Zen LaCroix

I noticed a pattern here. If a thread goes on long enough it'll eventually lead to discussions of topics of concousness, god, psychedelics and spiritual advancement practices like Kriya Yoga

The thing is NOT being able to get women can give you an existential crisis It can fill you hopelessness and despair if you can't get a woman because if you can't them then there's no possibility of you having a family which is what most men want at some point Its not even about happiness its about getting those base needs in Maslows Hierachy taken care of

The thing is if you don't have frame then you'll just take on the societal frame which is this girl is better than me because she looks better than me she's out of my league so you just won't approach or you'll be weird or you'll approach her in a low value way because you believe she is better than you You may feel insecure about your looks where you should actually feel confident for no reason at all because confidence in itself is sexy Society's frame at least in America is that the man should chase the woman for example. There are many issues with society's frame

Owen himself has said a bunch of stuff around this overcompensation topic specifically he said you have to act and carry yourself like a highly attractive man but 10x it to compensate for your lack of looks. And you have to hold frame because you will be tested on it for acting like that when you don't look like that type of guy. You also have to hold frame because you are not going to be constantly validated and getting girls throwing themselves at you for nothing. If you don't validate your own frame then your state will crash and your frame will crumble due to rejection. And if you need positive feedback to maintain your frame then you are done! Which I've found rings true He says you basically wanna be the ugly guy who thinks he hot. Every girl at some point has or will date a guy who isn't good looking and you can be that guy. A one of one unique man

Owen loves those crazy BPD girls which is why he always talks about them He's also a super night owl. The whole team that he has is. His lifestyle is not conducive to dating a woman with a regular job. He lives a fast life with lots of sex, partying, traveling, networking at all hours of the day. He travels a lot too He actually clicks with women that care a lot about status get lots of plastic surgery etc from what I've seen but I don't know that much about him

I don't understand the appeal of watching your girl have sex with other men. Can you explain this to me?

As intelligent as you are which we can see clearly in your videos. The book will have more reach if it's written in a way that is understandable. In plain english. The easier it is to understand for normal IQ people then the more the message and the book will spread

If you want the book to get out there you're gonna have to do marketing like go on Diary of a CEO and speak with Steven Bartlett

Leo doesn't do marketing and if you don't do marketing people won't find out about you. There used to be lots of clips being released. Clips allow people who are curious but not fully baught in to test the waters. People who are unsure will often be turned off by a 2 - 3 hour video. Clips and even possibly shorts reels in newcomers

What are these struggles that extreme extroverts have?

Something that the dating coaches don't talk much about is trauma. Trauma is will drag you down when trying to meet women and makes it way harder. Still approach but also you wan to be releasing trauma. Ask chatgpt to give you a somatic experiencing exercise based on Peter Levine's work

30 girls a week is not high volume. You can say it's a starting point for a new guy to learn something. Approaching opens up possibilites so anything can happen. Newbies get rejected right on the approach like 90% percent of the time or more. He's gonna do 5 approaches in a day and they're mostly gonna be like 5 - 10 seconds long anyway. Girls reject you right away generally when you approach nervous, with a weak voice etc. Trust me I know from experience. Then there's all the other newbie mistakes he might make.

You're projecting onto me. You don't know what I want. I don't know what you mean by full conquest. A lot of you guys have such an aversion to learning cold approach and that's fine. But don't act like it's not coming from a place of fear. The original poster is a newbie who stuck in his logical brain and has poor social skills based on what he telling us. He can start of light and work his way up to 30 a week. But if he wants to get even decent he's gonna have to approach way more than that Approaching a lot gets you in the zone and forces you to notice patterns. Also you just get a lot more social experience approaching more. That gives more opportunites to meet girls where there's attraction both ways along with good logistics.

You don't realize that 30 women in a week is actually low volume. That's 5 women a day for a week or 10 a day if you're going out 3 days a week