Gennadiy1981

I am reading the posts and I truly see how antisemitic people are here, despite their enlightenment practice, or maybe they are not. To answer question, did you know that Jews were expelled historically from 80 different countries. And some were twice and more than that. Did you know that living amount other nations we experienced such gifts as crusades and inquisition and pogroms and Holocaust. Thank you dear world but no thanks at the same time. We need to have a safe heaven that when things become bad we have a place to go. You may say that we have civilized places like America. And you are right that America is not Germany. Did you know that one time Germany wasn’t a Germany neither, of all the places in the world Germany was a civilized nation. All it does is to take some catastrophe such as an economic clash, and Jews become the scapegoat. So we need a safe heaven. And even now the antisemitism is rising. Hope I answered you that question. The answer question is, we Jews care for each other. When the oriental Jews as you call, were expelled from Arab countries we accepted them and made them equal citizens and they all blended within society. Does not matter they were from east, west, north or south. Today it’s pretty much blended and they became one people. I would not say one is more than the other, there are a lot of mixes and so on.

Look everything can have a solution even a temporary one. It may not sound so politically correct but we need to understand that Middle East is not middle west, our understanding of principal and morality cannot be applicable there and should not be, it’s just different mind set and philosophies and we should respect it and accept it. Let’s be honest, two peoples cannot exist on one land. It’s not like a huge land, it’s a size of the state of New Jersey. One has to be relocated. We can force and read morals and pay and bribe but at the end of the day it will only be blood shed and death. You can’t force love if it’s not there and you need to understand you have people who differ in every aspect there is, in race, ethnicity, language, religion, culture and etc. Thats the reality, I just do not see any other solutions. And frankly I don’t think there are even any. A lot of times I think maybe the Bible is correct that speaks the final war will happen over Jerusalem.

Sorry I have been out for a month but for the past few month I have not seen any new videos posted by Leo. Do you know if everything is ok with him? Maybe there was a general response but I could not find topic thread on that.

Thanks so much. Its just I like to listen to his lectures on the way back home when i travel far for work purposes, I had number of his lectures saved and caught up to all of them.

Robert F Kennedy Jr. is a true old fashion Democrat. Today Democratic Party is very mixed with different kind of ideologies altogether what I like about him is that he is very close to initial democracy principles, the same ones. His uncle was today Democratic Party is very different and have been taken over by others. That’s why the party itself in a big mess.

I agree with Leo banning guns will not stop shooting. Besides, those who really won the shoot will find a way, so that is not the answer. Actually, someone researched and found out that most shooters, especially recently were an anti-depressants so this may be a cue. Guns became so political that one body defends them, and the other party attacks them, and no one really cares. Why shooting happens, notice how political this topic is, people just quickly, jumping to take sides. No, no one spoke about antidepressant. So this is the question are we depressed too much? Maybe curing depression can be the answer to people stop shooting.

Of course we can get super political and of course this entire idea can be usurped by private companies and even countries, even by politicians. But my take was more for human development, assuming it’s all done on innocent level and assuming it will be done for the benefit of humanity. Without career and jobs, what are we to do in this world?

This is not a political tread. There are a lot of information about AI in both negative and positive, such as certain organization are there to have world dominance and etc., but this is not what this thread is about. I was at the religious event, and the person spoke about Bible and AI that made me think a lot actually and want to share with you. First to start with the biblical perspective, a person mentioned of Adam and Eve, when they were created, and lived in the Garden of Eden and ate the forbidden fruit, which, after God cursed Adam with hard labor to all his generations to come. Apparently somewhere else in the Bible it says that any curse will come to an end at one point in time or another. Going back to AI, the idea is that eventually it will phase out all human labor, that robots will be doing all the work for us. So the curse of labor will eventually end. just think what will happen to humanity, at first half of humans will be at each others throat, because labor or career is an integral part of humanity. Career or a job that we do is a significant part in our life, notice when we speak to people or when we meet people, or when we date people will always talk about our work, what we do for a living and what are our achievement or Career or a job that we do is a significant part in our life. But if that is taken away, in a healthy way, what we are to do with our lives. The deeper question is, when God created Adam, or the human, what was their purpose. Doing a very deep research, limited only to Bible at this moment, the purpose was to connect to God. Of course, if you ask a religious fundamentalist, they will tell you to follow the Bible, be kind to people and etc. but listening to actualized.org and others, I feel that connecting means to be part of the Univrse, of universal consciousness and the God that Leo speaks off. Maybe the way the human was created for, and at that time, the human wasn’t ready so she had to be curse to work since initially a human was at a very low development level, but now the humanity did develop significantly and maybe we are ready to strip ourselves off the professions. Deep topic that made me think a lot. I can admit both myself, and I’m sure most here are as well, even if you take a very long vacation at some point you still miss your work. Work is embedded in our lives, and at this point it is part of who we are, but was that the point of creation?

Your question really refers to mysticism. And mysticism is not something that can be measured by science, because science, do you know the measure three-dimensional space, and time, whatever goes beyond, science has no measure. That is why mysticism is considered the greatest conspiracy theory of them all because it may exist, or it may not exist, and there is no way now or even in the future can anyone prove it or disprove it. Maybe after life and prior life do exist or maybe they don’t. Think of a dream, besides yourself can anyone look into the dream, can anyone guess or know what your dream was about? What is really happening in the dream, is it your brain process your daily stuff, or you accessing parallel universes, or maybe it’s just a mental masturbation. The thing is no one will ever know and mysticism will always remain mystical.

Right now Julian’s father and brother are touring US and showing this movie called ithaka. I did not watch the movie yet but did hear their interview. Actually a lot I learned and didn’t know such details. So apparently what Julian did was he published the items which was given to him, including the famous exposition of Guantanamo bay prison torchere. Now I am not going into politics here really whether US had the right to torchere since the other side did torchere or not and etc. My main worry is as follows. I understand that whoever is employed in intelligence or government classified information signs paper of non disclosure and if they do leak info, they have the fight to be trialed for treason, that’s all given and I am ok with that. But… all what Julian did was publish info given to him, basically he acted as a journalist, and this is very typical as some people say, if something to happen to them they mail to news anchor to expose. Journalism is unofficially the fourth branch of government with freedom of expression. US wants to extract him form England but they asked England to place him in maximum solitary confinement with other mental criminals so the conditions are horrible, not to mention he already had stroke there. This is troubling to hear such, and it’s the state department that does it to him regardless who is the president at that time, whether it was Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. After hearing such interview, so then the real journalism is not so free. Is that an example they want to set as a precedent?

SO I know indeed a number of religious individuals whether they are into Kabbalah Judaism, or Christian Mystics of Suffis Muslims, and I am trying to figure out what spiral dynamic level do they belong. So the individuals exhibit a hardcore stage blue, they strongly believe their religion is the only right religion, their truth is the only truth, they strictly follow their respected bible and pretty much fundamentally keep their practices. However, they also are aware and some even know the nature of reality. They do see God as an infinite Oneness and not an old bearded man in the clouds. They do get mystical experiences, they understand the universal consciousness as those teachings do dive very deep into and a lot of things they learn something what one can experience during a psychedelic trip. So on one hand, they are hardcore stage blue, but I would add that they have some turquoise in them, but then i am asking myself, can such thing even be possible by skip;ping so many stages in between. I know a person can be on the border line such as stage blue and orange, but can they be on the border line by skipping other stages. I know those individuals are lacking orange, green and yellow. Or maybe that where spiral dynamic model fail?

Thanks all, so apparently you can skip stages, but not really states. But you are correct, the most healthiest way is to go through them all. So there is one person I know well, the thing is he grew in a predominately religious environment with all conditioning embedded into him so for him to let go of all religious practices would be as letting himself go. But on the other hand, this specific individual does have compassionate for others and even resembles a lot of stage green, with the only exception he is too attached to blue stage worshiping.

But interestingly those individuals know the nature of reality, they understand The Universal Consciousness and Great Mind, however at the same time, maybe its pressure from their communities and cultures they grew in, they strictly abide by the religious rules. They are definitely missing orange, green and yellow. But they do have knowledge of God realization that you are God and the world is an illusion same as turquoise would speak off.

In my humble opinion, to be awaken is the realize that you and God do everything at the same time, as you are one, as there is only oneness as nothing else exists, but this oneness. To be a week is to remove all conditions you were brought up in your family, in your religion, in your community. And as Leo said, A person individually will know when they’re awake or not. And the week in person can see through all the bullshit that the media shows us the government shows us the politics, and the school in the community shows us. You understand that you live in full bullshit, and that you are the only one who understand the true essence of reality.

Hey everyone, yes, with every person you may agree or you may disagree and that’s perfectly fine. There are a few things I disagree with Leon, but at the same time, maybe we speak in different levels. I will be honest, I listen to most of his lectures, and they are very deep and profound. There’s so much to learn, and I gave Leon a lot of credit that he spends his time and research to make those videos for free. Just appreciate how much time he puts in to educate us and I’m sure he is missing and a lot of fun things with most of us do. It’s so much easier to listen for two or three hours for a lecture them to prepare it, which takes 10 to 20 or maybe 100 hours. I will be honest, at least initial videos. He was biased in politics, but with time, and especially recently his position, neutralized, especially if you watch the two part series, understanding, liberal, and conservative minds. Maybe we just not understood him correctly or maybe he didn’t express and it’s allowed to be a bias or maybe it was by us and that’s fine I’m sure most of us have our own biases that we would not tolerate others but all in all I just want to say a big thank you for learning so much. And I will make a very bold statement, I have not met a more serious, and a more rigorous such a philosophical and deep epistemological enlightened teacher as Leo.

Hi everyone, not sure if this topic belongs in the specific chat but anyways I was watching this cute small video about spiral dynamics, bridles explaining it all. So I noticed there are few other tiers such as beige even below purple and even stage coral above turquoise. I know Leo has at least four part series on spiral dynamics but that one starts only from stage blue. Any idea if Leo maybe has one episode where she goes over all stages of spiral dynamics or some others in order? As far as I remember, and again, I can’t be wrong, I don’t believe we will have about turquoise even though he talks in other episodes a lot and this is my favorite one, but I wonder if he has it. And if someone can do me a favor can someone post or maybe there is a link to all spiral dynamics videos of Leo,As far as I remember, and again, I can’t be wrong, I don’t believe we will have about turquoise even though he talks in other episodes a lot and this is my favorite one, but I wonder if he has it. And if someone can do me a favor can someone post or maybe there is a link to all spiral dynamics videos olio preferably in order.

Oh, thank you so much. Where did you get this video? And why did Leo take it off? Isn’t Leo the only one who decides which videos to go on his channel? That’s his channel that’s some corporation I don’t understand. Also, why does it matter if other people do not agree that’s Lewis channel so he can post whatever he want or you’re telling me those people were from his team? Besides stage turquoise is so up in the air that there can be number of interpretation

For me, weed is a child’s play. I can smoke a lot, well actually if I smoke like really a lot I can get buzzed and get some insights, but only if music is playing if I do edibles, then I can get more into experience, but cannot even begin to compare to psychedelics. I also always ask myself a question is weed a psychedelic. So for me, smoking is nothing cannot compare to any psychedelic. And for sure 5 MEO DMT is my top notch? Meaning it’s a heel that I still need to cross. I did fill those ones few microdoses, but it still gives me the creeps, this is something I still need to cover.

That’s very deep Leo and this is such a service to humanity, those who understand that will be grateful to you for the rest of their lives.

Hi Leo, are you doing all those journeys on your own? Have you ever done in ceremonial setting or mostly solo? I know you posted one live trip. Do you at least have a sitter? I personally would be frightened to do it all on my own? A lot of times I feel that I am about to die, psychedelics always give me sense of death, maybe because of my anxiety. But especially with Ibiza I heard you need to have someone watching you.

While there are really good hearted Shammans and I personally know one, so you should know there are a lot who are making it for profit, so they are not much different than those in pharmaceutical business in terms of mind set, of course the pharma does make much more profit. But even in pharma there are different companies and different manufacturers. I personally avoid companies like Merck, Pfizer, Sanofi and SGK, but there are a lot of small ones who are really there to make a buck. Of course people have business mind set and of course when they grow and expand to multi million companies they start to cut corners, but with all fairness to a shamans, some of them prey on desperate people and over charge for ceremonies. Not sure how much a pill would cost but I would say a ceremony would be at least ten times over.

Hi everyone, I stumbled upon an article claiming that there are natural alternatives to MDMA. Of course it’s not a secret that ecstasy can be abused and it does pose a health risk. See article pasted below for natural alternatives. Though not so sure how natural they are but they are legal. They claim natural alternatives such as Katy, Phenylethylamine, Elhedrine, Quercetin and many others can have similar affects without the dangerous chemical compounds. My question is, is it really true, can you get high from those or it’s just a nice commercial trick and they don’t do jack. Does anyone ever tried what is called the “herbal ecstasy”, if yes would like to know your opinion and if they can do what real ecstasy does. And to conclude, the real ecstasy is amazing, it truly gets you to heaven without any exaggeration, especially with deep house music, there is nothing more you need in life. But speaking soberly, ecstasy is and can be very dangerous. https://serenityatsummit.com/ecstasy/legal-drugs-similar-molly/

Thanks for sharing very interesting. Quick question, can you get high from it or it’s just aligning your mind. Meaning can you get visuals like from DMT or LSD or it’s different high like Ketomine where you are experiencing total relaxing. Also can I take it while working the microdosing? And for macro dosing, what would be a trip like?

With all due respect to you, have you ever tried mdma? I never ever achieved natural state even one billionth of what mdma can do? Again I am not being addictive to it, but to admit, it’s such an amazing feeling, when you get a chance to dive into heaven. I know this is not the answer and every spiritual teacher will tell you to get into bliss naturally. But let’s be all honest, can you naturally achieve such states? I personally cannot and nothing helps me even meditating. Again I have full time job and I do not spend so much time on it anyways. But once in a blue moon you can treat yourself. Hence that’s why I started this thread to see natural alternatives because mdma is not a healthy med.

Thanks, you are the second person who mentions they got high from cacao. Can you verify that you can actually get high from cacao, what dosage you need to take?