Bobby_2021

I would engage in detailed discussions only if you want to actually discuss something with facts and examples and make progress. Most people just want to talk over each other, pigeon hole ideas and throw accusations. My mind is too sensitive & sophisticated to indulge in this shit. If there is something I want to talk about I would rather do it in a new thread rather than arguing about it in the posts. In posts I would rather make one or two line statements that doesn't mean much. No more detailed discussions, unless you first prove that you are serious.

It's not an extreme. Society is a indeed a house of cards and is highly sensitive to foreign interference. See the disruption caused by migration in "highly developed" countries like Sweden. Their streets are turning into a shit show and crimes have gone upto the roof. All this happened simply by accepting a bunch of foreigners. Now imagine if the foreigners came to a country with lots of power and funding and wants to intentionally destabilize a society for nefarious purpose. They would absolutely do it. Think about the insane corrupting effect of hamas on Israel. They regressed all the way to a freaking genocide simply by a foreign interference. So yeah society is a house of cards that have to be maintained. This is why you can bring a society to it's knees by criminal domination and subtle ways of destabilization like migration. Infact unchecked migration is a tool in CIA's playbook to destabilize a nation from the inside out. This will lead to the regression in development of the society as a whole.

Thanks Grandpa. We will miss you and the dementia memes. Happy retirement.

What a cringe fest.

These reports don't evoke any shock anymore. It's like it's a daily occurrence.

At the end of the day results matter. Is he a con man if he delivered results?

@hoodrow trillson Steve was pretty overrated. He was a genius marketer and had command over people. Wozniak is who powered him from behind. Steve and Elon are pretty similar in that regard.

@nerdspeak Read a couple of your previous posts. You did an incredible job at explaining something so incredibly sophisticated and difficult to grasp. Most people denying the reality is because they are shielded from realizing the true enormity of the subtle exploitations going on. Good job.

@Rafael Thundercat Let's not assume that the jungle people were "developed in their own way". It's okay to assume they were underdeveloped. It's just that development takes freedom from interference over long time. Else it will only lead to regression. This is why the west is adamant on the Monore doctrine. Not a single power could assert it's influence on the entire western hemisphere. Because interference would result in their decades of developmental efforts plunge into shambles.

@Space Based on my conversations is there something I could have done better?

@Space WhatsApp and Instagram were making losses in hundreds of millions or close to a billion, even after it was acquired. It was bleeding money before the acquisition too to the point of unsustainability. It had to be acquired by FB to reach where it is today. The issue you are raising about Musk is not what we were talking about. He was emphasizing vision while I was saying that he was better at management & execution. Look back at earlier conversations. Your points are agreeing with mine that Musk is a better manager that could induce some order to a badly managed company. Is this a court order?

"Corruption existed before western intervention". Wow what a brilliant observation. I didn't see it coming at all. What I mean is that such societies have corruption & underdevelopment in them **exclusively by western intervention**. I proved it with n number of examples, which you might perceive as noise when you are overflowing with alien consciousness. I am not backing down to titillate his Ego. Both of us cannot be right at the same time.

It takes more vision to light a spark from scratch than for that scratch to become a wildfire. Musk had a vision. But the foundation was already set for him, more or less. Growing a company from scratch needs more vision than coming in between and taking it over. If Musk wants credit for Vision, he should have founded a company rather than playing corporate politics to oust their visionary founder. Are you going to say that Zuckerberg is a visionary for buying up WhatsApp and Instagram when they were making losses and getting it to be billions in profit later lmao? Consider that my noise in this thread which is far below your alien consciousness. I don't want to deal with your triggered response. The only self deception I did was to think that you were open minded and open to considering multiple perspectives and only because you marketed yourself as such. You are no different than Musk lol.

The most funny thing of all is people accusing me of being leftist/progressive while I am a right leaning individual in most of my takes. I simply have to acknowledge correct things from either perspectives. Damn stop getting so triggered. I am not a leftist.

@Leo Gura Again I don't tolerate factual errors. It's okay to admit that Musk took someone's else's vision and executed it to perfection. It's the same story with Jobs and Wozniak. Does emphasising Wozniak takes away something from Jobs? I guess yeah. That's a balanced perspective. Emphasizing Martin take away something from Musk too. At the same time Musk is also a genius. You have to be comfortable with that. You get so touchy when you don't get to frame things the way exactly you want it to perfection. Jeez. I asked you simple questions for which you had no answer. It was a simple question, which I will ask again. Was X country better or worse from Y country intervention? I discussed historical examples for X and Y which are all noise to you. You merely throw accusations and claims to authority. Cheap.

WTF Leo. I just gave you a fact. It was not Musk's vision. It was not his company. It's just a fact I pulled from wikipedia. That doesn't take away what he did with it. He managed the company brilliantly. But it was not his idea. It was someone else's idea which he executed brilliantly. You cannot make factual errors and blame for me being dogmatic while I point it out. I even included his wikipedia page ffs.

If you are working at Tesla in California, you would lose 50% to taxes and and another 20% in rent, food & basic amenities. So the difference is not that much as you think. And inflation is only getting worse in US so be prepared to deal with it. Else Musk would simply move his production to China like you do in a free and fair open market.

Tesla was not Musks brain child. He just came in between and took control of the company. It was Martin Eberhard's vision & innovation. It's Musk who threw him under the bus by playing corporate politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Eberhard

That's too simplistic. CCP went enormous lengths to own the entire supply chain of EVs. Every single screw of production is owned by China. US couldn't even dream of it since individuals are supposed to compete for everything like in crony capitalism. Eventually loses to China in the long term. There is a lot more to it in how they balance competition. And also little money can afford you a good life in China. This is also because of state intervention. Take the cost of housing for example. While upper class liberals manipulate the "free markets" to inflate the prices. China is building a surplus of housing unites for their people thay houses are empty. In US you would lose your salary to some upper class white woman who is renting you her house. So high cost of living is a result of crony Capitalism. China doesn't have that problem.

Leftism doesn't need to undo the capitalist structure as a whole. Capitalism can run just as Musk runs his company. But the disproportionate rewards he gets from his company has to be redistributed for common good. Closer to the chinese model. China is already better in making cheap high quality EVs than all companies in US including Tesla. This is only possible by an ambitious state intervention. Not just ambitious individuals. These people are genetic freaks. They will keep working their ass off anyway. They are not running behind money. They can get rewarded a little less and things would just be fine.

Don't insult me by Pigeon holing my takes into the trash progressive ideology. Atleast pigeon hole me correctly. As a Russian propagandist. 😀 Progressives only admit explicit colonial exploitation. British in India, Israel in Palestine etc. Neo colonial exploitation flies over their heads. It's the conservative people who speak against western intervention in any meaningful way. Look how Trump deals with North Korea, Russia etc. These needless sanctions imposed on these countries only suffocate the average folks. Not their overlords. But it's the progressives who wanted to punish Russia, NK with sanctions. Not the republicans or conservatives.

These two are freaking demons. Bibi should be an angel compared to them

The point is she will not learn from her mistakes. The institutions in this country is going through a collective brain rot. If you don't take aggressive action now to correct it, it will lead to people losing faith in institutions. Just look at the SS chicks scrambling to hold a gun lol. This is not a minor mistake. This is a collosal mistake.

Putin robbing the country is better than Americans robbing your country. You have to understand that modern capitalism is designed to siphon wealth to United States and their allies, while you get pennies for cheap labour. Atleast with Putin, the money stays in Russia. Why do you think they wanted to expand NATO into Ukraine? Hint: BlackRock already owns land in Ukraine.

A lot of things happened for 5000000 years. If that is significant to the issue of interest, feel free to talk about it. Or address it when it is being talked about. Not only you don't bring up any larger context, but dismiss and deny when it is being bought about. None of this changes that fact that UKRAINE IS ASTRONOMICALLY WORSE OFF AFTER WESTERN INTERVENTION THAN BEFORE IT. Whatever little pesky corruption issue they had would have disappeared over time, had the west not poked it's nose into it. Now you don't even need added context to see that.