Applegarden8

@Girzo so you were talking about my thesis and adapting my arguments to that, so what about this one?

Stop watching fresh and shit and whatever and it will go up by 50

@Girzo In a common sense way I agree with you, but we are in a self-development forum, where people constantly question their values and outcomes. Therefore I prefer to look at it in a yes/no manner. For the OP it maybe useful to look at my example, because Leo actually uses this as approach to be successfull in multiple areas in his life.

Because that is still a unsustainable or exploitative environment. Lavish = not good. There is still a lack of inspiration or values that inspire action and human genius. It needs certain resources, I am not only talking about financial, and I am talking about holistic, long term success. Our values and education sucks major ass, therefore you see failures everywhere, even if they are rich. For example, I do not see Dan Bilzerian as a successful human being, and I don't even see Allan Holdsworth or Elvis Presly as a successfully human beings, because their pleasures killed them, but their environment was good enough to give a little bit of everything for their muse. Most people don't get those.

Unsustainable, exploitative environment is really the only objective reason

Yeah man, it's hard. Especially when you have no experience with women, like me. I once met a girl who was a jazz singer. I really wanted to help with her musicianship, because I thought she would kill it if she found a way to record music and release it over the internet, and she would have a reliable medium to be engaged in practicing/recording, probably, for the rest of her life, not even talking about the things she can already do and organize regarding music. I noticed that we clicked, but basically I was too slow and at the same time too clingy for her. She was very attractive and I just really enjoyed her company, but i primarily wanted to help her in her music. I wish that she is doing well though. Let me say this. As much as I do not want a relationship, she really made me primarily want her. She made me feel like I have to lead her. I do not remember that any other woman has made me feel like that. It was interesting, and I still think about her from time to time. But I know that I will never meet her and it's fine I guess, even if she wanted to. I do not think that it's hard for her to find a mate. But here I am, desireful for somebody that does not care about me whatsoever. And this is most of our case (i am talking about single men who *can't get it* and have to put in a lot of work to get the kind of quality women you desire). Well the desire for companionship and sex. Ahh, the very root of most of the problem that a man will deal with. And society supports this delusion that you are not a complete being by yourself somehow. That is why it's so hard.

Basically, I am willing to spend a lot of time completely dismantling my lifestyle and building it up again. I would like to know how it is to live healthy. Without it I will have nothing of significance. So, where did you start? How long it took, how many times you tripped? What changed? How is your life now what you really improved your health? I want to pursue health for the following reasons. - To enjoy life in it's senses. - To handle problems that life throws at me. - To maximize doing and lifestyle of solitude and contemplation. - To be able to sit alone with my eyes closed for extended periods of time. - To really figure out what works. - To not live a mediocre life of guilt, self-hatred and projection. What are your routines, guides, what psychological tricks, practices or advice worked for you? Have your cravings permanently gone? What were your worst moments? Please, share. Thank you.

Thanks man, I am really giving it a shot

Kinda missed everything with your comment. Your criticism does not reflect my lifestyle. But thanks I guess, maybe you needed to vent.

I feel that we have a problem in our situation which you can define like this. Every time I succeed at something and whenever I someone reasonably or extremely succesful in something. Wether they are smart, talented, they poses fame or extraordinary ability, whatever. Did you know that they had sufficient environment to have that? For example, now you or somebody else to wants to strive for that quality without the environmental support. It is frustrating, unlikely or even impossible to achieve something like that. This makes me really uneasy, because first of all everyone has all the capabilities to be a musician actually, but have nowhere to play or any other example and they have to suffer this constantly and go to people that can play just to feel jelousy. For me it is hard to cope, because I can be very creative and actually a lot more people are if they had better upbringing, knew the consequences of their life choices. This was maybe my example, but I know that whoever is reading this, you will have an example in your life as well. You are still trying hard, devoting time, work, friends etc. and some miserable people who also have this problem or your "enemies" try to take your time and health away by unconscious behavior and by the time you know it, your life is over. But you are still desireful and broken. Same as the hobo on the street which asked for help and you ignored it. What is the solution for this? There has to be one. It's not alcohol, drugs, violenece, pyramid schemes and gambling for sure. I will say this "It's very cool that you can do this, but what about all the other people who could if we allowed them?" Peace, Applegarden.

yes

I feel that I have strong desire to be a Sage. I feel this is pretty much the only thing worth looking into. Let me tell you why. The environment in which people live is antagonistic. They are in direct competition pretending that they are friendly and so on. Chronically jelous and in a cold war all the time. So what happens is that people will project their life on you. It would be OK if they had some insight to share tough. Yet they do not know how to be happy, but they have all this theory with which they justify their unhappiness and I do not understand that. What happens is that they negatively affect you and you have to deal with it. So, maybe you want to build your life into something? Well that is fine, but if you are trying to neurotically trying to build something truly great, that takes decades to build and pretty much nobody will care. Nobody, period. They will have their own stuff because they are in direct competition with you. Nobody has time to see and listen to you. I mean it will be a tremendous grudgery to go trough that consistently. I know. You will actually have more people that hate you and envy you, and will spew their projections about life CONSTANTLY, and you will have to listen and endure that, digest that and it WILL AFFECT YOU. What you made is not what will make you extraordinary, but what will is how many times you were rejected and how much garbage you digested and transformed and how many people were deeply disturbed by an alternative viewpoint implemented in practice. Bottom line, it is hard and you are affected by people around you, where you live, where you work. Maybe you want to have a partner? Girlfriend? Wife? Husband? Maybe a quality one? Well. You know. As a man, sexual desire is very strong. I feel it's like a curse and burden. Long story short, where there is a woman you are interested on, there you have to lead. With leading I mean, come up to her, talk to her on the spot, read her, guess how she is going to respond, make her feel comfortable and yet challenged, have to do the right things, escalate, set up the date, not to be too creepy over the text, do it all over in a date, know how to sexually escalate on her, be good to satisfy her sexually. Now you have this attachment, but you have to be this attractive man so again you lead and build this intimacy just to abstain, so that she doesn't lose the interest and so now. Now she wants kids, no matter if you do or not and so on... So basically you have to do this work to rewire yourself to be extroverted and attractive, keep yourself in shape, learn some skills to have shit together etc. and learn how to read and stimulate her instinctively and regularly or she will lose interest. does not sound like being me, because here I am performing a mating dance, this is not how I act. So seems a lot like a frustrating effort for what exactly? To be gaslit by somebody? Sounds like I am not getting it guys, because I have 0 game. So I kinda rather go the path of contemplation and happiness because I already found something worth looking. Ofc I am a functional member of society trying to do my "life purpose" to advance my sexual marketplace value and appear "attractive" and "interesting" but none of these actions have existential value and I deeply know it.

Remember that eternity awaits you.

SAMPLE CONTAMINATION DUDE, I work in a lab, definitely could happen.

Not really much I think, in case you eat a variety of fruits and legumes. In case you really would like to, you can get yourself tested for B12, macro/micronutrients, blood sugar, anemia test etc., and if you find something is still under or over, maybe then you might need a supplement or green veggie, or something else even. At the end of the day, do you feel good? Do you want to feel better? Maybe then you should start doing some form of Yoga or something.

Same

What a Neo advita thing to say!

@Myioko;)

Thanks for sharing. We'll I have had the following problem. I cannot have good sleep because of stress, so what other aspects of health I can optimize to help me have lower the stress and have chance to get more sleep.

@Sidra khan thanks for sharing. I have some things that have worked to the extent that I did them. - neem and turmeric intake at the morning; - usage of haritaki; - drinking only when I am thirsty, no tea or coffee; - obviously reducing refined sugars; - intermittent fasting (no snacking); - some yogic practices I have done, some purely physical and kriya yoga which is my favourite. - I have tried some alternative healing techniques and I have mixed results, I cannot say they do not work, but you really have to do them consistently and your lifestyle should be without nervous stimulants and refined sugars for best results. Maybe practicing that for few years daily could make you have a Siddhi, but only for yourself, not others. Plus, I am not sure if you can heal every disease like viruses and other external infections, but psychosomatic diseases it seems like you can. - from classical medidation practice (dhyana) I feel blissful throughout my body, which I think has helped over the years. - I think vegetarianism really helps the body.

Essentially you will have nothing but desperation in your desire to want more and to desire for things you actually want. Then your success will not mean anything but comfort, which you also will not want to lose and it will be uncomfortable all the time. Something will ick you all the time. You will be insecure, and you cannot logically argue aginst it. The desire to do something different is always there. Justify how you want, good luck with that. If you have a system which is higher on the spiral, I strongly suggest going for it. Worked really well for me.

I agree, it can really help.

You know, I met this girl who plays classical guitar. I think she was the only person who I would wife up. I noticed that she can be pretty honest and she was very sweet, caring and seemed that she has what to offer. But, me being me, I did not have the desire to commit to her, not even to sleep with her. Definitely you would look for a woman who can tell you that you are full of shit sometimes and who also could take criticism, and somebody who is willing to commit to you in actions. That is mature and hot as fuck actually for her age and but in women in general. Then I had a meeting with another woman who was not like that. Maybe she could be but she was not the kind who would settle down and commit and maybe even damage my life, so it's actually good that I avoided her since I had a little bit more sexual attraction to her.

I broke down yesterday. But I didn't break down to anything but silence. I understood just how much it is not even worth striving for anything if you do not spend time building your desire and vision for ir. Then it is pure suffering and grudgery in which you will never satisfy your desire for what you are doing it and always procrastinate it. Also I understood deeper just how much health and sustainable lifestyle matters and without it, you will have nothing but anxiety, anger and more hectic and confused pattern of desiring what everyone else wants. I am willing to invest a year after work or even 5 years after work to spend a little time running few errands, just to get healthy and re-wire how you function. Doesn't matter how much you spend with this, you will get a life of magnificent depth and quality, while it looks mundane. I want to build my capacity to perceive life and understand what instruments I have. Ofc, I do my music on weekends and so on, but my main focus for now is health and depth in my life. Life starts with you. You will break down at the immensity of life. I want to throw all the useless garbage I have been indoctrinated with. I know that there is alternative way to be. It is within my reach. I literally do not want to do anything but to sink in it. I strongly feel this is a turning point in my life. Putting awareness on myself, my mind, my body is the best investment you can make. You can't dream this stuff up, but this what you are. This is also a solution for enduring any criticism for what you authentically want to do and want to be. If you have your I dependant mechanism of intrinsic motivation, all violence aginst you, all gossip, all stupidity is useless. You will truly, consciously desire something and enjoy the process of doing it, achieve it, celebrate it, go full circle and exhaust that desire in this or next lives. This is how it should be. But here you are, guilty about everything, justifying your existence. It may not need be so. Because I have such a tough situation, people around me wipe the floor with my identity every day. So they made me as I am now, and this is how I will be. I have figured it out. All criticism feels useless now. There is nothing you can really say, at the end of the day. I will do what I want to do and if you don't like it, that's your problem. Anyway, you hate yourself, so time to figure things out. I spent significant amount of time for this and I am ready to continiously spend time every day to develop and implement this. You will see this and you will break down, question of time only. I want to say that there is no model as to how to live life. You have to see what your most authentic desires are and go for them. Please, do not delay self-exploration though, some of that is needed to have a lasting enjoyment. Your goal here is to build your life externally as to what You authentically desire and untangle and clean yourself internally to come to the point where you see that life is not a problem. Stay healthy. Our society is pretty sick so you will reciveve a good continious rounds of ego backlash. And if you persist you will become a sage. Also, if you are a lonely dude who is by himself and don't have a gf etc. this is a FANTASTIC time to get healthy, build your vision and gather depth of experience. You don't have to explain anything to anybody. Life is for you to live it. Peace. Applegarden.

I feel like a complete idiot and genious at the same time on this path.