michaelcycle00

What is that supposed to mean? I know it's not the whole movie, I literally said that there are actors going through awful stuff and not getting a happy ending. Has not been the case for me personally otherwise I wouldn't be typing this right now. Can you expand on the "unexpected plot twists" and "surprising revelations"? Do you see the future? I don't care about guessing honestly, in fact, what I want is to just give myself (from my Godself to my ego-self) enough knowledge so that I can have peace of mind that I won't be getting sawed in half by a criminal in this life or that I'll have to see my future kid(s) die before me. You know, horrible things you don't come back from. And that I have the capacity to make my outlandish goals happen. That's it, literally. Just enough to function properly here and from a place of happiness instead of fear.

Sure. That makes more sense. Still doesn't explain a good amount of things. Movies usually have a happy ending though (unless it's a trilogy). In our "shared movie" or whatever, there's actors getting raped, mutilated, and then cared for by their assailant just so they can torture them again. Or having their families get murdered in front of them. And boom credit scenes. What kind of movie is that? However, the real important question is: Why is God the way it is? Some have even said that infinity created itself out of nothing. Others that it has always existed... safe to say we have no clue.

Is that the conclusion you came to based off of what I said? Man oh man...

I think God (our real self) isn't truly limitless and can do all, it's just infinite in what IS. That IS is bounded and limited. Meaning, some things CAN BE and some others CANNOT. Example: There has to be suffering for it to be joy, sadness for happiness, uneasy conscience for peace, etc. Duality. There has to be poverty for there to be wealth. People that die for those that live. God has to be OK even with its ugly side. That's why it's all "love". Because otherwise there would just be infinite madness for itself. Now what decided the conditions for God to be the way it is I have no clue, and probably cannot be understood by humans. But maybe someone here has in some sort of insanely deep breakthrough experience realized this, or been deceived by it equally.

No? Isn't the whole sough-after state of "enlightenment" or "liberation" to have internal peace irregardless of what's going on around you? Why not come with that ON from default? Why do we have to chase it by taking psychedelics, doing meditation, yoga, emptying ourselves, etc. The end of it is to basically get rid of there being an antagonist in the first place (at least inside your mind). It's like we're taking unnecessary steps to reach something that's eternal nonetheless. Therefore making anything before that completely irrelevant.

Who or what decides what "can be"? Isn't that just God? I hate the can be's, because that implies that there's something outside of God to decide what is and what isn't, what can and can't be. And if it is God then it obviously allowed some things and not some others, like the other guy said; we can't breathe underwater naturally.

I don't think you understood what I said, mate

Well... this perfect, united, infinitely blissful reality has been talked about a lot and yet, we're here. Maybe this cosmic horror thing is actually a thing felt by our Godself even in the absolute sense of it, but most don't wanna consider it because the implication of that scares them and therefore must be "let go of, since reality can only be love". Why are we reincarnating into this dumpster (and heck, I've had a really good life compared to billions of other people) if there's already a perfect, timeless reality in the absolute sense right here right now that also does not need to imagine a thing to be as it is because it's eternally unchanging? Why is god imagining this if not because it's not content with that? Think about it, what kind of humans tend to daydream the most? The ones who aren't satisfied and happy with their lives. Even Leo has said that God dreams out of boredom. How's that for a perfect reality haha? Maybe God is an anthropomorphic being and Spinoza was wrong about it having infinite attributes and it's only infinite because it has no bound in what it CAN do, but that "CAN" is simply finite.

Where did you get this from and could you expand on it? I've seen lots of people say they feel like they've lived their lives a million times already while on Psychs.

Hey there, hope all is well. I will try not to make this post too long but there are some things that I wonder and constantly ask and research about myself regarding reality (or Absolute Infinity as Leo calls it) that I can't seem to find an answer to. And really I feel like close to no one wonders about it for some reason. Anyway, here we go: I assume there are a few things about Infinity that we can all agree with, and that is that it is absolutely infinite, it's paradoxical, it's nonsensical, it's unlimited and not bound by anything at all as it all there is. Basically, if we were to reduce it to language or concepts it's more like magic and divinity than it is science or equations A.K.A. it cannot be understood. Now here comes the tricky part... apparently reality is infinite because it has nothing to bound it otherwise it wouldn't be the ultimate reality. At the same time, it is everything and nothing. 'Nothing' being absolutely nothing at all; void of qualities. What then, is the "everything" side of it according to us? I feel like people describe their "infinity" trip report experiences as simply never-ending/eternal rather than IT being infinitely many more. And by that, I don't mean the usual "time is infinite", "space is infinite", "everything that can happen exists simultaneously" that I've read many many many times over. No. I mean like there being infinitely many more beyond what we can conceive. People describe Absolute Infinity as either a multiverse of universes or an infinite amount of finite things. And boom there you have it, that's it that's Absolute Infinity/Reality. If it is unlimited and has nothing to be bound by then there should be many more "things" than a 4D Space-Time Universe even in all its different configurations. Infinitely so. People say "everything that can be, is", the "can" being restricting. In infinity, there shouldn't be no "can be's" because there's nothing outside of it to bound the "can's", rather, it should be "everything is because it is", point. I read a trip report here, saying that the matter that created the universe did so because it had nothing else to do and nowhere else to go. Couldn't just "God" decide to wipe it if it wanted to? It could just create it back from the nothingness if it wanted to at some point. It doesn't have to make sense because something can come from nothing, just because, for no reason at all. What I'm trying to say is, Absolute Infinity and the "why is reality the way it is?" question do not blend together. It is because it is and it is also infinitely more, and not. And beyond. Or at least it should be. What is beyond the "can be's"? What is beyond the "it is this way because XYZ excuse"? Why is it either duality or non-duality and not infinitely more in between those states as well as previously and after them? Why is it either good or bad and not an infinite amount of other "emotions" that are no better or worse than the 2 main ones we know and can experience? Why would reality be a fractal and not infinitely beyond it? Why would Absolute Infinity be the ending point and not something beyond it? Surely we can't conceive there being something beyond Absolute Infinity because we can't understand it but we don't have to... and who's to say there isn't? If you can't make sense of what I just said: is Absolute Infinity a complete mystery in the sense that at some point after "my" death or multiple deaths I will no longer wake up in this Universe as a human and instead be or experience something that we as humans have absolutely and will never have any point of reference for? No spatial dimensions, no senses, no concepts, etc (what we could boil down our existence to)... and despite this, whatever this other thing is it wouldn't be abstract, it would be... something else entirely? And then something new again and again ad infinitum. Or, is Absolute Infinity simply Dual/Non-dual 4D Space-Time Universe(s), self-repeating for eternity because there's nothing else that could've been? This contradicts what some describe this Infinity to be like. I'd love the input of people who feel, think, or are completely sure they've experienced "All-That-Is" or "Absolute Infinity" whatever that may be for them. Thanks!

Yeah, I get it, I was just expecting some sort of verbal confirmation but it seems like no one ever thinks this kind of stuff and so my question doesn't even fit their paradigm. Like when you say "It gets into area's/experience that is not possible to understand or relate to as a "human" awakening to God-realization." that's exactly what I'm talking and asking about.

So this is it then? The eternal present, no escape. Reincarnation. And it's the most amazing thing there is? Can you expand on "How this really is, is inescapable and cannot be known" if possible?

I mean sure you're right but we can still talk about it relatively. I don't really need to know exactly how it works, why it does and etc. I just want to know if it can pull (or is) infinitely many more out of its own nothingness that may have 0 to do with its current finite experience (Universe, Finity, Duality). Like is this the only form of finite existence that can be? I doubt it, but if it is so then why?

Right, perception. Something is nothing I suppose you're trying to say? But what does that have to do with what I'm asking? I'm not following.

Sounds finite, but then again, why "that can be imagined" if it is unlimited? Or is it only so relative to our perspective? Is God simply an infinitely bigger version of a human mind that can "run" paradoxes and be composed out of nothingness? Yep, I understand that's what it's composed of, but let's please stay within relativity here. I know in absolute terms this discussion and whatever God is or isn't is pointless which is why I'm not talking in absolutes. Well the different types of psychedelics yield different experiences and while you may get to this conclusion on say 5-Meo or NN-Dmt you could get the complete opposite of love from say Salvia. Unless you mean "Love" in absolute terms where a child getting mutilated is an act of love. But like I said, from a relative standpoint this isn't it. Okay, why is it that way based on your experiences? If the answer is that it "couldn't have been any other way" then what exactly is it bounding it to be a certain way if there can't exist anything outside of it to do so? And if we go by the "Love and Good are absolutes" and "reality is designed to maximize love" premise which really is just to be at peace with itself regardless of what's going on then there shouldn't be a limit or any absolutes in any other sense simply because it's cool with whatever is going down. How exactly do you experience Absolute Infinity if it's really infinite unless it's simply a finite amount of things being repeated over and over again to a point where you're like: "oh ok this is it then"? And I'm not actually making distinctions I do understand that everything is one but whether it be by perception or else reality holds different attributes and/or qualities. Language simply fails me here. True, I remember you saying this: "The craziest part is that space and time are just two of infinitely many aspects of infinity. Infinity is not subject to space or time. Those are finities." Which really is what I've been trying to say all along and if we go by this then you're agreeing with me I believe... I just think that it's dumb to think that Infinity is simply a 4-D Space-Time Universe program with biological agents running itself start to finish over and over again ad infinitum and boom that's it. This is also would contradict another thing you said about it which was: "No wonder the mind cannot grasp it. It's infinitely beyond the mind. A billion minds working for a billion years will never even make 0.00000000001% progress towards grasping it." If it were simply: Good and Love are absolutes, the universe is it, time is eternal and self-repeating... boom. Then I see no reason why a billion minds working for a billion years couldn't figure it out lol. By the way, you said a lotta other things about it which were beautifully put and really moved me. Cheers.

Yeah, I'd agree with this 100% based on my research. Sure, "research" may not account for an actual trip experience but it all comes from experienced... "Psychonauts" I guess you could call them. I understand that there's no limit to what we could possibly think, desire or experience. Among other things. However, my question really boils down to: is Infinity simply an infinite amount of finite things? The Universe is a finite thing so basically Infinity according to what people who have experienced it (allegedly) describe it as basically every possible configuration the Universe could be in (still a finite number despite it being humongous) multiplied by Infinity which causes repetition, infinite repetition. This explains reincarnation and eternal time. Or the eternal now if you prefer. By the way, we're talking relativistically here, not in absolutes, otherwise, this discussion is pointless because I could be both right and wrong (and right and wrong and right and wrong blah blah blah) as far as we can know. But really, is God/Existence lacking in the novelty department? Most people's experiences lead me to believe it is so. Oh how many times have I read "time dilated during the trip and I felt like I had done this 'xyz thing' a million times before" (reincarnation). Are we doomed to experience the Universe forever? Why can't reality or God create infinitely many new complex things one absolutely different from the other so it never runs out of things to experience? And I don't mean in the sense of alien worlds in different planets and parallel universes where the water is color orange and stuff, no, I mean literally a whole 'nother reality that wouldn't make any sense at all if we were to somehow experience it, but it would to those who inhabit it. Why isn't the mystery of creation infinite? new thing after new thing all incomprehensible to those that only experience one finite reality at a time (say us), and then some. I hope this makes sense.

Quick question, have you personally experienced this while on Psychs or is this just something you think is likely to be the case? I've read literally hundreds of trip reports and I'm still not sold on this idea since it kind of contradicts others... how I wish it didn't though. Apparently some people have broke through and become God/Infinity/All That Is/Everything and Nothing, whatever you like to call it. Apparently they reach a state of omniscience. They even say they "knew everything that was, is, and ever will be". That's not possible unless experiences are finite. If they were infinite, you could never know everything as it's not a set number of things/events/experiences. So, are time and space the only infinite things in creation? While experiences and things that could exist aren't? I always thought infinity was infinite in every way, meaning, there's an infinite number of inconceivable things to, us humans, for example. Infinite colors, dimensions, unimaginable things, etc. Is there or is there not a limit? Can there be something that hasn't always been? Some argue no, Leo says "God does create". Leo if you're here I'd love your POV on this. Thanks in advance.