Bobby_2021

I'll be cool with it either way as long as they do not resell it. Transfomative work is fine for me, including training AI. YT reaction videos come under transfomative work. The monetization is made on the *transformed* work, NOT your work. Infact the the degree of transformation is incredible with AI --- Think about AI like a glorified google search engine. Google could charge you for searching already. It's not like search automatically happens out of the blue. AI is allowing you to search through the hive mind, for a fee. It's a better search engine. We are not yet at that place where AI companies are swimming through piles of cash. It's a bubble.

How strong is the coffee you guys drink? Do you use Sugar? Are you okay with it tasting Bitter? For me I love coffee, but I was never addicted to it nor will be.

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I can access humanity's hive mind and gain insights from it for 20$/mo. It's a steal in my opinion. Value I gain >> Value I lose In return, they could take my data. Now I know they could turn on milking mode in future. But a lot more things might happen in future that could democratise AI.

Working for free doesn't mean wage slave position. It means working for the greater good of humanity. You have built a channel while working essentially for free. It's not like you got paid for creating videos on YT compared to other stuff you could have been doing. That is what I mean too. At the end of the day, all that matters is maximising the value for humanity.

I wouldn't have any problems working for free given that I can survive first. So me getting paid so that I can survive is the greater good for humanity.

Valid points. I do agree that it's theft. And a few more thoughts. 1. Anyhow you need to keep the investor money flowing to fund the research & development. None of these AI companies are hardly profitable and wound not be anytime soon. Paying for creators first would almost certainly halt the development as a whole. 2. If you respected copyright law and payed for every reasearch paper, College textbooks then it would be literally impossible for most people to do research. Some of these laws are trash in my opinion. 3. As a small creator I feel like I have gotten plenty of value from AI already. So that is how the creators get "paid". And the world will get more value for a lesser price over the course of my lifetime as I create more stuff with AI. The real beneficiaries are the creators at the end of the day. 4. As far as corporatism is considered, we should acknowledge the devils and take measures to counter them with all we have got. Some open source models are flattening the competition. Maybe if we can optimise the AI enough to run on local machines such that you have full ownership over your own AI, you can fend off the corporatism.

Bro tone down reporting on everything India. There are more interesting things going on.

This is nothing close to what AI is doing and we already discussed this prior. You will ruin the Disney brand with your shitty printer. You may be effectively destroying value here. AI is taking your content and transforming it to something that cannot be tracked back to the original source. And you are not addressing the net value that AI is adding to humanity. This is the most important point in my opinion. Some theft should be allowed if it results in far greater good, which is the case here.

@Something Funny I have said this before and I will say it again. Just because there no source is provided for my arguments does not mean what I am saying is false. Providing a source for my arguments does not make it true either. You are fixated on "sauce" because you don't have a decent way to refute my claims. Period.

Soon enough, with a little bit of compute resources, you can have the entire hive mind of humanity in your fingertips, completely offline. You can contemplate with it and talk to it about absolutely anything. Incredible. How cool is that? Imagine how fast your workflow would get. Imagine the cool things that people will make out of it. Let us say you indeed put a price tag on your IP. Now check if you are getting that moneys worth from AI. Think about this thing all over again.

Now that the international community is well aware of it, we have to wait and watch how long are they able to continue this.

The people of Ukraine do not want to fight a losing war. This is common sense. They are saying it all over social media. They are deserting the military in record numbers. Please go study more on the situation. This is somewhat complicated how countries position their nuclear doctrine. Ask yourself why the west is not allowing Ukraine for deep strikes into Russia? Why? Because it will result in nuclear annihilation. There is more to the story, but take me on faith if you are hesitant to do the work to realize this. What else can I say?

If we gatekeep our intellectual work, then we would not be getting AI at all. With AI, your creative potential is now 10x than without AI. At the end of the day, it is the normal folks like you and me that benefit from AI. And the general public will benefit even more from the work that we produce from AI, even though they may not use AI directly. So the benefits from having AI outweighs the benefit from not having AI, for humanity as a whole. Why would you deny humanity from having this value? I see it as a chance to influence the super hive mind, even thought we are at the initial stages. This is the easiest way to preserve your work for eternity rather than protect it with bullshit copyright laws. Anyway that is just me. I want AI to use my work to make it better, and in turn use AI to produce better work in lesser time. Upward Spiral. Most AI companies are running on investments at the moment and they are taking heavy losses to run this thing. There is no direct path to profit in sight. So it is safe to say that the common folks get way more benefit from AI tools as compared to the losses for having the AI being trained on your IP.

damn now imagine leveling an industrialized country to rubble first. And then sanctioning them.

North Korea was better off before 1950. Does that mean that now Communism was better?

Guys this is a great thread made for a specific thing and it is an invaluable resource. Please post the news related elsewhere. Thanks.

Did it thanks.

This war literally killed us all. Nobody realizes this. We were this close to getting nuked. There is only two places in the world right now that want to drag the rest of the world into a war. Israel and Ukraine. We are talking about a full blown nuclear war combined with automated preemptive strikes that will result in collective destruction. I am begging people to understand the magnitude of the problem that we are dealing with. This is not the time to score points. I thought that people will come back to their senses when their survival is threatened, but naah. Basically his peace plan is a full blown nuclear annihilation. nice joke fr. Man.

Why are you posting unrelated stuff on this thread? Kindly hide/delete.

Do not even get me started. They are willing to sacrifice Ukrainian lives for pointless war based on nothing more than lies and lies. And I do sympathize with most the of the stage green folks whose only source of information is legacy media. This is why it is so impressive. The scale of the propaganda. They do not even hide it sometimes and so flagrantly selfish as fuck. https://youtu.be/6XFKO4eDKZc?si=rkZaWeySIao1_y6V

I just do not have enough energy to counter lies and western propaganda. What I have said is in the best interests of the common people of Ukraine. Do you care about the people of Ukraine? Most of them are willing to trade in territories for not fighting a war for neocons on the other side of globe. Why is this so hard to get? Because you all do not care about the people of Ukraine. That is the fundamental problem. "When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus." - Turkish Proverb

1. Unconditional Surrender. 2. Give up NATO aspirations. 3. Give up the land that currently occupied by Russia. 4. Also remove the illegitimate president while you are at it. It is time for new elections and his term is over. Resistance is futile. This is the land that has trillions of dollars worth of rare earth minerals. Russia and China will make use of it now. US Fucked up big time. Bad policy has a price to pay. Pay the price and move on. Accepting the Truth is hard. What else can you do. I predicted this exactly on Feb of 2022. But then I was a "Russian propagandist". Now nearly 3 years later, West backed Ukraine is scrapping the bottom of the barrel. The west got high on their own arrogance thinking they can collapse Russia with sanctions and Ukraine can win. All of those were bullshit. Hey I know how bad things are. It is very bad. 10x worse than what is being reported. And it will only get worse.

The people of Ukraine will agree with me. The mothers of Ukraine agrees with me. The common men of Ukraine agrees with me. I speak for the Ukrainian people. Not the rouge regime who wants to sell his own country to their capitalist overlords. The people of Ukraine would hate you if you say anything that prolongs the war. Which is what your current policy is. You absolutely do not have the moral ground here. You have lost it long ago.