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I used to write everything down for 5 years or so. But then I stopped almost completely. The problem is this: 1) Insights are generated from a specific state of mind. You can write them down while you are in that state. When you look back at what you wrote later from a different state, it doesn't really make much sense. The state of mind is more important. I would try to stay in that state for as long as possible and savour the insight as much as possible. 2) An insight properly integrated doesn't require to be written down. 3) Writing them down is an attempt to *save* the insight for later. Insights are like a shy cat. If you try to catch them completely they are going to elude you. I feel like I was able to generate an order of magnitude more insights when I was simply care free whether worrying I would lose them or not. It's from my personal experience only. I haven't tried psychedelics nor do I have to communicate my insights systematically to others, in which case it's helpful to write them down. If my mind is overwhelmed with Insights, then I write one or two words pointing to the insight, so that my mind needs to work further to unpack them as opposed to attempting to write them down completely, which you can't.
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In that case the things you write down have no serious depth to them. Writing things for the sake of repeating later is not particularly admirable either. You are indoctrinating yourself with some piece of information. Ending creativity is a legit concern.
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This is not to taken as a rigid point. If your mind is overwhelmed, then it's better to write things down so as to aid the mind. Else just think and generate insights.
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Well said. I agree. For communicating insights properly to other people, it helps to write things down, minimally. I will simply write down words to act as pointers to the actual things I want to communicate. To make my mind think more and rely less on external texts. I just don't see it. I occasionally write things down, but only when it's too overwhelming for my mind. At all other times, it is better to just think. I completely agree. But my point was tangent to what Leo tried to communicate using the blog post.
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When thinking about things from an existential point of view, it makes so much sense, so much clarity. I think I should let time heal myself or wait for my development to reach this level.
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Yes. Exactly
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Suffering oneself is one thing. What if I see some other creatures suffering and it is bugging me to the core? What most people do is to turn a blind eye to it. By willful ignorance you can have peace thinking that the world is sunshine and rainbows. But that's not true isn't it. Many people are starving to death right now. Puppies are shivering in the cold. Mothers haven't eaten in days. They go through excruciating pain every single moment. But if I am the only being in the universe, only I can suffer. "Other" creatures can't suffer because there is no "other", but me. Can I use solipsism to find solace from having to experience the suffering of others? Thoughts?
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It is possible to simply turn off my mind from having to experience suffering of others, and a lot of suffering of yourself. But I am not sure I even want to do it. Solipsism is powerful. I can lean into it and deconstruct the suffering of others. It's quite possible and I am tempted to escape suffering by brute forcing solipsism. It feels wrong somehow somewhere. I won't do it. You should be able to dictate the terms of how your own mind works. I don't believe that suffering comes externally and you have no choice whatsoever in regulating it. Is this really the case? I don't think so. Buddha was living a luxurious life of a king before he met and emphasized with the sufferings of normal people. Like that mouse state you had? There will always be a higher state that will change your understanding. You can do a lot of things to minimise the suffering, but do you really want to do it? You can certainly save many individuals and puppies from suffering.
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Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
They were literally virgin men lol. No. He is not willing to marry anyone. What's the point of dating if it's not to marry? -
Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
People need to calm the fuck down and seperate the wheat from the chaff. Tate can say really valuable things and also do plenty of despicable things. That's dosen't invalidate the validity of the things he is saying. It's no doubt that he has said plenty of commendable and worthwhile stuff. I highly despise the way he made money. These things are not contradictory to each other even though it might appear likewise initially. Even if Leo ends up in jail tomorrow that dosen't make all his teachings wrong. -
Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Leo, I greatly appreciate the time you spend with us. You have formed a caricature version of Tate in your head and it's not how it is in reality. Did you watch the 5 hour interview Tate had with Patrick David? Imagine for a moment, that Patrick left his wife & Tate in a room after the interview. Maybe Patrick have left to somewhere long away for some emergency. He obviously trusts Tate. Do you really think Tate would use that opportunity to get some action with Patricks wife? I mean come on. He is not that stupid. He can think of the consequences for his actions. Sociopaths are cold and calculating. If his wife says no to Tate's advances, and she let her husband know of Tate's behaviour, then he will simply lose all friendships and possibly other business deals with people worth hundreds of millions of dollars. A simple cost benefit analysis could make this clear. You think Tate is unaware of the consequences of making such a move? You are forming a caricature version of Tate where he is pussy hungry dog who is a manipulative sociopathic criminal literally all the time. Plenty of people who spend time with him talked greatly about his behaviour. It's hard to let go of the image in your mind about him. That's ok. I don't intend to Change it. What you are saying is true, but to a lesser degree. He would fuck you over when he gets the chance, but not to get some sex by forcing a close friend's wife to cheat. Even sociopaths/psychopaths can have a sense of honour, even when they lack empathy. The matrix narrative is stupid and critical thinking is basically nill. And I don't agree with Tate's views morally or ethically. HU2 is literally "pay me money so that I can tell you to be rich" kind of thing. I know it's nonsense to a large degree. Obviously you are not so masculine if everything needs to be explained to you and you are going to follow it like a sheep. Part of masculinity also means that you have to take responsibility to weed out the crap from your teacher/role model as well. That's the responsibility of the student. Obviously Tate is not Jesus. He is a model with countless flaws. I think the ideal role model would be 50% Tate, 30% Da Vinci, 20% Goggins or someone else that you like. Being a masculine role model is no walk in the park. Ok good. Can he also urge people to develop themselves intellectually. Tate plays chess. Emphasis on utilising IQ. Intellectual strength is as important as physical strength. Also, it's different when Goggins motivate people to improve their strength. Pro fighting is the peak of strength. Goggins is just mostly endurance and pushing yourself. Slight advantage to Tate in that respect. @zurew do you think any sex work, at all is morally and ethically, perfectly okay? There is always some degree of scheming and manipulation inbuilt into this system. Simps pay you money to dance to their fantasies. This is what all onlyfans girls take advantage of. They are selling a personal connection or the girlfriend experience, not nudes. Here is the trick, most onlyfans girls are not talking all the time. They have other people to talk on their behalf. That's how they appear "online" most of the time. Tate lying about this and that is morally bad, but is it illegal though? He said a bunch of lies to women. He even tattooed them "owned by Tate". Is any of these illegal? I really don't know. Let's leave that for the courts. If he raped women in the "workplace", then surely he is guilty. But we don't know that. @lxlichael why are you so triggered? Why can't you write a calm response? I don't mean high value or low value individuals in some sort of objective sense. High/low value people exist relative to the domain/hierarchy of interest. It is certainly true in the real world whether you like it or not. -
Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
The key point is that Tate wouldn't be friends with normies. If you are going to be his friend, then he should spend time with you chatting and doing friends stuff. His time is worth millions from what he is making. So if he is spending time with you, it's because you are a high Net worth individual, whatever that may be. He is allowing you near him because you have some value to provide him. That's how he choses his friends. I don't pass the net worth to be his friend to ask him to babysit my wife lol. So what? A masculine role model need not and should not adhere to the norms of the society. What do you mean mainstream anyway? Feminism/woke green ideologies aren't mainstream in 80% of the world. His views are in alignment with majority of the world. They agree with what he says. That's why he garnered such huge following in a short while. I am not dismissing his entire value system. There are plenty of things to learn from Arnold & Rogan. I am just dismissing them from the elusive throne of masculine role model since it's based on exclusivity anyway. Arnold wouldn't even be famous without steroids. Isn't there any point when he is talking to young kids to not use them? The message has to be in alignment with the life. Else you are being directly hypocritical. If kids look up to arnold, then it's because of how he looks, not because what he says. The only way to look anywhere close to arnold is to use steriods. TRT can be just as harmful and affect longevity. The thing is that some individuals have no problems taking it at all(atleast no short term problems) while others might have severe reaction. Also he may have done actual steriods, but simply downplaying it. Can't know for sure, but many suspect it. It's simply safe to not meddle with your hormones. It can affect you in terrible ways. I am not putting that as a requirement, but he has to demonstrate 95 percentile physical strength. He can choose whatever area to demonstrate his strength. Gym/Weightlifting isn't going to cut it. Gym is just pumping muscles to look strong and intimidating. They are not nearly as strong as the average ufc fighter of similar weight. Also the masculine role model is an ideal to strive for. Not everyone is required to be the exact copy cat of your model. That's sheep mentality. A guy should be able to look at tate and say to himself, "Oh I should develop my strength" and do whatever he could do to gain strength. Maybe he could atleast do 50 pushups. That's enough for the moment. No need to force everyone of his followers to be a fighter. I don't get your point. It was a money making opportunity for everyone involved. Those women wouldn't have made a quarter of the money working alone. Even when those women were asleep, Tate was texting simps from her socials. So Tate did a lot of the work. All she had to do is to strip on camera, most of the times not even fully naked. Do you think the onlyfans chicks do not have husbands? He could operate the chat most of the time. Simps are not looking for a naked female pic. There are trillions of such pics on the internet. What they are looking for is someone to talk to. This is how most money is made in the website. By ripping off the simps. Usually a man is working behind the curtain. It's easy money. I am not saying that none of these stuff are admirable things to do. But our society allows these things to happen. If it's consensual it's fine. Afterall lefties constantly preach that sex work is work. In that case this is perfectly fine. Women are just working under a boss who owns a business who gives 50% of the revenue generated to them. Most businesses won't even pay that much to their employees. This is a perfectly legal and normal way of working, according to leftist world view. I am no legal expert, but what he did until now isn't worthy of any punishment, from what I know of. Romanian court is continuing the investigation, and strongly upholds the "innocent untill proven guilty" right to them. They are detained because of the seriousness of the alleged crimes and their ability to fly to some other jurisdictions to escape from being investigated. 30 days is the time to provide evidence for the alleged crimes. Else, most likely the investigation will continue with them being free. Let's wait for the results of the trial. -
Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Joe rogan & Arnold did steroids. A man shouldn't be focusing on pumping up his aesthetics with potentially harmful hormones. He should focus only on getting things done. Obsessing on aesthetics are for women. Doing steroids isn't something young men must aspire to. It can severely damage your health. Is David Goggins even capable of combat? I don't know. Goggins just runs like a madman. Not so impressive. Jordan Peterson has a mental breakdown every other week. Mike Tyson is good model, but he doesn't have speaking skills and he did many crimes. Also low IQ, possibly. Tate did sex trafficking and hurt women, allegedly. [ Investigation is going on]. None of the things Tate said online isn't going to discredit him from his masculinity, except for maybe 5% of the things where he went overboard. That's forgivable, given that he can change the way he speaks. None of the male role models value excellence, competency and sheer brute power. That's what many men crave for deep inside. They want to utilise their potential to the fullest. If a man comes along and says that you have to be the absolute best and crush everyone else in everything you do, and he also walks the talk to some degree, of course men are going to be inspired by it. You also have to value freedom and protect the freedom of choice and resist government tyranny. When a government forces a half tested vaccine on your body, then people should have the autonomy to reject it. A masculine male role model will never force things down your throat. Tate spoke out against this while many "masculine role models" blindly urged you to get vaxxed. It's not about the effectiveness of vaccines( which itself is debatable) but simply freedom of choice. You cannot be anywhere close to masculine without valuing freedom and autonomy. The fact that it's hard to find a male role model is a feature rather that a bug. No man is deserving of that position absolutely forever. It's too valuable of an authority and Power to be able to inspire military age men. You essentially control civilization by inspiring young men. -
Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
A man desperate for pussy would exploit the opportunity to get a little pussy. You should worry about such men. Tate do not need to exploit my wife to get it. It's meaningless. He could get countless women to fet laid anyway. And losing my trust and friendship is going to cost him more. A simple cost benifit analysis is enough to reason this out. I will trust Tate in this situation 100%. With that said, what Tate did with his webcam business is not admirable. But can you really say it's all that bad when those women working with him, stripping on camera, made millions of dollars. He says that everything was consensual. -
Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
The idea of masculinity is based on exclusivity. Every masculine guy is striving for perfection. So it's hard to find a true single masculine role model. Because one thing they did or did not do is enough to disqualify them from being a masculine leader. You should be able to pull off things that others won't be able to do and with brutal efficiency & pragmatism. Get shit done. His values should be physical strength, intellectually smart, have money, social skills and charisma with women, value excellence and speed, talk what he thinks with no fear of what others think, challenge norms of society if necessary, value Truth, freedom etc. Above all he must instill inspiration in the minds of men to be the most best version of themselves. Tate comes pretty close although his ways are morally questionable. In other words the best role model for men would be Tate minus his sociopathic traits. He should be a little more considerate to other people and stop the Bugatti cringe. He should have more to his life than cars and models. -
Exceptions are allowed to exist. It doesn't mean 99% of the time is false. 1% of the time it's different. It's literally an exception to the rule. If something is right or works for 99% of the time, then it's worth considering it as truth, atleast in the relative domain.
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Whatever you say. ??
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False.
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Biology is a social construction. Sex is a social construction. Male/Female is a social construction. Male and female are just as arbitrary labels as man or a woman is. Gender and sex are not that different as you think. Both are pure social constructs and labels. You can literally make up anything you want. Tadaaa
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Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Lol the "matrix" narrative is the stupidest thing ever. "Your life is shit because they(elites) are keeping you weak and emasculate." This shifts the responsibility and blame of your life being trash to some shadow figures out there. There is some validity to this claim, because of the dark nature of how power works, but Tate is overflowing it far too much. But think about the scenario if he is not convicted and set free. He can claim that the matrix has attacked him twice and he won. This controversy itself is gaining him a huge following and attention. He will easily transform this into hundreds of millions of dollars. This could be the best or worst year for Tate. -
Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Damn the articulation. ?? Not this time though. Romania is in the centre of world's attention and they will consider it as a golden chance to clear their bad historical reputation of trafficking and bribing. The corruption will work against Tate this time, most likely. If there is strong evidence it's the end for top G. Else he will remain the top G. -
Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
His video has good points. But when you make a weak point like that, which has already been addressed by Tate countless times, it's hard to take anything else he says seriously. It gives me the impression that the lawyer was too lazy to research the stuff before he presents it to his audience. Usually people like this come up with even more weak arguments which dilutes the strength of their original arguments. Of course he did illegal shady shit in the past. It's my inkling to believe it. It just seems so. @Danioover9000 In this limited domain, your thinking seems to be yellow. But simply by not giving an opinion, pretty much everyone is yellow on this. But hey, don't get too caught up in labels like yellow/green/red. Maybe one side could be true and we fail to see it, because we weren't insightful enough. -
Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Weak case. He is ideologically ranting with some good points. His video on beating women was said in a response to the question "How would you deal with a woman who too the gun/machete and started attacking you?" Tate said he will take the gun off of her hands and hit her back *in self defence*. We will have to wait for the courts to decide. No one who has done actual crimes will come on camera and admit it. Tate did some shady stuff, but it's nowhere near horrible as the media makes it to be. As for the really horrible allegations, the court is to decide. Either way, it's exciting to see how this will turn out. Since he is such a polarising figure, people can't give an objective evaluation of the situation. Either he is Jesus or he is Epstein, according to random dudes on the internet. I recommend you don't listen to them at all. I would usually extend the decency of assuming innocence before being proven guilty. But a man is usually guilty until proven innocent. Whatever let's wait and see. -
Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
The most level headed take I found. https://youtu.be/I5TMsQcSuQA If Tate is guilty, he goes to prison. No one will defend him. If he is not, then he will grow bigger than ever. All misinformation will be busted once in for all. His dumb "matrix" narrative will be even more powerful. There is no possibility of bribing at this point. So you can leave that out. Either way it's an exciting possibility. This is the make or break of the Tate saga. We will get to know it within a few months at most. Needless to say, it's beyond stupid to believe that Tate got arrested because of a pizza box. That has nothing to do with the arrest. This is the dumbest rumor which is purely speculation. -
Bobby_2021 replied to Onecirrus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Both fans and haters have only allegations/conspiracy theories. There has been no proof of anything whatsoever at all. All we can do is speculate. Even the pizza story is most likely made up by the internet. It was obvious that he was in his house just from the background.