Isle of View
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Isle of View replied to Franko's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thanxs a Lot So, I can run this process whenever I want to come back to the present moment?@Isle of View Yes. It's a very potent little process. Just run it and see for yourself. :-) It's not only about the present moment, but also about your future creation. You'll see it when you run it. Kind regards, Chris -
Isle of View replied to Franko's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Generally the Do Nothing technique is good, but it may cause you to find yourself confronted with the "agony" of boredom. That seems what has happened. (I know, my english is shitty, but I try my best ;-)) You can write down or print out the following commands and run this little process: Look around here and find someone, something, or somewhere you would be willing to like? Look around here and find someone, something, or somewhere that's really real to you? Look around here and find someone, something, or somewhere that you wouldn't mind contacting or getting into communication with? Look around here and find someone, something, or somewhere you wouldn't mind or would be willing to understand more of? Look around here and find someone, something, or somewhere you would be willing to have a higher quality friendliness toward? Repeat 1 - 5 several times. You can do it in your room, in the whole apartment or outside. You can do it in a park or sitting in a cafè. If you do it alone where there are no other people, you can skip the "someone" from the commands. "Somewhere" referes to a spot in space, a place. You should feel more alive and in touch with your environment. The above process can handle it, as it will cause you to come back out of your mind and put your attention and interest on the outside. ~Chris -
Isle of View replied to Rodrigo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I'm not at all upset nor confused. I'm amused. So, where's your answer? "What do you expect from becoming enlightened? What do you think you will do after becoming enlightened? What is your motivation?" Or you can't answer cause you don't exist? -
Isle of View replied to Rodrigo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is no you for the mind to use. Ah hahahaha. Another one who knows more about my alignments than myself. It's always a pleasure. Let me ask you the same question: "What do you expect from becoming enlightened? What do you think you will do after becoming enlightened? What is your motivation?" -
@Consept You are right, it could. But as for Prince, I really can not tell. It may very well be that he has transcended many layers of deception, let go of many attachments and/or identifications in the process. Artists often do rise above the average peoples way of thinking and being. The dedication for aesthetic expression in itself is a legit spiritual process (see The Artists Way - book). -Chris
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Isle of View replied to Rodrigo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Right, it depends on if you are using your mind or the mind is using you -
@Consept If I get you right, you say that self-actualization, finding ones true purpose in life and really living it regardless of the social indoctrination and then winning big in life, as Prince did, is valuable in its own right? I agree! Prince embraced his passions and brought it up to a level of mastery. He realized what he set up himself to accomplish. He manifested his visions (at least many of them) and he was a great performer and an inspirational figure. He was self-actualizing. Enlightenment is beyond self-actualization. It is going beyond the self. So they are not the same "things". He was not enlightened in the sense most of us here think about it. So what? ~Chris
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You're welcome Kelly. Chris :-)
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Yes, Kelly. Very good. Reciting old stories is not always therapeutic. It's the hang up moods that let the story glue to our present time (and thusly infecting our presence). So check the moods and see how you come out of it. Generally, the above process: "Describe your (current) mood" done repetetivley will unstuck one from the lower mood area. It can be done everyday for some minutes until you unstuck. Sometimes seemingly unresolvable moods will come up. There are processes for it aswell. Kind regards, Chris
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Kelly When you study some of the Yogic literature, what you say is correct. It's all sound and resonance, and they say it for several tousands of years. Yes, the thing with emotions is, they want to arrive. When you resist it, they will "hang around". So when the question is asked: "Describe your emotion" you let it arrive and therefore you can unstuck from it. With contraction is meant that the spaciousness of your presence is contracted into ever smaller space. It becomes dense and unpleasant. The lower the emotion the more contraction of space/presence. Compare how big you feel when in Joy and compare it to, say, Sadness. Space is smaller and feels different, doesn't it? :-) Kind regards, Chris
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Now I am laughing pretty hard here @Isle of View since I fell into the trap of taking the trap test HAHAHAHA I even emailed it to my counselor just to drive the point home. HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL :-)
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Very good informations on that site, @Kelley White . Espacially on this page: http://dbtselfhelp.com/html/er_handout_9.html Done daily the pratice of "observe and describe your emotion" or "observe and describe your mood" can have lasting benefits to the person. There are some emotional scales out there that can help the person to specify their current emotional position and while the excercise is done the person can unstuck from "lower" emotions and will find herself in a higher emotion. One such emotional scale was presented by Lester Levenson (Releasing Method). Unfortunatly I can't seem to find it online right now. But the one here will also do This one also shows how the "spaciousness" of the person increases as their mood goes up. So, when you feel contracted, you know what to do :-) Kind regards, Chris
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@TimStr when you want to help people evolve, there is actually no "one size fits all" precept to do so. All people are pretty unique, have their own "thing" going on in their life, their own dreams, visions and desires for or perspectives on life. First thing I would recommend is to work to recognize what people in your environment are actually interested in, what the "game" is that they're playing, what role they want to have or improve in their life. And take it from there. If you think you can help them with that, great. If you have a good feeling for the people in your environment and have good skills in communication, you can actually work out with them what it is that they are pursuing and sometimes this alone will help them enormously. Later on you will increse your "knowledge base" and will have more and more methods you could suggest to them, or books you could suggest them to read in their specific situation. It all starts with a willingness to help and learn in the process. The beauty of the task is the variety of uniqeness you will encounter as you meet more and more people from all walks of life. Kind regards, Chris
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Hello @Aladdin , some days passed since you initially opened this thread. So therefore I bring your opening post back to view ;-) Then you shared some more about yourself. :-) It's really hard to say I think it may be both the reasons you mentioned above . But if I do figure out the reason what shall I do next?? It really depends on what you find. From what I see now (and my guess may be wrong) your strife comes from contradicting convictions. For some time you left your convictions behind and flew high up into the skies :-) And sooner or later someone "reminded" you of your "place" in the world, your duties, things your are supposed to be, to do... It's not that I think someone said it to you (someone may have), but something triggered your "doubtful thinking". You weren't as sure that your new way of approaching life is "right". Check for limiting and for contradicting beliefs. And with belief I don't mean "religion" but your own conviction about what is right and true and what is not. Some examples for contradicting beliefs are: I think it's ok to live my own life VS. I shouldn't live my own life, because I have obligations It's ok to work on myself VS. my father/uncle wouldn't approve me working on myself I can decide what I want to do in my future VS. only God decides what I am supposed to be in my future my religion is good and just and promotes love VS. television says my religion is dangerous (Nothing of the above needs to apply to your situation. Those are only examples.) Irrespective of what it is that you find or if you find anything at all: believe in yourself (this can amount to: I am alive, God loves me and I am an important part of creation). Pray if you feel like that. If you think you should pray more, pray more. Find peace with God and it's absolutely OK to ask for guidance "from above". Find your true mission in life! Embrace that you are different than others in your environment. :-) Kind regards, Chris
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Isle of View replied to Mitch's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You are welcome @Mitch . Beware of those who tell you you shouldn"t embrace life to the fullest. They want you to be unhappy as they are themselves. Kind regards, Chris -
It"s ultimately every-bodies own choice. However, education and data is important to make a well informed choice. And you can do nothing about it when somebody genuinely cares.
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Isle of View replied to Mitch's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Read the blog post. It will leave you with new insight. Ego is a reference point for your unique experience of existence. It will dissolve naturally as you expand your awarness to wider aspects of existence. Kind regards, Chris -
Thanks Henri. Good data. Thanks Ant. Too many people are ignorant (and won't listen) to the dangers of psychedelics. Please inform yourself guys. Don't take the "shortcut" to "enlightenment". Chris
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Isle of View replied to Mitch's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hi @Mitch Sedona Method is not only for emotions. You can use it to release / let go aspects of your ego, aswell. I recommend the Book by Dwoskin. There are many different processes in the book for different aspects of undesireable manifestations. Secondly, the western meaning of ego differs essentially from the ego as it is described in the east. I recommend this blog post, it's long, but it's worth the read. Yoga and Ego: Sophisticated Ego, How to Face Your Inner Self (Recommended reading also for people who "fight" their ego.) However, use Sedona Method if it's resonating with you. I am using a form of this technique myself and with some of my cochees. Kind regards, Chris -
I agree with Henri. Using drugs is not self-actualization. It's an induced state. Good analogy with the plane and hang-glider. @Leo Gura it would be great if you consider to make a separate rubric for the psychedelics. Kind regards, Chris
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@abrakamowse "We Are Not Really Creators, We Are Transformers" Nikola Tesla actually created some stuff. He was also very interested in yogic sciences. Interesting figure. ~Chris
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Sounds like what Jed McKenna calls Human Adulthood. But I don't know. I didn't read the article and I'm only superficially familiar with Ken Wilber. I do know that he is all about development within the dream, more than about waking up from the dream. That's the distinction Jed McKenna makes between Human Adulthood and Truth-Realization. Most people who are generally considered to be enlightened are actually Human Adults. And not everyone who is Truth-Realized is a Human Adult, although usually they probably are. Point being that enlightenment is not a stage of development. Although a decent measure of development is generally recommended in order to better accomodate enlightenment, and sometimes the distinction on the path is not clear cut, because in practice there is overlap. @Dummy, @Natasha This may be interesting to you: Yoga and Ego: Sophisticated Ego, How to Face Your Inner Self (Recommended reading also for people who "fight" their ego.) ~Chris
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@Dummy You could greatly benefit from the techniques provided in this book, The Artist's Way: Kind regards, Chris Edit: make no mistake, it's not only for artists.
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Isle of View replied to Markus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No, maybe you are just fine. It's really hard to say from a remote position. Usually this process is to be done when a client or the person you work with (or you, when you work on yourself) is really havily triggered and engulfed with his own mind-stuff. The "imagery" I speak of is not like a drug trip, just the usual thoughts (which are composed of images, sounds and stuff like that). Yesterday I told you to try out this procedure because yesterday you reported this in the other thread: Really depends on what is accessed. First thing is to really find out what the pain is. So, what do you have there? I'm not sure. Several things mixed together probably, not concrete enough to put my finger on it. Sometimes nothing at all. Sometimes desperation about nonsense painful shit coming back again and again, even though I already know it's bullshit and I'm trying to see through it and let it go, etc. It generally doesn't make much sense, except perhaps as just old habits that die hard. I just don't know what it is, much less what to do about it. And that in itself is frustrating too. The Rub & Yawn was the best thing to apply from a remote position. You see, after you did it, you communicated a more precise descriprion of what you were sitting in. So no worries. It may be that the thing you yesterday were engulfed by is just no more clinging to you (or vice versa :-)) Don't use this procedure when you're in a high mood level and feel alive in the present moment. Use it in case you want to come more into present time, away from to much thinking process. Then you will have benefits from doing the excercise (whether you're yawning or not). Hope this helps. Chris -
Isle of View replied to Markus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Emerald Wilkins It's a simple procedure I described here: http://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/1222-my-problem-when-doing-contemplation/#comment-12454 Kind regards, Chris