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With personal dev these people change over the years. Only people like monks and spiritual teachers would be worthwhile to meet for me. Regarding musical folk, I used to have idols, but musicianship is a pyramid scheme. Those who get to do it full time get really good. And the rest of the world envies them or are unaware and are like "wow, how is this possible, this is so cool", but it's a kind of a status game by chasing recognition and audience and freedom to express yourself and yet, then there is curiosity, innovation, practice, insight, musical models, theoretical or otherwise, involvement of other senses to generate music... in other words, there is the core. Almost everyone alive can touch it, play with it, gather insights about life, but there is no time, because you are competing for places to do it full time. Selling musical gear so people who can't do it full time, chronically buy it and have no time to play it all. The best get it for free anyway, and their friends too. Some people teach music, remind themselves about musical concepts, spend time in their job playing and obviously they will have the skill to create impressive works. And then there are people who have the freedom to do their own thing, built their own instruments and shift the basic variables of music and then make it. In that sense I don't want to meet anybody. Either my ego is too big, or their ego is too big or hurt in that field of life. Any idol will sell me a signature guitar, invite my to their studio to become my client or invite me to their concert where I have to listen what they perform even if I don't really usually want to hear any of that. :]

I agree that US in a crisis right now. I live in the Baltics so, I might have other problems like invasion from the east. But yeah, USA was doing so good, even with all it's problems.

It's also important to note what Eckhart did after that experience. He secluded himself from everything and everyone as much as possible and mostly did nothing which allowed him to radiate what he is radiating today. If he had a change of mind and he went about his day he would be in our predicament - well I had a awakening, but my life's kinda shit.

@Never_give_up if you want to move to another country, do they just start paying wellfare checks? I don't know, but I don't think it's like that. People usually migrate to work abroad and then to settle down.

Just wait until 2028, Trump is bringing Dems back to life with his actions.

I would suggest not watching his content. It's truly ragebating and authoritarian boot licking contest. If that guy realized what is the endgame of what he is leading people to... That whatever Trump says is the law and you can't disagree with him and that what you want from the goverment is not your choice as a voter... and that if he decides to disagree he might aswell get a nerve agent served to him or put him behind bars for treason or even worse... the re-education camp.

Are you taking jerking off too seriously, Leo?

somebody ask chat GPT what could happen if Leo attends JRE I will ask. If Leo Gura from Actualized.org were to appear on The Joe Rogan Experience (JRE), the consequences for him could be quite significant, both positive and negative. Potential Benefits for Leo Gura: 1. Massive Exposure: JRE has millions of listeners, meaning Leo would reach a mainstream audience far beyond his current niche. Many people unfamiliar with him might find his ideas compelling. 2. Legitimization & Credibility Boost: Being on Rogan’s podcast could make him seem more legitimate to the general public. He might attract intellectuals, spiritual seekers, and self-improvement enthusiasts. 3. Increased Following & Revenue: More people might check out Actualized.org and his paid content. This could lead to more Patreon subscribers, YouTube views, and course sales. 4. Interesting Discussion Potential: If the conversation is deep, they might discuss psychedelics, consciousness, spirituality, and personal development in a way that resonates with Rogan’s audience. If Rogan is open-minded, they could explore Leo’s radical ideas in an engaging way. Potential Downsides for Leo Gura: 1. Mainstream Skepticism & Criticism: His esoteric, mystical, and radical views (e.g., solipsism, infinity, awakening) might be too extreme for Rogan’s audience. He could be mocked or dismissed as a “psychedelic guru” or even a cult-like figure. 2. Difficult Questions & Pushback: Rogan might challenge Leo’s ideas, especially on science vs. metaphysics. If Leo becomes overly philosophical or abstract, Rogan’s audience might lose patience. 3. Memes & Internet Backlash: The internet loves to meme eccentric guests on JRE. If Leo says something extreme (e.g., “You are literally God,” “Reality is a dream”), it could turn into a viral joke. 4. Potential Damage to His Reputation: If he comes across as too arrogant or detached, some of his existing followers might rethink their support. If Rogan or guests ridicule him, it could hurt his brand. Final Verdict: Would It Be Good for Him? It depends on how well he presents himself: If he keeps his ideas grounded and explains them in a way that intrigues rather than alienates, it could be a huge boost. If he goes too deep too fast, comes off as elitist or dismissive, or clashes with Rogan, it might hurt his image. If Leo prepares well and adapts to Rogan’s style, it could be one of the most fascinating JRE episodes ever—but if he fumbles, it might just turn into an internet meme. Would you personally like to see that conversation happen?

The Murphy's law on that is - expect everything.

@Leo Gura I challenge you to go on Joe Rogan just to change his mind about something. Bonus points if it's politics. 😀

@Tristan12 thanks for sharing.

I don't seem to get it. I like experimental music. But I feel that this lacks consolidation. I could write a thesis about this, but I won't. But I am but a snowflake.

Most spiritually advanced? No. Good fit for the position he is in, looks like yeah. He is knowledgeable about the history of Bharat and his word do make impact. He emphasizes peace and diplomacy. He looks more like a servant to people rather than a typical or aspiring oligarch.

@Shodburrito I don't take any insult from your post. I just do my bare minimum spiritual practice which is not intellectual work at many times. If you are genuine about this work, why do you need this forum anyways. This forum has many purposes. This is a social circle for people that pursue not only enlightenment and people who feel out of place because the values they hold are not recognized locally. I don't underestand your frustration. People will say what they want to say, it's where they are. Are you really projecting some kind of elitism? Even stupid people can be spiritual if they do different kind of practices. It's not just intellectual. Peace. Genuinely wish you luck.

I think you will. You are bound to. Your personality gets so compromised in this period something else has to fill the vacuum it's almost like a guarantee. Almost nobody does it, therefore the doubt of is Awakening possible is very real.