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@Windappreciator lol you sound like me when I used to be vegan. Good luck on your journey. I hope it lasts.

Physically speaking, shortness of breath, brain fog, hair loss, to which at the time, I chose to attribute these issues to anything but veganism. It might not sounds so bad on the surface, but I couldn't form a full sentence anymore without adding "err" "yknow" "uhm" between every 5 words. My training is the love of my life and it was getting affected. Mentally speaking, it was turning me into a member of a cult. My whole identity and lifestyle was surrounding veganism. Personally, it goes against my values to push, probe or guilt trip anyone to follow any lifestyle I incorporate. I seriously hated pushing the vegan agenda onto people, preaching them and going onto crusades about it (just like what this thread is doing). But the alarming suffering of the animals was calling to put my discomfort to the side. After all my discomfort was nthg compared to what the animals have to go through, right? After I ended my veganism, you know what it felt like? Like I just ended a toxic relationship. You don't notice how bad it was until you're out. You're blind to it while you're in it. Everythg seemed good while it lasts, you deny and minimize lots of suffering you were having, you even lie to yourself and others.

lol you think I speak out of my ass without personal experience? It lasted 2.5 years until I acknowledged the insidious damage it caused in me both physically and mentally. Learning that veganism wasn't the holygrail to every human as it claimed to be was a hard pill for me to swallow

@Windappreciator lol I'm not an alien and I don't have the power to cage up humanity. But my theory is already put into test with veganism alone

Believe it or not, even within the specie we are extremely different. Smthg I eat everyday might just poison my neighbor and vice versa. Even our taste and preferences in food differs massively despite being the same specie. Have you ever wondered why? I sure did. And I think the answer lies beyond just culture. I know as a vegan, you might think our physiology is the same, our colon is 11-15 times longer than our body, our jaw can grind and chew like herbivores, and so on - so what gives? Well, we are different than primates in that sense. If some aliens were to come on earth, take control and breed us, they wouldn't be able to feed us all the same food without having a third of us dying or suffering

If you don't develop relationships, your worldview and experiences will be narrowed down to just you. It's limiting, don't you think?

@Tanterra sounds like a tribal kind of concept

yeah I feel the same as you.. Not only in appearances but in practice. I'm afraid I will no longer be as effective in my sports, in fact I already feel the difference than just few years ago: my recovery process is slower, I need longer to get to a warmed up zoned and it doesn't last as long as it used to be . I used to be able to go through days with lack of sleep but now when I do, you will see it right away on my face, my skin, and body. I also like the feeling of appearing young to people, there is a certain access to a wider range of what you can do without being judged. Not to mention and let's be really honest about this, in this generation 1rst world country, people tend to have a soft spot for you if you're a young looking woman. You will be treated differently than if you were an older man. Those are privileges I believe is part of the journey of womanhood we need to learn to slowly outgrow. The notes that I keep telling myself, is that we are all aging together. You're not aging alone. There are lessons to be learned ONLY when your physical body doesn't follow your mind anymore or the physical self-image you have in mind. When our face is no longer as glowing as it used to be, when wrinkles and white hair appear. You can maybe slow down the process with the technology advancement nowadays but ultimately, you can't fight this. You have to accept it. Perhaps embrace it for better measure, celebrate it for having survive this long. Part of the human experience I think is to learn to let go. Right now, especially because of the media, we put so much values in youthful appearances and disregard the beauty found in every age. Whenever I see any aging signs surface, I automatically think I'm perishing and decomposing, that these are signs my face & body is about to go downward from here on and I mourn a little. I then remind myself that while I worry about my aging and upcoming death, I forget the present and how right now, at this moment, I look and feel the youngest I can be. And I must enjoy while it lasts, because 10 years from now, I'd probably wish I'd look and feel as I am now. And so forth.

Unpopular opinion here but I find it very tasty. Tasty, probably unhealthy. it's like plant based junk food.

That's an odd claim to put out there.. Because someone diagnosed with NPD would not acknowledge they have a personality disorder in the first place - that's a side effect of their symptoms. And in the scenario that they do acknowledge, they would lie and never admit they actually manipulate people. In other words if you were actually a Narcissist, the rest of whatever you'd claim about yourself is basically bullshit, fueled by an inflated sense of false-self. But again, very unlikely that you are if you think that you are one - following me?

Koba from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes