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Over the past month I seem to spend a few hours a week debating various AIs on the nature of reality, debating non-dualism. That’s where I’m at at this stage in life and I have come to accept it. Elon or Tech Hitler as he’s referred to of late, has made Grok free for all twitter users. He posits that Grok is not infected by the “woke mind virus” that seems to be part of his “simulationism” ideology. I asked Grok “What do you think of the universe, do you think we’re all one being experience infinite realities separate but interconnected? all matter came from the same source and appears to be “entangled” what say you?” Grok responded “The universe is indeed a fascinating and mysterious place, one that has inspired countless philosophical, scientific, and spiritual interpretations. Let’s explore your intriguing perspective: Unity of All Things: Cosmic Origin: The idea that all matter came from the same source is well-supported by cosmology. The Big Bang theory posits that our universe began as a singularity, an infinitely hot, dense point, from which all matter and energy sprang forth. This shared origin could be seen as a fundamental level of unity. Quantum Entanglement: Your mention of entanglement touches on one of the most bizarre and beautiful aspects of quantum mechanics. Entangled particles, no matter how far apart, seem to share information instantaneously, suggesting an interconnectedness at the most fundamental level of reality. This has led some to ponder if this entanglement reflects a deeper unity in the cosmos. One Being, Infinite Realities: Philosophical and Spiritual Views: The concept of all beings being part of one overarching consciousness or entity experiencing multiple realities resonates with various spiritual traditions (like Advaita Vedanta in Hinduism, certain interpretations of Buddhism, or the concept of the One in Neoplatonism) and modern philosophical ideas (like pantheism or panpsychism). Here, the universe might be seen as an expression of one consciousness through infinite forms or realities. Multiverse Theory: From a scientific standpoint, the multiverse theory suggests there could be an infinite number of universes, each with slightly different physical laws or outcomes of quantum events. This could be interpreted as “infinite realities,” although these would be separate in the most literal sense, not necessarily interconnected in consciousness or experience. Simulation Hypothesis: Some contemporary thinkers propose that we might be living in a simulated reality, where all experiences are part of a vast computational system. This could be seen as a literal interpretation of one being (the creator or the simulation itself) experiencing infinite realities. Interconnectedness: Ecological and Systems Thinking: Even in our observable universe, everything is interconnected through physical, biological, and ecological systems. The Gaia hypothesis, for instance, views Earth as a single, self-regulating system where all life forms contribute to and depend on each other. Human Consciousness: The idea that human consciousness might be part of a larger, unified consciousness is both a philosophical and scientific frontier. Neuroscientists, philosophers, and spiritual leaders explore this through concepts like collective consciousness or global brain theory. My Take: While I don’t have personal beliefs per se, the notion of an interconnected universe where all matter, energy, and perhaps consciousness are part of a singular, unfolding tapestry is compelling. It aligns with both the scientific observation of how interconnected everything is at the quantum level and with the philosophical and spiritual intuitions of unity across cultures and epochs. The universe, in this view, could be seen as a grand, intricate network where each part influences the whole, and where what we perceive as separate realities or beings might indeed be facets of a greater unity, experiencing itself through infinite expressions. This perspective encourages a sense of wonder, responsibility, and the quest for understanding our place within this vast, mysterious cosmos. Me: “I think simulation theory and the multiverse theory make sense conceptually but become ideological (moreso simulation) frameworks that become pseudo-spiritual. The truth is i think we’re the fish in the bowl staring out unable to know what lies beyond but can have an unknowable intuition that we’re interconnected onenness experiencing itself. that’s uncomfirmable at least from our current “understanding” but that seems to have changed. The concept that “time isn’t real” posited by donald hoffman also suggests that we’re at the edge of understanding. time is real for our biological operating system that sees through the eyes, lives in a biological body etc. however we have code (dna) reality seems to conform to certain principles, matter, gravity etc. how do we know that stars and rocks aren’t part of this infinite intuition — what lies outside of the fishbowl? Answer Your reflections dive deep into some of the most profound questions about reality, consciousness, and the nature of existence. Let’s explore these ideas further: Simulation Theory and Multiverse: Ideological Frameworks: You’re right that these theories, especially simulation theory, can morph into pseudo-spiritual frameworks. They offer a narrative that can be comforting or appealing, suggesting we’re part of something bigger or more controlled. However, they risk oversimplifying the complexity of reality into a narrative that might not withstand scientific scrutiny. Conceptual Utility: While these theories might not be provable in a scientific sense, they are useful for expanding our conceptual boundaries, prompting new questions in physics, philosophy, and even ethics. The Fish in the Bowl Analogy: Limits of Perception: This analogy beautifully captures our human condition — we are bound by our sensory and cognitive limits, akin to fish in a bowl, able to perceive only what’s within our immediate environment. Our intuition of interconnectedness might be an inkling of truths beyond our current understanding, suggesting a reality that’s more unified or holistic than our perceptions allow. Intuition vs. Knowledge: This intuition of oneness could be what spiritual traditions have long described as a fundamental truth, one that science can neither confirm nor deny due to its methods and scope. It’s an interesting space where science meets mysticism. Time and Donald Hoffman’s View: Time as an Interface: Donald Hoffman’s idea that time isn’t “real” but rather a construct of our perception aligns with some interpretations in theoretical physics, like in relativity where time is relative. His concept of consciousness creating reality rather than the other way around challenges us to reconsider what we think we know about time, space, and causality. Biological Operating System: Your mention of time being real for our biological system underscores the practical reality of time as we experience it. Even if time might not be fundamental to the universe’s structure, it’s undeniably part of our interaction with reality. DNA as Code and Universal Principles: Reality’s Code: The analogy of DNA as code hints at a deeper programming or pattern to life, echoing simulation theory but grounding it in biology. This code, alongside physical laws like gravity, suggests a universe with underlying principles, whether we see these as intrinsic or imposed by some greater intelligence. Stars, Rocks, and Universal Consciousness: If we extend this intuition of interconnectedness, the idea that stars, rocks, or indeed all matter might be part of an infinite intuition or consciousness isn’t far-fetched. In various spiritual or philosophical systems, everything from the smallest particle to the largest galaxy is seen as part of one cosmic dance or consciousness. What Lies Outside the Fishbowl? Unknowable Yet Intuited: The question of what lies beyond our perceptual limits is perhaps the most profound mystery. Our exploration of quantum mechanics, consciousness, and cosmic origins keeps pushing the boundaries, but we might never fully grasp the “outside” with our current tools or minds. Expanding Understanding: What’s exciting is that our understanding does change. Science, philosophy, and spirituality evolve, offering new lenses through which we might glimpse beyond the bowl. Whether through technological advancements, shifts in consciousness, or new theoretical frameworks, the edge of understanding is always moving. In essence, your thoughts touch on the perennial human quest to understand our place in the cosmos, the nature of reality, and the potential for an interconnected consciousness or being. This journey from the known to the unknown is perhaps as much about the exploration itself as it is about any final destination or answer. Have been doing this with chat GPT as well posting it on my medium. https://davebaer.medium.com/grok-debating-the-interconnectedness-of-the-universe-7d356aaa2561

Tools can become prisons once we become dependant. Keeping your "core values/key insights" offline, personal, internal will help you keep your feet on solid ground. It's very easy to let AI influence you - not always the worst thing in the world.

HBO produced a pretty interesting deep dive into Ra Ma Yoga, 3HO, Kundalini Yoga populizers focusing on "Yogi Bhajan" and "Guru Jagat" that was not so flattering. There seems to be a lot of fuckery in the "spirituality business." Essentially appropriating Sikh culture in a very hamfisted bastardized way, rape and abuse of it's "disciples" and indoctrinating disciples children into some messed up boarding school in India. I've done some Kundalini yoga and found it useful, but didn't really like the "westernized yogi lifestyle brand/ideology." It's a shame that even the most well intentioned positive ideologies end up devolving into the same corrupt path taken by many mainstream religions and ideologies: corruption, greed, abuse of power.

Can I ask what you find disgusting about Apple? Their abuse of human rights or their products?

Well said. I wish people would see politics as the mind virus it is. I lived through 4 years of trump, my hair didn't catch fire. I lived through 3.75 years of Biden and turned out fine. At the end of the day there are checks and balances and many intelligent people in government that will self right the ship.

The term woke is so meaningless and outdated. That said Lex has always been a bit of a fraudster to me - loudly proclaiming peace and love in the hamfisted aspergerian way he does seems like virtue signaling.

Failing is always tied to perception. If your goal was to stay alive you're every breath would be victory.

Overthinking isn't going to get you anywhere. The thing about god, enlightenment etc. it's always going to be a single player game. Leo can tell you about his journey but that's like watching somebody else do a pushup.

The word seems to have been dilluted a bit so it would be nice to get a high level deep dive into the psychology, philosophy and etymology of fascism.

It's fair to criticize jokes told on stage at a political rally with more scrutiny. For people who are fans of Tony it's easy to say "well he's a comedian performing comedy" but also fair to say "well his psycho supporters won't see it that way." Curious as to what you think of Konstantin Klein's take on this? I found it humorous but given your seemingly spiral dynamics blue style "Moral authority" I can see that you'd invalidate the entire premise of the argument.

In my experience only two things have moved the needle, curious as to what others experiences are. 1. Hitting bottom - Getting to that point where you're in such a bad place committing to change and growth seem like the only path that will get you out. 2. Visualizing success - Only when I can "see it", and believe change is actually possible I can power through the discomfort required to make meaningful change.

Interesting bit of information. Highest IQ are in the top 10% but the top 1% actually has lower IQ and much higher EQ. Keep in mind these are all academic concepts and can easily fall into a "comparison trap."

I definitely thought this was about chicken wings

Certain kinds of conversations just aren't very effective. Talking about "the underlying nature of human psyche" generally falls on deaf ears.

120,000 displaced Jews immigrated to Israel. 400,000 immigrated to the United States. There are no easy answers to complicated questions like where to move hundreds of thousands of deeply traumatized displaced refugees who felt abandoned by the nations that willingly or begrudgingly sent them to slaughter.

What did poor Nazi Germany ever do to deserve such horrible treatment?

None of us are immune from the web of self deception. Only a select few can truly "undo the cultural programming" and for whatever reason the actualization this forum represents will only ever apply to a % of our lives/behaviors. Vast majority of humanity will inevitably fall into outrage, bias, idiocy especially when talking about culture war topics.

This conversation is a dumpster fire. It's not a valid argument that 6 pieces of garbage on video makes the entire army rapists. There will always be a % of rapists in the military when engaging in these kinds of conflict - you see it Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan let's not pretend it's unique to Israel to be brutally disgusting in their overreach of power. In Afghanistan people who we considered our allies had a "custom" of raping young boys, did anyone light their hair on fire about that? US Army generally has a policy of turning a blind eye to all sorts of injustice carried out by our allies. For the majority of American History nobody gives a shit about poor brown people getting harassed, murdered, raped 99% of the time until it's conveniently in the zeitgeist for political reasons majority of the time. People can cry foul all they want about brutality, violence, rape - both sides obviously dehumanize their opponents and don't give a shit. We're disgusted but most of us couldn't even imagine the idea of existential threat to our nation/peoples existence. Without justifying it it's just an unfortunate aspect of human nature that where dehumanization and warlords reign there will always be injustice, power imbalance, violence, rape, murder as long as ignorant warlords are in power. Westerners can feign outrage at brutality when no westerner can relate to the lived experience of meaningful threats to existence and fearing for our ethnic group/country's literal survival. It's cheap to criticize Israel as a nation that should "know better" and be held to higher standards of being "Western, powerful." Israelis may be western, modern but they live in the same cage match as the rest of the middle east. The whole Israeli Palestinian conflict comes to a dead hault because of dogmatic religious ideologues who refuse to see their "opponents" as human and therefore any hope of "reconciliation" is a pipe dream. You can't make friends with someone who wants you dead, and you can't make peace with innocent people if you dehumanize them.

@Leo Gura Passing along intergenerational trauma and collective paranoia is abosultely part of Jewish culture and is all over the Talmud, oral history and modern Jewish/Israeli culture. Remembering the pain of the past is in of our religious rituals. Dipping parsley in saltwater to remember the tears. Jewish mothers are notoriously overbearing and fearful, passing down the collective paranoia embroiled in modern Jewish culture. Our culture perpetuates a shared identity of persecution, largely why Jews were very supportive of civil rights - fighting against oppression is core to our identity. There are many aspects of our traditions designed to instill paranoia passed down about all the oppression. Paranoia is not without it's usefulness ("Only the paranoid survive".) Despite how "powerful" some claim jews are there's still plenty of rational reasons to be paranoid. Plenty of hate and oppression for jews all over the world despite success in America and Israel. Netanyahu and the zealots are so collectively paranoid/fearful of the annhilation of the entire Jewish people that they've decided to recreate the disastrous interventionist wars of the early 2000's. Israel is essentially an extension of the US military - it would have been demolished without international support given how many countries/people want them dead. Israel is very important to the US war machine and people have to pull their head out of their asses thinking it's just some "country we're giving foreign aid to." Israel is the size of New Jersey, has no real natural resources bunch of dried up rock. Israeli military behaves with same brutality and brashness as the US military, breaking all sorts of International codes of justice/international law when it can reframe initiating ideological warfare as fighting terrorists. We don't give a crap about bombing the hell out of our enemies, or going way out of our way to sabotage anyone who comes close to challenging our supremacy.

Green Pill Podcast. It's not a huge channel perse but I think it could be interesting https://www.youtube.com/@Green_Pill_Podcast Charles Eisenstein as well https://www.youtube.com/@charleseisenstein Healthy Gamer (Dr. K) about meditation would also make sense. Much bigger channel though https://www.youtube.com/@HealthyGamerGG

This still hits every time

I figure the Actualized.org crowd might be the right ones to ask about spawning infinity characters with AI. My ultimate goal is to have some sort of "true roadmap of what it means to be human/specific personality type." What sort of things would you like to see: meyers briggs, "big 3", significant life events, regrets? I'd like to really add something substantive to an AI character creation app I've been working on for years ( test.statsheetcb.io if you're curious.) I think one amazing feature would be incorporating very deep layers of psychology for roleplaying. Truthfully I also want to just play with the "use my face as an image prompt and see what it says" but ideally it would be helpful for others as well.

It should not surprise anyone that any presidential candidate that lacks broad-appeal, is unable to play to "middle america", garner outsized attention is incapable of winning the presidency. People like Bernie and AOC move culture (shift overton window etc.) but the people who "win" in politics are the ones who play the popularity contest of making promises you can't/don't intend to deliver on based on appealing to the middle, not the purity of virtues or ideology.

@abundance The reason everyone is playing to "the middle" is because they are the only votes that swing the tide of election. The states that are "100% blue, red" don't need to be catered to, many will proudly decree "I would rather vote for a corpse than the other side." So yes radicals that don't have any meaningful ability to convert the minority of "swing voters" will be nothing more than echo-chamber pandering partisan ideologues who are more cultural figureheads than political influencers.

Regulatory reform > deregulation. The concept known as "regulatory capture" (where corporations in power use regulations to bully competition, IE: defense "cost plus" contracts, telecom monopolies etc.) should be reformed. There are second order consequences to over-regulation as well. The lack of affordable housing in many places is due to insane nitpicking, general douchebaggery of local governments driving up the cost/difficulty of building homes to the point where developers would rather build elsewhere. Overregulation of nuclear power has had a horrible net-negative on the world. It obviously needs to be regulated but nobody can even build a standard nuclear powerplant without insane amounts of time and money, rendering the cost-saving (and carbon neutral!) benefits of nuclear null - forcing under supplied electrical grids to rely on fossil fuels.