Leo Gura Thank you! Can you help me understand your perspective on the difference between what Matthew is observing (my visual field) and aware of versus the capital S Self? For example, right now in my Matthew visual field I am not aware of Las Vegas, but Las Vegas is still being held and observed in the mind of God, so wouldn't it be accurate to say it still exists, even though my finite mind isn't observing it right now? I was contemplating the question of capital S self perspective versus Matthew's perspective once during a trip and I saw a vision of a scientist in a lab looking into a microscope at a cell. When he focused in on the cell he could see and perceive from the cells perspective. I interpreted this to mean that the scientist was capital S self me or the higher mind and the cell in the petri dish was Matthew. If I interpreted this right, then it wouldn't be correct to say that the lab doesn't exist when the scientist is looking at the cell through the microscope, right? To me my Matthew visual field and perception is an extremely zoomed in focused limited point of view. I don't feel it's accurate to say that it's all that exists, but I am open to being wrong.

@Leo Gura Leo, I am fascinated by the process of how this is happening. In the future will you please share in more detail how consciousness is doing this? On this subject, will you clarify something for me? Since the Matthew self is something the capital Self is also imagining, Matthew isn't the one imagining the arising content as I walk or drive, correct?

Hmm...Well, friend I don't feel you as God would consider it all meaningless. I don't want to make assumptions about you since I don't know you, but this is not how you as God views life. That is a wonderful goal, but I don't feel it's correct to view it as the only worthy goal to have. When you are more rested, maybe consider some other things and see if there could be other causes affecting your outlook on life. There are many things that can affect our mood and mental state.

Perhaps you are at a plateau. Awakening is an endless journey. My interests have changed as my awareness has expanded, but I still find many things to be deeply interested in and fascinated by. I love this quote "when the ordinary becomes extraordinary" It sums up what expanding my consciousness has shown me. When I look back I can see how I was only skimming a very superficial layer of life, overlooking so much that was present, but I was oblivious to.

@WokeBloke Interesting question. Contemplate on how it is that you are able to have the same and even enhanced sensory perceptions in your nightly dreams. There are clues there to what you are asking.

@WokeBloke Exploring infinite consciousness brings up some interesting paradoxes. According to Bashar, you and I are both imagining versions of each other.

@Leo Gura So you feel if you would have continued you may have experienced rainbow body activation that some Tibetan monks attain where their body shrinks to the size of a small child within a few days, or on rare occasions disappears? And would your girlfriend have still existed? I presume you feel she may have since you made arrangements for her to have access to your accounts. In reading the examples of this happening to monks everyone was still here after they disappeared, so I assume we don't take others with us when this happens. Fascinating Leo! I am glad you are still here.

@justfortoday I find this very interesting. I have had many OBE's and none of the people around me dissolved. They all remained exactly as they are. Also, in reading many NDE's it's very common for them to observe doctors, nurses, family and friends. Your experience seems to be unique. I don't think we can claim any definitive truth from one experience.

Congratulations! Profound breakthrough.

Thank you! This is helpful. I will contemplate on it. I receive many insights in my dreams by holding intentions before falling asleep, but sometimes the symbology is hard for me to decipher. Where it gets tricky for me and I wish I had deeper understanding is we seem to have compartmentalized our consciousness into layers or levels. All levels of imagination are not the same right? For instance, you can have a daydream, but that isn't same level of imagination as your physical body. Even if there is nothing outside of my mind, from my Matthew level of awareness I have no idea how I am doing any of it. Anyway, thank you for the reply. I appreciate it Leo.

@puporing I want that aspect of my consciousness to evolve and expand so that it can hold more of my self.

@Consilience I've been doing regular practices for 16 years. I will continue. I was looking to add something that may help expedite the process.

@Leo Gura I would love for you to teach more on the subject of the different levels or layers of dreaming or imagination. What aspect of our consciousness do you feel is imagining our sleeping dreams or psychedelic visuals versus our waking reality? Is it our finite mind that is creating our sleeping dreams?

@Brivido That is wonderful! An obvious sign of a very expanded consciousness. Many would need to take a psychedelic to have this awareness. I would be interested in what you were doing prior to this recent shift, if you feel like sharing.

@Leo Gura Hmm..but just so I am clear, you are not saying there is nothing outside of my Matthew finite mind right? In the past you have taught that all finite minds including my own are contained within the higher mind or all that is.

@machiavelli Yes, I have read and heard some of these studies. The issue I have with them is there is nothing in all of existence that isn't being held and observed in the infinite mind of God, regardless of whether one or a group of finite minds are observing. So, I'm not sure how these theories hold up. It is very fascinating though.

Einstein actually challenged Bohr and Pais on this theory.

You are referring to the higher mind here, right?

How are they defining observed versus not observed in these studies? Consciousness or God is observing whether our finite mind is or not.