Bobby_2021

Obsessing over safety is lame. We should venture ourselves into the unknown. It looks dangerous. But it's not. Just stop obsessing over safety. You are fearing a puppet dragon here. Real safety measures can be done only with trial and error. Not from knee jerk reactions.

Freedom is working to build new possibilities.

We have all seen some forms of spirituality where the gurus actively deny the thinking is somehow anti spiritual or you should just quiet your mind to have a more holistic view of reality. Even I entertained this idea for long that had been a huge cockblock in my enlightenment journey. Just take a moment to appreciate the absurdity of this claim 1) You claim that Truth cannot be communicated, but only experienced. 2) You are making a Truth claim. 3) You are communicating what you think is true. 4) You had to think to arrive at this conclusion, only for you to say that thinking is a-spiritual. Even religious dudes do not hold this level of contradiction in a single sentence. Even Sadhguru says you should merely let your mind come up with thoughts, but you could sit there in bliss while disidentifying from the chatter of the mind as a whole. This is totally unnecessary even if you want to avoid suffering. It is totally okay to identify with the mind, when you realize that everything is God and it is literally the imagination of God. It is so Freking obvious, yet I wasted a lot of time entertaining this stupid idea that you cannot describe or communicate Truth via language. To being with, you could never communicate anything with language. Language is merely ink on paper or pixels on a screen. Words are nothing but pointers. If you can have pointers to calculus and poems, of course you can have pointers to absolute or relative Truth or whatever you are dealing with. If thinking makes your life better or closer to god, then maybe God did intend you to think about God. It was you who thought of God's creating as a bug and not as a splendidly useful tool for creativity and imagination.

I cannot describe in words the mental peace I have got from realizing this.

Nope. But others will definitely see you are weird. That's the consequence of pursuing Truth in an untruthful society.

Talking about Truth is like talking about literally just anything.

Communication != Realization Communicating Truth doesn't mean that you will realize it. Is everyday communication perfect? Forget spirituality. Some things can be communicated. But not every thing will be communicated properly. I am asking you to entertain the possibility that it is indeed possible to communicate absolute Truth. If you say that Truth cannot be communicated, then you are clearly contradicting yourself. Because you are communicating Truth when you say that. Get it?

This is like saying if calculus can be communicated everyone should be world class mathematicians by now. Communicating Truth doesn't mean that you will be spoon fed Truth. It's on you to do the work if you want to realize Truth for yourself. Also different people have different talents, capabilities and interest. I can only communicate my Truth. I will talk about it. I will simply describe everything exactly as it is. I have no compulsion to make sense to you. It on you to do the work. It's like saying you can't describe what you see with a Telescope because others can see what you see because they lack something that you have. Of course you can describe what you see. And if it is from your experience, it is Truth. Simple as that. If others want to experience that Truth, they better put in the work.

Holding this level of contradiction in your head is not healthy for you in the least. Take care and avoid this big trap or else you will have to walk as if you have a stick up your ass.

Well I would definitely try to communicate colors to a blind person in poems or sounds or whatever. The thing is I can describe my Truth. I do not guarantee that everyone reading that should attain Truth. I never made a statement. Some people have enormous cycles of shit going on in their heads. Of course they would not understand Truth. If the blind dude is serious enough, he should acknowledge that there is Truth that I communicated that he did not quite get. So he should try getting to that Truth in whatever ways that is available to him. Maybe the communication of my Truth would inspire him to get to the nearest hospital and register for getting an eye, IT all depends on how badly you want it. Truth needs work. The point is you can communicate it. You can communicate mathematics and people will understand it. That is communication. I do not guarantee that everyone will understand it because people do not want it badly enough. Truth is hard even for people who seek it let alone for lazy mfers.

You need to think about reality if you need to understand it. And that is how it should be. You are chasing your own tail by entertaining stupid ideas like you can't communicate absolute Truth. Such statements come from people who do not understand the mechanics of Truth or communication or language. Just do not be weird or go insane. Think normally and you should be fine. Also spirituality is being as close to life as possible. And everything that God imagines is not only valid but also totally necessary and beautiful. All that God is doing is imagining up infinite configurations of imaginations including the thinking of the finite mind. God is also imagining thinking. You should think and develop a model of the world that is so robust that eventually burst apart that the only accurate model of the world you can have is pure reality itself. The non dual shit heads are trying to cut short this process which explains why they are walking with so much pain, especially for people who cannot shut up their mind with some whacky asanas or something. The mind and thinking is absolutely necessary. Just do not act weirdly or get into a paradigm lock like that of science or religion. Avoid such traps.

Leo will you ever run out of topics to talk about?

This is an excellent place to rant. Not just insights to be honest lol. As with my insights, they are not easy to communicate since they are hyper intellectual and complicated. A lot of ground work may be necessary to communicate them so I am postponing them to a later time when I am more gounded and whole.

I am so tired of human bullshit. I have lately become aware of the sheer size of bullshit that is surrounding my psyche and the enormous suffering it is causing me, thanks to the time I have spent in solitude. The suffering is so high that it is unbearable. I do not have any clue how anyone would live in constant contact with other humans which are nothing more than bullshit spinning creatures. So I have decided to curb my bullshit intake for an indefinite amount of time. Which means I will interact with human bullshit as least as possible. If I come in contact with bullshit I will drive myself insane. I also need to recover from all the crap that been pumped into my head over the years that made me lose my authentic individual self. I do not write a personal journal or blog so I am going to use this as my personal wiring. All my personal notes are filled with abstract Truths of nature, ironically. Actualized.org YouTube and blog. Sadhguru And Educational content that I have to watch to advance my career. Sg and Leo takes care enough to not go out of their way to indoctrinate others with bullshit so I could watch them. And I do have to work on my career so I am going to have to consume a lot of technical content. If I have to come in contact with bullshit with no choice, then I will have to bear it I guess. It is making me puke seeing the sheer size of bullshit that humans shit around. There is tons of bullshit in this forum as well. So I will definitely not be dealing with it for a long period of time. I am not sure if can read anything even slightly retarded at this point.

He simply made a decision to play at home instead of Playing infront of 100 people. The physical and mental labour, creativity and talent involved in both scenarios was the same. You can even assume that they guy playing at home had more talent and creativity that choose to play infront of 100 people. That's why the *decisions* to invest labour is what makes all the difference. Not labour itself. Labour do not generate value. Labour itself has some inherent value. Value generation is basically betting or investing value that already existed. Decision to allocate that value makes all the difference.

Traditional societies are high on indoctrination. And women are more vulnerable to being indorctinated. But as societies get wealthier women get a lot of freedom from this indoctrination while men still are bogged down by unrealistic expectations from society while also claiming that women somehow deserve equal power as men in society. This gives women, on average, a higher privilege than men, on average. Keyword is "on average".

Fundamentally money is value and value is abstract and not physical. It's emotional. In real terms, money is debt or promise or loans or bet. If you are lending money, you are betting. If you are taking a debt, you are promising. Betting that value will be added in economy or promising that value will be added in the economy. Money can be added in society only by delivering value. (And printing papers, at the cost of inflation). Money is like mathematics. An abstract representation of value. Just like numbers are not physical objects, money is also not a physical objects. Money is purely numbers backed by nothing but trust. Massive addition of value is deflationary, like AI, while massive destruction of value is inflationary.

Good. now think more of the situation from here. It may get slightly complicated. Two things can happen as a result of taking loan. Either you can pay back the money with interest. OR you won't pay back the money in it's entirety. If you do not pay back the money, the result is inflation. Which means that the "money" added to the economy will reduce the value of money itself in the economy. So what's being added to the economy by giving out a loan is just paper. Not actual value. And of course, you can get a printer and pump as much money you want into the economy. Which is essentially what taking a loan is. Society and the banks is betting on you to deliver. If you want to take a loan for a shitty business idea, they will not give you a loan because it is a risky bet for them. Students for stem degrees get a loan because banks know that they will pay them back with interest. You can pay them back with interest only if you deliver X amount of value, to the economy. Failing to deliver that is inflation. Money printing (loans) will result in inflation, unless that value is not added to the economy. Inflation is literally absolute prices of good rising, since there is more absolute money in the economy without an equivalent amount of value that was added to it. In other words, society will have to pay your loans, in case you did not pay. Society pays for failed bets in the form of inflation.

I wonder why human beings need self development work. We should already be behaving maturely and wise even without any self deve work at all.

If you can accept that thinking is also labour then we can agree. But that would also mean that some people are simply valuable by birth since they have talent and creativity that would make them better than others. I wouldn't associate inherent value to human beings different from each other.

You take relevancy for granted here. Figuring out what is value is relevancy. Let's we both have two labourers. If I generate more value from one labourer, then it's me who created more value by figuring out where to invest my labour resources. ------ Reminds me of the story of a ship mechanic who was called up to repair a gigantic ship. The mechanic came and asked them for a hammer. He came up to the ship and hit the corner of the ship with it and fixed the issue with it. When he asked for a huge pay all of them were surprised since he didn't do anything apparently. He told them that he is being paid for the knowledge of what tools to use, where and how. Not for the labour he did. ---- Yes. Money can be thought of as debt. Debt you take from the future. It's a promise that you will add x amount of value to the economy. And the economy is placing a bet on you to deliver that value.

Indeed. My social frame is a little weak the moment. I need to make more mental constructions to filter the social nonsense. I have postponed working on it for a while. ?? Savouring that is addicting. Love when even little interactions turn into memories for a lifetime, or atleast for 6 months. ?

I would avoid as much people as reasonably possible to work on myself. But there will always be some situation where I have to deal with them for a day or two. That is a lot of time. And the price I pay in my top values during that time affects my productivity at which I used to work, had I not socialized. So do you have any tips to prevent the degradation of your own originality and integrity while in social groups? One thing I tried to do is to put on the "philosopher role" while in social groups. I question what I see, people and groups and their meaning. So that brings relief for a while and I find myself dealing with crap a while later. Does anyone know how to deal with this? Leo also touched upon this in the How Socialization makes you stupid video where he warned about the dangers of socialization.

As if Islam allows him to sell pimp courses, smoke and consume alcohol and tattoos. ? All these are explicitly banner in Islam. He never cares about being religious. He is running a show and you fell for it. This is the experience of a close associate of Tate. He doesn't stand up to his own morals on free speech/censorship or even religious morality. It's all empty words. ? That's some good humour.