Bobby_2021

Any updates on this?

Do you see any difference between the visual experience of a tree and a cat? Are there two letters the same or different? A B - Different B B - Same This difference exists in the visual experience. You can choose to build on top of it by conceptualizing. ----- When I say I make distinctions what I mean is that I imagine a distinction in my mind. Visual experience is God's mind. I can recognize and conceptualize that in my human mind. All minds are capable of coming up with distinction. The human mind itself is a distinction imagined by the mind of God.

The words you are seeing on a screen are distinctions in reality.

Reality is the imagination of distinctions. That's what I am trying to get with this thread. I see Nothing but distinctions. And it's not mental constructions, although those are made up of distinctions as well. There is nothing behind the veil. Veil is the thing. I can get behind this. Distinctions are fundamentally a thought in the mind of God. Distinctions can also be imagined in the human mind. That's already a distinction. Whaaat?? A tree is a car because tree is different from a cat. And that's not a language gane here. I am talking about an actual car and an actual tree. Those are Distinctions thought of in the mind of God. Physical reality is composed of distinctions. Good analogy. I am still racking my head over this. Well said. Definitely something to conemp over a long time.

There are too many da Vinci Quotes that I like so posting a pdf here. davinci quotes.pdf

Where do you want this thread to go? This thread is for covering the legal aspects of the Tate case, evidence, his statements and it's future course. If you don't discuss facts here, then the default case is someone spreading disinformation from Tate which are nothing but embarrassing lies. This thread is far from dead. If you really understood this, it's only beginning since the investigation isn't even over. More serious charges are pending. Perhaps this thread will be dead when they are convicted.Which is my speculation after looking at the case. --- Talking about Trump isn't a derailment. They are members of the Tate camp, aka the Far right. Even the supposed right wing but non Trump supporters have shunned Tate. This includes the people covering the case. They are not left wing, but surprisingly right wing. The left camp is still triggered about his misogyny statements lol. That's a distraction since he did far more heinous things which are not even known outside.

Can you give me such an interpretation of the God's mind, independent of distinctions? And perception is Truth. Perceptions are distinctions imagined by God. I didn't use any complex logical statements enough to deconstruct here. It's impossible to imagine a reality independent of distinctions

It looks more like you need a rest from Leo. ?

The charges are not yet finalized. Charges related to minor trafficking and money laundering are pending and they will soon be charged. The formal investigation began only in April 2022. They have not finished the investigation. It's good to remain neutral and see facts without emotions. There is plenty of evidence available in the public domain and some of them is available in this thread and the resources for knowing more about them are mentioned here. The trial will take time. Things move slow here. The trial should take place in October by the earliest or by early 2024.

He has been charged with human trafficking in continued form, rape in continued form, and forming an organized criminal gang. It's been two months. Here are the charges for Andrew and Tristan. Second set of charges are incoming soon. These charges one could be the biggest blow by far for Team Tate since it's expected to be about 1) Minor Trafficking. 2) Money laundering. 3) Favouring the perpetrators. 4) Influencing statements. Imagine even being investigated for trafficking minors for making pornographic content. It's so over. Any public figure that even remotely supports him is not going to judged well. It's so bad, like supporting J.Epstein. Nothing short of reputational suicide. Not even close. The court evaluated the brothers net worth to be 10 mill. That's the total assets for two people as found by the court. At best there were a few months where he earned a lot from HU, around a couple of millions/month. He was putting a facade for the most part. Highly likely that he rented his planes and yacht. To remain truly neutral requires a lot of work. Giving Tate the benefit of doubt is not being neutral. There hasn't been any competent authority speaking up for Tate's opposition. He had unanimous control over the narrative.

It's so over bros.

Such sort of corporate & employee agreements do not work in any other country. So the state need to step in on behalf of the employee to mandate min wages.

They do have minimums wage implemented through agreements with the workers as said in the article. Corporations do get bailed out by govt so it's okay to mandate a min wage. It's long gone when min wage should be doubled.

Recently I read a post by Leo that pursuing a life of higher development must come with high cost. You have to put up with lots of suffering. What I thought was that suffering is a bug in reality. That something that you are doing is fundamentally wrong when you are suffering. Do you miss out on Life by suffering? Does pursuing the Good life by extraordinary levels of suffering come with significant rewards? Should you try to minimise suffering? What is the correct way to suffer? Should you let yourself suffer endlessly or should you call ut quit? Thoughts?

It's important to see that you are addicted to this drama, non sense and bullshit. Not at the God level, but at the human personal level. You kind of like suffering like a masochist. The kind of experience and little treats that you get from suffering. That makes yourself too attached to suffering, even while suffering is totally imaginary in this game of life that God imagine. It's like deducting points from the game or something silly like that. Suffering exists as a part of the game, which serves as a crucial compenent to make it real. If you were totally liberated from suffering, you wouldn't want to do that, you would want tot go back to imagining Suffering. ---- These are just my musings. @DefinitelyNotARobot nothing is being put on a pedestal. This is merely questioning and contemplating the nature of suffering. Suffering is an integral part of life and it is better that we address that it doesn't become a thorn in the ass later. Entire spiritual systems have been made solely to escape suffering. So it's better to take control and understand suffering for what it is than getting lost in ideologies inspired by escaping suffering.

Posting all my thoughts from contemplating suffering: Suffering is a an important feature in the imagination of reality by God to make it real. Which is why it's so hard to get anything done, things always go sideways, and life is just pain no matter whatever you do. You can never escape from the costs even if go obsess every single fibre of your to living correctly. There is just endless suffering. Suffering is simply imagined by God for no real reason, actually. It simply is imagined as a feature of reality to make it more real. There need not be any cause and effect between suffering and the things that causes suffering. Even that relationship is imaginary and wouldn't exist unless imagined. I think a worthwhile life is when you have a lot of ups and downs. Suffer a lot as well as enjoy a lot. Suffering is like a cost. And you can reduce the net cost by restricting yourself from engaging in transactions at all. And you can maximize the value from those few transactions you actually engage in. I think a conservative worldview is the best if you want to completely mitigate suffering. Amd you can have a bit of joy as well occasionally. The entire conservative setup is so nice if you think about it. And most of these liberal are also conservative who happened to be slightly more privileged, so don't get lost in the conservative vs liberal fallacy.

Closer to my point. Using taxis instead of owning a car is a step away from car centric culture. But that's doesn't need a lot of money. That's way cheaper than owning a car.

Sure. But you might still get your car toed to some dump yard, stuck in traffic and struggle to find parking spaces. Move to a non car centric city. You cannot buy your way out of anxiety.

The only long term solution is to move away from car centric culture as a whole. It's a structural problem within canada/us.

I would talk to Da Vinci. No one else I admire more than him. I would like to see him work to see what fueled his unquenchable curiosity. Apart from that I would like to know about emperor and evaluate their level of development and see how low it can go. There should be some astounding realizations in there.

I am not saying it's going to happen, but just imagine if he is charged and convicted for trafficking minors. A good portion of RW has doubled down on their support for Tate. There is good chance that they will go down too in case he gets convicted for those charges.

Life is a lot about mistakes, contradictions, and tradeoffs. It's impossible to satisfy your idealistic self. And that's kind of the problem with life, it's finiteness and thinking that you have missed out and feeling like you lost it. I am only making peace with it myself. Having everything perfect would be too boring and you would seek out more hell and challenges. Plenty of people would qualify as the "loser", whatever your standards of it are. But that may not mean they have lost. After all it's mistakes and learning from them is what life is all about.

What kind of jobs?

Far better predictor of being fat is caloric intake. After than comes genetic tendencies. Genetic tendencies become a significant predictor only in a small number of cases. Like real medical cases. Not a mere predisposition to getting fat. For me I used to be 60kg. I just increased my caloric intake to add 15kg over a year. Now it has rather stabilised. *Caloric intake.*

Isn't his cognitive decline a concern for you? He can barely do basic chores. Trump is going to wreck him in the public debate, if there is one.