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he has a whole video about being a no cult cult - people get sensitve around their most neglected areas the most, its just that he doesn’t want others to point it out, he likes to do this himself if anybody, which is why denial and identification is maintained - you can’t encapsulate without denial. but this is an old chapter for the channel timeline. it is def less cultish today than it was then.

me too. maybe you read this - stop overthinking, get some digital detox. you are not getting the suicidal normal in that sense (they never will be) but you can stabilize them, and seem to be a valuable person for others, you also need stability for that, if you don’t have a bit of stability for yourself it will be difficult. seek more reallife contacts, this forum can only be a crutch for you. its too much of a homeostatic leveling game, without one on one response, you will also not have many moments where you can experience a sense of achievement here - you really seem like a person who needs the human touch to it much more. yes life is full of really a lot of shit, which is why encapsulation happens in the first place. maybe you‘ll have an anonymous come back lots of love your way

@Javfly33 expectations. high standard has usually higher standard. it does not seam like you are in a challenge with them, you are challenging yourself in front of them as a jury for your own standards.

agreeing with nahm on that - we don’t live in a time where a person can leave a legacy myth like any of both has left. diogenes might be less known but after all his name seems to be written in history books for the centuries, i suppose its almost impossible to reach the same today as its difficult to stand out above general knowledge. a person like alexander today would be known as a person with despotic personality traits, probably. the comparison only works in sense of a mythology of people who managed to handle the problems of their time on a certain developmental stage of their cultures above average. what anyone accomplishes for future generations is them to judge. therefore neither of them really matters for the questions you ask, they are not giving answers for the accomplishment of what questions the now is asking of us.

according to developmental theory in spiral dynamics tier two is inclusive, although if a perspective is non inclusive, it can‘t be tier two and there we go: if self-actualization is not inclusive its just not there yet and therefore dissonance. its like wanting to buy wohlegrain and getting standardized error 550 every time.

because in a perfect setting it would work like this: you both make experiences learn how to body talk and socially interact and from the moment you meet you learn and experiment together. why should you never talk about it? it might seem like a no go but if you never talk about functional aspects of life or even during sex how will you ever make it work longterm? did you ever see a movie where they probably did not talk about functional aspects? maybe solo nature documentaries, but that’s about it. if i were you i would just only talk about it with friends or with more longterm relationships. it’s not about that you learn it, it’s about why - if it’s just for yourself getting layed or laying as many women as possible, forget it, doesn’t matter if you talk about it or not, you can choose how you blow it. it is about making sth work out in a nice way even if its nothing to talk about. you have this one goal now but make yourself befriend with the idea of life long learning, within relationships this does not stop, especially because there will be psychological stuff. what makes you lovable is not „game“ but quite the opposite.

good you noticed, mgto(w)-bro.

@PurpleTree change your gender orientation. you seem like a magnet already and know your priorities. its the way of the universe to tell you, you are not made for women! women usually look out for signs of compatibility.

yeah and it‘s a selfenforcement loop to just not step out of your comfort zone. this myth of bending backwards for anyone while doing armchair philosophy is like watching a yoga movie on your psychologists couch. it just feels like you search for a better negotiation-position but emotions are not negotiable. maybe that’s the whole point. maybe she would really be better off without someone who actually really does only care about standing his grounds in a manly way. how can you solve problems the way you created them? i really suspect you now of being part of the problem, means why she is the way you don’t like her. (even though i noticed that this was a bedroom only behavior - how receptive are you towards male strength and how repelled are you by feminine strength?) @Leo Gura sorry for using your metaphor here but lets be honest if you cannot do it its just that, a metaphor. that‘s why yoga is recommendable.

@ndm678 the calls for dominating her for example - you already stated that was counterproductive. i suppose somehow she needs trust in you the most. you need to start talking to find out what’s the real problem. not some pet theory about how to hold a wife.

wtf

yes for her sake, maybe. do you know anything about their relationship besides his view? i think some of the tips here are partially abusive not regarding language.

be strong emotionally, let her lead you, create novel experiences, make her feel like a woman, let her dominate in the bedroom and make her orgasm. she has dreams, too - might be that for her its important to see that you can treat her your equal and not someone beyond you. if you really need to dominate someone why do you seem to get into relationships where women grow up, but can’t accept them as equal? maybe she feels she needs to be like that to be accepted by men in general, means she didn’t like to be treated like non equal. either you start having conversations about that or you show her that she doesn’t need to be like that with you but its also not a problem for you if she dominates men - trying to push her back in her development won’t work. use it to grow your partnership and your self, not to put her down in her personal development which would just be destroying your „partnership“. or sail alone.

in some sense it would be interesting to perceive the spiral as a potential, which may or may not be supported by the surrounding conditions. access to knowledge like spiral dynamics alone advance the potential for development. if educated in orange or even blue economics for example, green economics might be difficult to access – ideally yellow economics would support grassroot green economics as a source parallel to hybrid versions with greener aims as technological developmental stage. orange or blue would destroy green. if a person with yellow potential clings to orange theories like for example marketing strategies that person is orange with yellow potential – the regress is often a dynamic which is produced by a collective regress not by the individual. the exhaustion can just be more or less more an collective exhaustion, spiraling up either means taking others with you or doing it alone, same goes for regress. we also need to accept more orange businesses as long as hybridal structures are not established yet. people have to survive in orange societies, the transcendence from orange to yellow will integrate green as a practical adjustment. we will have to live in hybridal societies for a while. i can’t see how exhausting toxicity can be transcendence, but yet humans seem to never really exhaust red or even beige even in orange societies, why is that?

@Johnny Galt inappropriate like when uncle touches you somewhere you don’t like? in a time when breasts are still a source of food. or appropriate like women having to keep away from the rest of the clan while they menstruate? or women wondering if they may die of a severe illness, not knowing with whom to talk about it because their organ is not openly talked about, when they first see blood coming out of their vagina? ancient like that? or thousands of condemned marriages because the wedding night which should be magical turns out like a nightmare? appropriate or inappropriate is probably sth which is transported through the METHOD of sexual education. non sexual education is the worst – just feeding a perpetrator victim dynamic . being against sex education is like supporting perpetrators. keeping organs a secret from their inheritors is not exactly what supports a natural relationship to the self. even in a disproportional sense, what if some males don’t want to become perpetrators but disproportionally are pushed in that direction? just imagine you actually would have a body, but no one would tell you and you would have to realize that for yourself, having no clue what that weird thing of a body could be or what dangerous stuff could happen to it. i don’t talk about the soul instead – i guess because its an organ some people have and some just don’t.

@Ingit imagine you would get so obsessed about reassurance that one day you will accuse her of doing stuff happening in your mind alone - but she would not forgive you for the accusation. (this is a total trap you creating to mess it up). really sit down and imagine that until the point where you start distrusting yourself for betraying her with distrust. ocd self fulfilling prophecy also imagine what would happen if she betrays you? she would do it anyways, but if she would, you would be in rage, because you already knew it. maybe this would be also a self-fulfilling prophecy, even. or it would be for yourself to feel better, just in case. there would be a special feeling to it, you already started to create, even if you just randomly split you already created that feeling. obsession is not logical but creates karma (if you like that concept or not) - maybe therefore you need to create a bit more logical behavior, you can make a rule together, asking her that you are texting or calling each other at a certain hour, not making it relevant who calls? and if she doesn’t, you just do? without questioning who calls more often. tell her that you are insecure, too. not in a needy way, just that you need a fix time every day. train yourself not checking for some days, inbetween those dates. or even switch your phone off for extended timeframes for some days, set a time for when you receive messages and if you are down that you didn’t receive any message, you could ask her in the evening on your fixed date about her day, how she feels - maybe she had a stressful day. or you just write her directly when you checked after several hours, that you miss her, knowing that she probably is happy to read that. if you are not able to build healthy communication where you also encourage her, it won’t work out anyways. if this sounds like not worth a try, you already prepare for a drama or tragedy. by the way, might be that there is another issue under the surface you should work on to feel peaceful and trusting in any personal relationship. you could try to figure out where you got that from (family, culture, movies, beliefs, or really personality?maybe a mix) envision how you would like to be instead.

@Max8 just because you are talking to a screen claiming self-development, actuality, truth or being meta, does not mean you are meeting actual intelligence. maybe sometimes, but most of the time the screen is rather the illusion - ofc its a pyramid scheme. ask yourself what self-development and actuality means for yourself and you will probably get different answers than a huge percentage of people writing in this forum depending on your visions and goals. self proclamation doesn’t make true actualization, i‘d say 80% of your conversation here will be ego fights or the attempt for survival of opinion rather than helping you in the field of your own life purpose. if it has to do with helping others, forget it. if you are already asking the question if selfactualization is limited to what you encounter here, be wise and find out what it means for yourself, rather than what others make you believe it might be. although you can achieve a lot of insights and maybe social competence writing here, maybe finding some 20% of growth – it‘s only if you make changes regarding your real development, and might realize what 80% of non communication makes your life sth advanced (still doing it a 100%).

not quite what i imagined. a spectrum is order, how can chaos be part of a spectrum? inherently there is no opposition in chaos and order - it’s all chaos (with an illusion of order, what you define as order) the question is much more technical, it’s not a duality question. sometimes it’s better to let the questions sink a bit more in. or maybe just let them stand for themselves. if you disconnect them from matter they might not make sense anymore. i guess that’s a basic principle, too.

because even space is an aggregate and stability, self maintenance/survival and connectivity are basic universal principles. aggregates have more or less stable connectors and structure which ensure connectivity. in a sense it all starts where chemistry and physics get indiffernciable - you could ask: why is order contained in chaos? how can structure exist without matter? how can sth like life exist if matter is inherently lifeless? why does space as an aggregate not connect to matter as aggregates? why does it seem like zero and one are not basically both one? why can’t one exist without zero and what the heck are all the other numbers standing for. gravity is not a straight line, like time is not a straight line.

well yeah maybe it’s interesting to understand the phenomenon completely - i wonder what mindset is needed to read that book and understand it meta. is it a book full of self-deceptive traps? i wonder where self deceptive traps are localized while i am the book but the book is not me. maybe it’s the recensions which are deceptive. it wouldn’t be the first time. spirituality, esotericism is not a problem is it?

yeah but probably not a translation. i‘m wondering if it is the shitty recensions or if the deida book is really written in last century mindset of oedipus complex. after reading some recensions i‘d hardly think of this an integral book - maybe if i‘d try to understand its shaddow. how sad for women, growing up for males means women must be involved - also in the coupple version of life path why the heck must there be a second entity if you can just be a couple by yourself? mom and me, is just not it. for gods sake if mgtow leave the woman out of your ego dear males. mgto the (w) is just a projection of fears and hate onto fetishised living voodoo dolls. no wonder ggtow. (by the way the smaller the kid the bigger the mother complex)

its such a nice idea, isn’t it? sorry to take the vibe a bit down to earth but this idea has been hijacked so many times already. your #1rule is the best starting point for this turning out to be an ideology or at least a cult. which is making it harder and harder for life initiating especially males to timeless universal truths. as a female i‘m against rule number one - the term „god“ is misleading in many ways, it is a subjectification and therefore objectification of the primal matter.

sounds good

@Ya know in common chackra theory there is this belief that you can push energy up from the solarplexus region towards the complex system of your third eye+crown chakra. it’s just not that simple as it sounds. ofc you use that energy in real fight situation, while sports in general today mostly is a training situation, so you got basically looped into a situation where yo skip over that more regulating yin energy a fighter would probably get of martial philosophies. maybe taking up another traditional martial arts sports as accomplishing training would help you. to transform translate energy into different kinds of channeling, meditation alone will probably not do it for you, because that information is deeply wired to your body movements.

@fopylo you went from a movie towards reality, are you aware of that? it seems like you have high expectations to things really being perfect the way you expect them to be - in movies you never see odd talks about everyday or irrelevant stuff you can`t smell or taste what`s going on really. the heroin never sits next to the hero staring into a phone for minutes, hours. get real with building towards a moment like you had, maybe for the next encounter finding a nice spot for the next kiss. relax a bit more try to change topics if you are not comfortable and don`t be mad with her trying to resolve awkwardness by every day talk. have chewing gum or some kind of candy for fresher breath around for the next time, then she might taste as sweet as you expect her to taste. and you cant loose freedom from a kiss