Zedman

Guys, this would be a non-debate if there was a solution for the legs. My skinny legs just keep distracting and getting in the way no matter the pose. Laying down helps to "get rid" of the body.

Can we view thinking as exclusively input/output of information? So when I am contemplating I am merely feeding output into input and then accessing input to generate stuff which is output. I am the only one getting dizzy trying to become conscious of this process? I remember this used to really fuck me up on a psychedelic.

The thread got so polluted with IQ and genetics discussion I couldn't find if in-group preference argument was properly addressed. How strong is their in-group preference factor? Is it true they have schools and teachings they are not communicating to the public? How much does it attribute to their success?

Have you watched Leos video on how to be decisive? Its very good I promise.

Should I work towards that? Are enlightened masters in it at all times? How often and how long are you in it? What degree are you in? When I amp up this realization during meditation it slowly but noticeably starts becoming magical and divine. However when I ''force'' it during daytime activities its just meh and sometimes degrades purely to a level of thought. I am simply wasting my time being aware of a thought and not the real thing because of distractions.

@Leo Gura According to your experience: Can I be insane and not know about it? Can I be insane and fit in society without them even noticing? Can insanity be still? Can I be insane even if I am sitting still in a silent room looking at my hand? How similar is it to this experience? ''My extremely brief experience of insanity was this: its scary, you can feel and even touch the point of no return, which is death but on a grander scale, not human death. The intelligence within consciousness starts to die as if. You are conscious of disintegration of your thinking mechanism and now it takes unfamiliar form. Sounds ridiculous but as if ego and fear was only thing holding everything together.''

I dont want to do this but something tells me I have to. Treat this not as an argument but rather confession. While doing this I am also confronting myself. What if there was a legit ground for the issue BUT it doesnt have to be bound to any specific ethnicity. Formula is simple. People in power + ingroup preference. As an example systematic racism works the same way. Right? White people who are in power want to keep that power so they team up with the closest looking guy with the closest background to his own (in simplified terms). So I believe from here comes the entire notion of antisemitism or anti anything that is in power. This is how it makes sense to so many people. Because they would do the same thing. Can we address that or keep bashing Kanye?

Being rich is relative. I think what Leo is trying to point at is that if you change the definition or the perspective a little and ta-daa it turns out we are already in that setting. If you want more nuanced answer try more nuanced question that considers relativity. @Leo Gura ''I'm wondering, would there be a setting in which it's possible for all or almost all humans on the globe in my lifetime to be rich as you at the same time? Dont bother its no lol

I observed closely on my relatives and friends from school so many cases of people turning full 180 from being far right. It happened slowly and gradually as my eastern European country was better and better integrated into the EU. What happens now is I can see decline of that progress by the day. Why is that? Why did so many policies failed and why is popularity rapidly declining? EU for example was a free reign for leftists. There was no substantial force to oppose immigration. But man did they fucked up. And can you name a reason other that doing too much too quickly? My personal story is another example. I have come a long way and shifted myself from far right. But even after learning much about politics here and being aware of my biases I simply cannot call myself a leftist or a progressive. Like yeah, I understand, but no I cannot participate.

Do you feel its first steps or are you still in denial? I want come of ass cocky saying "I told you so" but please, Tell me I am wrong

@Leo Gura Call it whatever you want. When people find out they were inflicted pain based on deception they will be angry. Righteously!

The idea of weaponizing spirituality this way is appealing and amusing. Lying has several layers of complexity. Basic level lying is easy to spot with just gut feeling. More complex lying involves self delusion, plausible deniability or practiced mastery. Going through those will require miracle-tier spiritual techniques.

FORGIVE YOURSELF! That's it. I cleared all of the past cringe this way and it doesn't come back anymore. Recent cringe I don't forgive just yet. The lesson haven't set in. Just take your time and do it with full heart. Don't use any arguments! Just forgive yourself out of love. That's why it comes up. Your mind needs resolutions to these past experiences. Once its resolved and settled its gone. Just be prepared that it will start coming up at larger volumes. I was surprised how many of these I had piled up.

It seems that my progress has entered new stage where I am getting drunk on my own power and potential possibilities. This is after all my life until late 20s I was nothing but degrading. The contrast is so strong I feel like a spring bear at an all you can eat buffet. I have some strong signs that this is my new baseline state so its unlikely I am deluding myself. Temptation is to dip head first into orange style consumer living by putting my newfound energy into building all kinds of powers- social, financial, personal. Big time. This will have to involve exploitation and loss of integrity. My conviction is that to gain money and social status someone has to lose equal amount. And gaining those things by creation takes time that I am afraid I do not have patience for. I do have a life purpose set up which is opposite of my egoic fantasies. I just want to squeeze this phase in between. I am noticing the highs I am getting from social wins, attention from girls I never had, ability to handle stress and finally being able to put myself to work. This state has been well tested by hardships of life and failures and only made me feel more invincible. And I want more! How I justify this in my head: * I deserve some fun after so much suffering, rough childhood and self destructing teens and 20s * I will get over it. Lets have this life for 2 years * My life purpose is full of creation so this is how I will repay * My life purpose requires knowing different stages from within * Solipsistic arguments Where am I wrong? How not to get lost? Any experiences or advice?

@Chrisd No, but sacrificing integrity helps in achieving short term goals faster and better. That is the temptation.

So I accidentally learned a trick on how to prevent myself going into deeper meditations if my eyes are closed. Irrational paranoid fear of someone breaking into my room. Or someone just appearing and stabbing me. Extremely vivid image and body sensation of it appears. This breaks meditation and even forces eyes to open. Normally these thoughts don't appear. And they didn't happen before I started going into deeper meditations. I consider myself being mentally strong and stable. Here is my journey into this phenomenon. First thing I tried accepting these fears as per teachings. I did that by just ''taking it'' and waiting. Letting it happen so to speak. But then this thought/feeling appears that by letting it happen I will make it actually happen. It feels like by allowing this fear to happen will lead to self fulfilling prophecy. So I obey this fear to make it not exist anymore. Later during psychodelic contemplation I found a solution that works but I don't like it in the slightest. I ''saw'' how these fears actually prevent these things from happening. So I acknowledged their purpose and let them be there. As if saying hi and moving on until it fades from awareness slowly. It still works. I dont like it because I think I haven't dealt with the fear I just put a funny hat on it and left it in the shadow. Technically it is still there looking at me. Right? If I let it be there it will also create self fulfilling prophecy. Have I solved it or have I deluded myself completely? Should I instead let this fear ''play out'' in my imagination and just take it until it burns itself out? If I do this there is this insane multilayered sensation of me actually summoning the trouble. How to deal with the self fulfilling prophecy idea that props up this fear? Thanks for sticking through with me.

I would argue it is impossible to deal with it. When ego is in control it will not allow for any action to be taken against it. Or is it self limiting belief I hold? Lets say yes, but how do I remove it if ego is in control? Thanks for trying but any advice is useless because of closed loop nature of this problem. From my experience you just wait and pray until ego shoots itself in the foot and breaks the loop.

As I am gaining progress applying spirituality people around me cant help but to wonder. As I am gaining progress I myself cant help but to share. The problem is that I sometimes do it wrong. Extremely wrong. Experience was gained but I still expect to make more mistakes that could be avoided. Can I make the process of sharing a bit smoother? If so what are the rules/ guidelines? What experiences did you have?

@Thought Art When I do what ''simply'' interests me I run into an array of problems. It is inevitable that people who ''get it'' will try to communicate it to others. Wish there was a unified system of ''ok'' and ''not ok''.

@Leo Gura Yes, true. And to make it quicker lets employ power hungry devils to be in charge of the process.

Here is why I cant detach myself from anti-mandate stance. Thought experiment. Lets take this argument as a golden standard. If 0.1% of population is at risk of death, government should be allowed measures to restrict movement, right to work and seize possessions as well as spend massive amount of resources (UK spent 315-410bn in total which is around 50% of its annual spending). Now lets tackle death from obesity, alcohol, cigarettes and drugs the same way. We can also prevent over 0.1% of untimely deaths by mandating exercise and healthy diet. You might say people chose to do this to themselves but they are also negatively affecting others around them. People under influence kill or cause serious damage more often. Obese parents will feed their children crap. Addicts ruin families and unhealthy people clog up hospitals and tax money. Do we want to be in this kind of society? Would it be sustainable? What if mandating power gets corrupt (worse than now)?

From your human perspective toxicity is anti consciousness. It renders you less able to experience higher states and it lowers your baseline consciousness. And because it has became nearly unavoidable I could argue this is much bigger of a problem than you might think. I kinda knew about heavy metals, plastics and such but recent discovery on teflon and C8 chemicals that were only recently ''banned'' inspired my lazy ass to do something and dig deeper. Lets educate each other in this thread on every possible toxic threat to your body and in turn to your consciousness. Even if its speculative it is worth discussing. Related threats like wave radiation, GMO foods are also welcome. First one will be on how Du Pont poisoned the world with teflon and C8 chemicals that you cannot detox from and they are still going strong using legal loopholes:

@Julian gabriel Because it is life transforming and healing. Would have been dead 3 times over.

Slippery slope I see with this Their wealth is illegal or unjust > you need official proof > you don't have it > you are a conspiracy theorist > you know how we treat your kind here And if their wealth is just and legal how can you object?