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I did but there was nobody else in the room so I became my wall or some shit (which I later referred to as "the clown people" da fuck). We were laughing about how other people don't realize they're us. I was Shh-ing it saying "I know I know shhhh" trying to avoid bursting out into Salvia type laughter.

But this is not able to prove that there are other points of view of seeing etc. Is there a reason Rupert Spira etc says Solipsism is ridiculous? Is there something that shows that not only are all things including me in pure consciousness, but that other finite senses are also existent.

Yes there's not really doubt that processes I'm not conscious of exist. But I specifically mean to say, what is the best evidence for example, that you are not a subconscious process like a dream character which we presume doesn't have any sensory input localized from their PoV.

But there's no free will?

Imagining Johnny gives him existence, but does he have a subjective perception via some other mechanism. E.g. if something can exist it does. And I don't see why such a universe could not exist with a Johnny Bravo. Hm...

I suppose I am wondering if there's a Johnny in some other "universe" that has localized sensory perception. I can give him his own consciousness if I dream of him. But I'd have to dream of BEING him for him to see etc.

"I ammmm the one and only!!!" Lmao.

I would guess more intelligent people are probably put through more rigorous education, which is based totally in Materialism. School and university teaches you to think like a Materialist because that's what helps us manipulate this material dream.

I had the same thoughts as you regarding this lol. I guess though it is only scary to the human self, the Self isn't frightened by anything, it only observes fear without attachment. Hm. And those things already happened so the Self already endured them. And all things in the future too since there's no time.

Leo probably doesn't want his life to end. Leo is only one unique expression of the infinite. The infinite doesn't die, Leo does. You see? And there aren't bubbles of consciousness either. It is just emptiness, in which you and all things appear. That is what consciousness is, it's the emptiness things appear in. What you type to me now from is a unique expression of the infinite emptiness. What observes the things you read and type now is the infinite emptiness. It's actually kind of obvious when you think about it. If you see a tree as "tree" then if is one, but if you compare leaves on a tree they are separate and unique despite being one thing.

Was it kinky?

The film doesn't ever begin or end, and it's all immediate. Infinite happens in 0 seconds. I guess being in a place where time is always 0, it's infinite and unchanging.

Rofllll

As a person who NEVER smokes cannabis I got REALLLLLY fucking high off a THC cart. I thought it was like smoking a spliff. I just felt throughout "I am so fucking high". It was a different high from say, DMT, obviously, nowhere near that. But I felt "higher". Weed felt like a deliriant to me. It actually felt very much like Salvia just before the Salvia trip begins. DMT is just like going clinically insane or something but you're still kinda sober. Weed is like ket or something in that you're "out of it".

5-MeO-DMT.

It makes sense to me entirely. Reverse the idea that consciousness is inside of you to you being inside consciousness. When you think of yourself as just mind, that is infinite and all things. The self-you is limited and finite because it is just one appearance in consciousness. The self-you IS the appearance in consciousness. Your self-you can no more be another self-you than a leaf can be another leaf on the same tree, even though it's the same tree. They are separate leaves. We are one element of experience and memory in one singular "self", that is experienced simultaneously by the "Self" with ALL things.

It's easy to not sound crazy if you take the time to intellectually explain it.

Don't worry there isn't any "you" to go to hell. There's no such thing as a "you". In total ego death nothing of you remains.

Try to imagine what you think is really objectively out there separated from mind and perception. Anything other than nothing is a perception (even thought is perception: thought+thinker). To have any thing really there you'd need to take away perceiver from perception which is impossible because they depend upon each other. What is perceived without perceiver? It is nothing, there's no perceiving unless both are present. No matter what you try to say is really there... say waves of photons. What are photons? Light particles? Which to humams is made of seeing... Light cannot exist independently of perception. So what IS there? Anything but nothing is a perception, which can't exist independently of perceiver. Literally try your very best right now to say what is objectively out there that doesn't rely on perception.

Mattering involves purpose. I'm not saying you gain anything useful from this knowledge apart from understanding of what reality is.

@RendHeaven It isn't assumption, all "things" are perception. Anything you could ever possibly propose as being a thing, is ultimately a perception and therefore reliant upon perceiver. Or an observation reliant upon observer, whichever your preferred terminology. It is only understood by people when using the most obvious examples like color. Where is red as a thing if nothing perceives it? But it extends to any possible thing you could ever propose as being truly out there. There is not a single thing you could ever say it is that isn't in some way perceptually based. It is all vibrating strings? Describe the strings as things. See it immediately fall into something based in observation and relativity.

@nuwu It's not pedantry. The past is only a thing from the perspective of the finite self. If you are talking about the Absolute, there is no such thing as linear time from that PoV, which is what Leo means.

But he hasn't. If there is an objective "thing" that is real outside of observation then he ought to be able to say what it is. Don't just assume it if you can't come up with even a single thing it could possibly be. This: "there are objects "out there" beyond what appears" is impossible. Objects are things. What ARE the things. Sensing is done by nothing AKA consciousness. What is sensed is the something that consciousness manifests as, as in a dream. This is a dream basically, that's why there's nothing external because it's mind observing manifestations of mind. There is only mind so you can't get away from it to some external thing beyond that.

But try anyway. Because you will find that any possible "thing", even given infinite attempts at guessing, is something that exists via observation and is therefore a perception. Consciousness isn't a thing that exists, it's nothing. Perceptions exist and perceptions come with perceiver because perceiving requires both components. Empty a finite mind of ALL observed content and there is just a gap like general anaesthetic. Because consciousness is empty. You see that?