Bobby_2021

Studies make way more assumptions and have biases than I do. The problem is that it's harder to find such assumptions in a technically rigorous study. My observations are not personal. It's scientific. IQ is central to psychology. Plus I have also given my reasoning behind my explanations. You can call them out if they are flawed. Here are my assumptions: 1. IQ is a real and it can be measured. 2. People with high IQs earn more and are successful in life, in the long run. 3. High IQ students do well in academia. Academia is an IQ test. 4. Standardised test scores are functionally equal IQ scores. This is central to the concept of IQ. With that said, if some groups of people exhibit better performance in academia, it's because they have high IQ, particularly in STEM/LAW/FINANCE. So jews performing well in academia, is the proof of their high IQ. I am afraid you don't quite understand how IQ works. Winning 20% of all nobel prizes is the IQ test. So this should be obvious from your own personal experience, if you understand how IQ works. Getting high SAT scores is a sign of high IQ since SAT is the IQ test. A test that involves sufficient intellectual abstractions to solve could only be solved by a high IQ individual. Asians have higher IQs and Asians routinely top the SAT tests and Indian American women out earn white men in the US as a consequence. (As I have explained in my previous thread) AshkenaziIQ.jbiosocsci.pdf Here is an article which states that the average jew iq is 112. Insane numbers. Life sucess is highly coorelated with IQ. Because success in academia translate to success in real life. You don't need a study to prove that snow is white or sky is blue. And accounting for the 1% of the time when the sky is green or red isn't significant. It's just an observation. Just because a study or a source exists, dosen't means it's true. Also something can be true and a study may not exist to prove it. Moreover discussion of Differences in IQ of races is banned on this forum. So you can do your own research. As I said studies like this are extremely misleading. High IQ parents are much more likely to be educated and conscientious They will generate weath more than average person. Their kids are of course likely to be high IQ because their parents are high IQ and IQ is genetic. Not because the parents are wealthy. Your "studies" do not take into account these inner dependencies. Tell me what you want to believe and I will show you a study that confirms that. It all depends on what data you choose to include and what data you choose to deny. "Early twin studies of adult individuals have found a heritability of IQ between 57% and 73%,[6] with some recent studies showing heritability for IQ as high as 80%.[7] IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ#:~:text=Early twin studies of adult,for late teens and adults. Here you go. Heritability of IQ is a well established fact in psychology. You shouldn't be asking for articles or sources to explain the obvious. I expected you to already know these stuff. It's all a google search away. I didn't say and run. I gave my reasoning as well. You are free to tell me where I went wrong and discuss about this rather than outright denying my observations. My assertion was that IQ matters more than environment or culture or privilege in the long run. This is the reason why Indian American women perform not only well in academia but also in earnings compared to "privileged" white men. This itself is a topic worthy of discussion on its own.

DMT is one helluva drug. ??

@something_else ok so let me get this straight. You have to compete, perform and bring more to the table for an older, less attractive, less valueable version of girl with tons of baggage, trauma & trust issues. I don't have fear of lack of performance nor my value. But that will be for a highly feminine virtuous girl that protects her value. Not some deranged hoe. Anyways you go ahead king. ? Not my cup of tea.

1. All studies have limitations and the manipulate the data to fit their presumption. So a perfectly controlled study dosen't exist. 2. That's why you have to rely on your own observations and come to conclusion while also taking into account the studies and statistics that are occurring in the area. 3. There is high chances that someone will misinterpret and accuse me of stuff because of comparing between classes of people. [Vibe of this forum is tending to woke] 4. You do not need to take into account 29 variable and control for them. Classes of people from less privileged backgrounds can outperform people from more privileged backgrounds. One quick "study" is this: Indian American women earn money equally or comparable to white men in US. Now think about this. Despite being women of color, doing all the housework and catering to kids, they earn just as much as privileged white men who do not have to worry about household work. This is why controlling for environments is crap. If there were equal opportunities, then Indian American women should have been earning more than privileged white men in US. IQ is the best predictor of academic success, which translates into more earnings and high career growth. Denying the above statement is like denying the entirety of psychology. Notice that the less privileged background of women didn't stop them from earning more than people who were extremely privileged. And IQ is largely driven by genetics. (Refer to studies in psychology) Environment factors exert only minimal influence on IQ. Jews should have IQs way higher than Indian American women in my opinion. That is simply genetics. These observations prove my point that controlling for environments is futile. Control for genetics and everything makes sense.

Damn the fact that I wil literally be doing this dreaming forever and ever is simultaneously overly satisfying and disappointing. Disappointing because all the awakening work you do in this life will go to waste once you go back to sleep. Then suffering and shit will start from ground zero once again. Satisfying because I don't feel compulsion or hurry to do or feel or be anyway because I am literally here forever.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-schools-to-eliminate-controversial-gifted-talented-classes/3313300/ Teaching methods useless in my opinion, assuming that the teacher is decently good, and knows the subject and they are talking about. Not some bum. I personally payed money to some teacher online because my college classes were taught by dumb teachers who couldn't even clear my doubts. So I do understand the value of having good teachers. But there is a limit to how good you can teach. A 130 IQ student with an Internet connection will outsmart someone who is 15 points lower than them even if they had a private tutor. I am sure that other variables do have a significant impact, like living standards, stress and nutrition. But once those are controlled you don't see too much difference in the results. There are plenty of examples from which groups of people having high IQ but grew up in poverty outsmart their privileged peers. Talking about all of these factors without losing its essence in a single thread is hard. I am always for equal opportunities. I am also for unequal results.

What I am saying is that if we gave advanced education just like jews did, not everyone is going to make it thorough it. Also your capability to learn is what makes more of a difference than effective methods of teaching. A class of 20 students get different results with the same teacher. Now you might say they all come from backgrounds with different opportunities. But you can control for opportunities and still the results will correlate to their IQ. Equal opportunities and unequal results. On educational system: With that said, our teachers and education system is trash. They themselves don't really understand what they are teaching, except for delivering surface level explanations and showing off a few slides. But sadly we are removing gifted classes because they are apparently racist by the woke left. In reality they are racist against asian americans.

@Carl-Richard As a case study, take 1000 students and mandate advanced calculus, chess, puzzles, multiple languages from the time they are 2 years old. Now do the same with students different cultures. You will get my point. I bet jews or asians will do better in such classes because they already had high IQs in the first place. And things are not so simple. If mandating advanced education lead to better results in life, they would have already done it. Such people should do better in college overall. Stem, finance education is extremely rigorous. That's why they select only high IQs to appear for the college. If you make it mandatory for everyone, then most kids would fail. It involves computations and cognitive powers which not everyone possesses.

Thank you. I hope we both understood something. I certainly did. I don't intend to continue this discussion either. With that said I need to clarify one point for others reading this. There is huge difference in interpreting what I said as "woman are damaged" vs "damage has been done to aspects of her". The latter is true. Former is not. The former is implying that everything about her is damaged. Slut shaming happens from the former. Slut shaming is meant to degrade her as an individual. Which is why it's ugly and misogynistic. Your leg can be damaged and you are still functional as an individual. When I say her leg is damaged, you are interpreting it as "she is damaged". The damage has certainly be done. Nope. It does not. Girl is not damaged. "Girl has been damaged" is a whole different statement lol. That means she is dysfunctional as an individual who won't even be able to properly function in society. What I said is that aspects of her which magnify her feminity has been damaged. Undoing the damage has to do with overcompensating because you have to cater more, because guys have disappointed her in the past, and she naturally thinks you would do the same. Not to mention higher expectations, mental baggage & trauma. Many even turn into man haters, just because of bad things that happen in the relationship. Nice joke. ? You should put this up for discussion.

why are you competiting with random young guys in the first place. And you are conflating high standards with high expectations. A women who has been in more relationships will only have more expectations. And you will always fall short. She definitely and certainly feels like she lost a great catch. It becomes harder for you to satisfy her. This is worse than the flip side. You never really wonder about other guys if you haven't been in a serious possibility that you could be with them. If you dated and dumbed a film star celebrity, you would always wonder about how great your life would be with them. If you have never dated a film star, you don't seriously entertain that possibility anyway. Plus young people are more malleable and adjustable. Older people are more rigid. So comitting young instead of sleeping around had it's own benifits. ??? You know what? It's completely ok that you responded like this. I never expect a woman to objectively understand the base level mechanics of dating market. It's too harsh for the feminine psyche.

I didn't say women are damaged. It's the capacity to commit is what gets damaged. And women who has low levels of commitment are low value. This is a consequence of sleeping around. Which is true. Again this applies to men with commitment issues as well. His ability to commit will also become damaged. Fact. You nitpick what you want to hear. I stick to every word that I have said. And even explained my reasoning with facts and statistics. And you are not going to bully me away with childish accusations of "misogyny". Men having higher standards will obviously result in some women not qualifying to such standards. It's not "ostracization" or "misogyny" lol ? You are exaggerating my words to make me look as such.

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@Tyler Robinson I am sorry that it offended and hurt your feelings. It's not misogynistic to say racking up a higher body count has consequences. I included men as well in my assessment. So I don't get where the misogyny part comes from. The same issues also applies to men. The men who smoothly attracts hundreds of women are not going to ve highly developed spiritual sages. They themselves will narcissistic confident assholes. The only way you can get rid of the baggage is by doing deep spiritual work which most people will never ever do. Are you saying that "sexual liberation" has zero consequences on future relationships? The sexual market place is not a sweet and fail place where everyone is equally valued for who they are. That slut shaming that you lowkey support is itself a mechanism built by partriarcy so that women preserve their value. It's the same way how men who are poor, short, different skin colour & accent, has a tougher time in the dating market because they are associated with lower value by women. This is done so with zero explanation or compassion to the men that are being eliminated from the Market. Similarly women can also be of low value. Women who can preserve their feminity will be of higher value. It's not hateful to observe either of those.

@Carl-Richard 1. I can guarantee that Jews have higher IQs than other races. IQ is the best predictor for success in modern psychology. This is a statistical fact. And IQ has a huge genetic component. There you go. 2. Discussing IQ of races is banned on this forum. So I have restrictions on defending my point with elaborate numbers. You will have to do a google search on Jew IQ and you will find a number of sources proving my point. 3. The problem with this argument is that there are groups of people who grew up in similar cultures and huge pressures put upon them and they never quite excelled. Culture is the variable here. I am not denying cultural pressures. But many other cultures also had plenty of similar pleasures and they never quite excelled. When you take those into account, you realise that culture could have been either way and some culture may/may not have excelled. You can leave your farming job and do finance only if you already had the genetics to do finance. Maybe this could make a good case of culture shaping the genetics. You cannot completely seperate both. But culture needs eons of time to have any significant influence on genetics. And culture is not arbitrary either. If some culture found out that they could make hundreds of millions of dollars by working hard they would absolutely do it. You might say that they were not privileged enough. But there are a lot of cases of unprivileged cultures being more successful than privileged ones and vice versa.

Dumb stuff like what you choose for dinner is not determined by genetics lmao. But only a few people excel so it's easy to determine the cause for their success. Genetics determine a small minuta of the overall domains of nature. What you said is an exaggeration. Mostly from my observation. Nature for some reason adheres to the pareto principle quite well. I am not going to pull up precise numbers just to make conversations of genetics intersting to you like you said lol ?

If there is no fundamental differences between your current normie state and mouse state, then surely the mouse should be deceiving itself. Because you are certainly deceiving yourself now. Mouse is deceiving itself at a higher level. Above the mouse is the monkey king. Wait till you get blown away when you reach monkey level. ?‍?

I didn't say that everything is impacted by genetics. What I said is that excellence in most domains is determined by genetics whether it individual/ or a collective group like jews for eg. Most people would get heart attacks by working for 40 hours a week. And then there is Elon Musk who fairly regularly pulls off double that number. That shit simply won't happen because culture made you do it. And some people are born with workaholic genetics. Just like some people are born tall or white. If you have High testosterone levels, then you will be able to sit and concentrate for hours in a row. Which might explain why men can work longer hours than women. Genetics. >80% genetics & <20% environment. Roughly. See culture as a catalyst that incentives or gently encourages an event. The real deal is genetics.

@something_else I don't want to talk about the causation part because generally people become triggered. So I have to be careful with how I word them. There are good cases of causation. Women are easily manipulated and abused by assholes. So these people could load tons of baggage onto women. There is no way you can detect that. And women's choices in men are horrendous. Especially that of young woman. This is simply not the case. This happens to extremely well meaning and nice women. 2. She will compare you to all her previous 20 partners. Dick size, performance, charisma, money, power, influence. Good luck competing with her previous guys. And you get a girl with tons of baggage and trust issues. And she will wish that you could be better that all her previous partners, else she feels like she had to settle down, with a lesser guy. Managing relationship is like a tight rope. Both have flaws. Higher standards dosen't mean you have to be better than someone else. You need to be committed to making a relationship work. This Capacity to commit if irreversibly damaged by casually sleeping around. If you had higher standards you would choose a virgin girl anyway. Since it's harder to find them. They are more loving and feminine. You wouldn't willingly choose to undo the damage done by other guys lmao.

Your ability to sit and work for extremely long hours is restricted by your genetics. Your hormones and your entire biochemistry has to be carefully aligned inorder to allow you to "work hard". Culture won't be able to enforce unless your ingroup genetics allows for it. Attributing success to hard work is misleading. Almost everyone works hard, from what they can. It's a bit like saying, success comes from drinking water and taking cold showers. Of course you need to work hard and drink water on time to succeed. That's not what makes the difference though. Differences are explained by genetics. Supreme genetics allows you to get work done *fast*.

Apart from the famous people, virtually all jews I have interacted with are extremely smart. Yet to see a dumb( or normal) jew. Truly the Gods chosen people. Everything the exists to the left and right of Israel is totally fucked. And they somehow managed to make Israel a tech hub of the world and high HDI rank. Incredible.

Because the rich has control of the assets. It generates income which you can use to buy more assets. You can afford to bet on a lot of opportunities as a rich person. Even one win will rake in millions The poor can't have that option. They can neither buy option nor money making opportunities. Their struggles are paying rent and electricity bills and food. Their intellectual bandwidth is locked up with menial stuff. A vicious trap.

Should slut shaming be done? No. With that said, high body counts are correlated with more divorces, baggage, trauma, trust issues and low pair bonding capacity. This applies for men too, not just women. So I understand why society does it. A long term relationship is more likely to fail of the partners were engaged in pre marital sex. How is that a red flag if a man wants to marry a virgin girl? If any red flag is when she has an insane body count. Maybe he will sleep with her. But no man would prefer a sult to be the mother of his children. That is if he has a choice of course.

Could the mouse be deceiving itself.

@Leo Gura When certain individuals excel in certain domains, you attribute everything to genetics. When groups collectively excel in certain domains, it's always working smart and working hard. Hipocracy? You simply won't get 20% of all the nobel prizes by working hard and working smart lmao. You won't become Einstein by working smart. They are genetically gifted. High IQ. High Energy, high conscientiousness. These are handed to you at birth, largely. Not only some people are genetically gifted, but some ethnicities are also genetically gifted.

It's impossible to know anything. You will never know anything. What does it mean to "know" anything? It only means you are at peace with something. You will never know that you are God in its entirety. If you did, you would right now. The only thing you could do is to expand your state of consciousness so that you can feel that you have understood relative to your previous stage of consciousness. God dosen't have anyone else around him to ask and verify any claims. The only truth is being. The end.