michaelcycle00

Just drop it.

Been there, you'll get over it. I imagine you're feeling some sort of claustrophobic desperation coupled with sheer terror... sort of chilling, aren't you? Anyways, it doesn't matter. You've been alone for eternity already, there's no eternity in front of you that you have to worry about. The truth is it's here already. You've gotta zoom out of the human perspective of linear time to notice this. Think about how there was no beginning to existence, that alone just obliterates any sense of time. You may as well have been here with no one but yourself for a gazillion eternities already. See? Doesn't matter one bit, you're worrying about nothing.

He's probably just busy hitting the vape pen hard in order to get more insights, but yes, there's not much more to say... at least regarding practical things.

Why do you people love to miss the point all the time? It’s not just about me, but also, the possibility of something horrible happening to me is still there isn’t it?

Oh wow I’m so entertained! If that’s the case please show some mercy and slaughter me already God.

"Everything is God's will". Ok, what is "God's will" in practical terms? How can you measure it? What's the closest you can get to understanding it? See, if none of the above questions can be answered then that sentence is void of any useful meaning. God is infinite, so anything you can or cannot conceive you could call "God's will", leaving us nowhere.

You know for so many awakenings you surely sound like you have a big, fragile ego that can't be argued with. Holykael is literally telling you that he had proper awakenings as well and ended up with different conclusions than yours and you immediately try to discredit him because you feel threatened by it.

I'm not following.

No, I get that part. I'm asking why and what, not how. @WeCome1 So you believe everything is predetermined even from the Absolute perspective? As such, every possibility is actualized and God is, let's say "currently" just joyriding through my perspective but in reality, there's an infinite happening of everything outside of time. Good and bad, correct? @Moksha Which puppet are we referring to? Because there are about 8 billion of them on this Earth alone, and a handful of them are surely at the mercy of the Absolute. A lot of you talk as if people on their deathbeds suddenly become extremely wise and knowledgeable when in reality most die utter idiots. Now what happens to their experience afterwards one can only guess... So it just "is", end? No further understanding? Yeah, it's sad af in my opinion. Because a much higher intelligence won't be considerate to the well-being of a much lower one. Think for once about us and ants, we just step over them without hesitation. We think it's nothing, and as such, we meet the same fate but even worse because the difference between us and God is infinitely bigger, which allows the most heinous and horrific acts to be committed against one another as if it's nothing... As above, so below.

You can say God makes life painful to laugh at itself, but then you could also just as easily conclude that God is sadistic simply based on that. Have any of you noticed how you're always twisting every aspect of reality that the majority of the world despises into a supposedly positive thing? Why do you all deem that more correct than just feeling whatever naturally comes in its rawest form? I'll tell you why. Because you can't confront the actuality of some things. You guys don't actually accept everything as is, otherwise, there would be no need to spin stories around pain and suffering to make it seem a lot less bad, you'd just let it be like everything else. Watch how none of you spin stories around feeling good and peaceful, you simply do. You need agony not to be as bad as it seems. There needs to be a reason why some people are being skinned alive, getting their extremities cut off, or having their families killed in front of them and it has to be a lot less painful than you can even begin to imagine it is. Oh, in the name of love, it is, you say...

Not quite right. What time if there's none? It's an illusion after all. Our consciousness is already infinitely forward and infinitely backward in "time". No beginning and therefore no end which nullifies time. I've already won, I've already lost... I've already died. Nowhere to go and nowhere to do. Oh well... How do you know we're not on the nth chance already instead of the first? And it's irrelevant either way. We could have one chance, two, 8 billion... no difference. What is there to lose anyway? There's your life, there is mine, it's just experience which isn't necessarily more valuable than no experience. Why be so apprehensive about it ending then? I mean, try to imagine living in your current form for eternity. It'd be absolute hell.

Yep, but I don’t think God has much of a choice. Apparently a reality where it’s all goodness or there is more good than bad can’t exist, for whatever reason.

You’re literally the shepherd boy from “The Shepherd Boy and the Wolf” story. You can give it a quick read here if you’re interested: https://www.shortstories4kids.com/2017/02/the-boy-wolf-short-stories.html

The kicker is I believe that you still have to go through that process, or some other process. You wouldn't see it this way if you hadn't taken MDMA first for example. The thing with Spiritual teachings, in my experience, is that it's usually a kind of "easier said than done" thing. It seems simple and straightforward in thought, but in execution turns out to be a whole different beast.

What's the problem with killing a mosquito? I don't think they even feel pain. Also, God has already experienced an infinity of mosquito deaths. You're never doing a good or a bad deed sadly. Every possible scenario has already happened infinitely many times. The illusion is that you're experiencing something unique and without contrast rather than cruising through a pre-recorded tape.

Bro that’s just an ingenious word salad. God is not biased in the Absolute sense but relatively he must be. Some people definitely have it better than others, you really have to be blind not to see it. I can already tell you someone without any sort of deep-rooted trauma has it infinitely better than one with severe trauma, not even accounting for anything else like happiness, relationships, experiences, money, etc.

@Breakingthewall fair enough.

If you think you're being sly with this, think again. You literally got it all wrong (as per Leo's knowledge) so it's not like I can just simply correct you and you'll believe it, and all these questions you're asking me are answered by Leo in that video, so yes, I do encourage you to go watch it again and to pay close attention to it. I could answer that last question of yours but I don't have the authority for you to believe anything I say, so instead of going back and forth where I tell you what Leo actually said and you deny it, do yourself a favor and go re-watch the Solipsism video and let Leo be the one to answer that, which he does explicitly.

Who gives a fuck? Honestly. I don't care about being a soldier or giving it my all, I didn't ask for it... I didn't ask to undergo the trials and tribulations of reality. I won't ever sink into shit either as I'm always more than ready to pull the trigger if things start to get too unbearable. I legitimately don't feel any fear at the prospect of taking my own life, not anymore. It's literally genius if you're able to override the initial fear of ending yourself No need to suffer mindlessly for decades just cause. One's experience is worthless outside the ego-POV anyway, if you're not enjoying it you should be free to opt out of it instead of playing mind games with yourself to convince you that it is indeed worth living so you can keep dragging yourself. I stand by this. Just take a look at how you're spinning stories about being a soldier and giving it your all to justify your pain whilst also projecting it onto others. I don't, I feel and see all things as raw as they get, no matter how bad or hard to accept. You'd rather suffer for the rest of your life as long as people can remember you for being "strong and courageous" or whatever even if you're not actually being or feeling that. Your entire life is designed around avoiding embarrassment or leaving a corrupted image of how you'd like to be seen. You don't want to LOOK like the little guy, but you'd rather BE the little guy as long as nobody else knows. See, I don't share that problem either. My problems genuinely go so far beyond fear and trauma that the prospect of putting a bullet in my head and dying instantly feels extremely loving and liberating in comparison. I've already gone to 2 different psychologists/therapists with over 15 years of experience and neither was able to help me, one even legitimately said she'd never seen a case like mine, and the other just ended it on "seems like your problems are too profound". Not to mention none were able to tell me anything that I didn't already know or had tried. I am simply unable to fool myself into feeling love or masking my true feelings with positivity about this existence if it's not the case. I cannot be delusional. And it is what it is, but I'm done with the stories in the realm of "reality is moving towards love", "you're always given what you can handle", and "it's so you can learn a lesson". Yeah, like there aren't millions of low-conscious, fully ignorant and advantageous people getting their limbs cut with a machete and their skin peeled by the rival gang who didn't learn a thing in relation to love in this life. What about them? Lol.

Lol, so you got an awakening by completely misunderstanding what Leo said in that video huh? If this is what you concluded you gotta watch it a couple more times because that's not what he said at all. In fact, once you "get it" (supposedly) you won't even be so foolish to come to tell "others" on the forum.

I’m having a hard time comprehending what you’re saying. Would you mind trying to rephrase that in a way that’s easier to understand?

You gotta expand as much as possible here. This is beyond fascinating. Also, when you say God is always more than your visual field, does that mean that the POV-based solipsism you’ve been preaching all along has been discarded?

Lmaooo You’re just usually not super clear about it, that’s all. It’s like you directly transcend the “are there other bubbles of perception or not?” question and go straight into “it’s neither” which just leaves people confused.

“Just stop being depressed bro”.

Yeah, but what a shitty game it is don’t you think? If POV-based Solipsism is true (which both you and Leo make a good case for), then why wouldn’t God give itself an exhilarating life full of joy every single time? After all, there are no others’ wishes to go in contradiction to yours, so only your will is left. You know what God gave me? Abusive, conditionally-loving parents, generalized anxiety disorder, social phobia, mild depression, a bunch of fear-surrounded traumas, bullying, becoming the reject in most social interactions I partook in, a super skinny body with thinner bones than 99.9% of guys. Ugly face. Absolutely 0 desire to do anything like getting a job or starting a business because I don’t even care about achieving anything seeing as I would much rather not be a part of this world. And to top it all off he also wants to give me existential terror & dread as well as constantly remind me that things aren’t even greener on the other side, as I’m eternally lonely so even a “happy future” is simply another meaningless illusion. I’m at Costco rn, I saw this woman… must’ve been around 30-32 y/o. Jesus Christ she captivated me so much, she was no model or anything but she just had something that was driving me crazy for her. I’m only 23, but this is yet another example of God teasing me with the things I’ll most likely never get or experience as I’m not suited for them, which is beyond sad when we take into account that he could allow me to in an instant, but would rather live the most depressing, pathetic, weak and suicidal life. What’s not to love right? At least if there are 8 billion perspectives on the planet, I can cope by realizing that I was simply unlucky this time, and that my existence is necessary because for every hero there has to be a loser to balance things out, but no. Just pure cruelty to itself for no good reason. God can fuck right off to infinity and beyond.