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You do realize, that you could sit around shooting up heroin every day, and you're never NOT going to be "existence itself". You can't NOT be no matter whether you want to be or not... The aftermath of a high dose breakthrough was very bizarre for me. I am very glad it faded. I think it probably always does... I've heard Rupert Spira say that happens, like a cloudy day, the clear sky is still there.

It's a derealizing existence following something like that. It only fades (the derealization) with the fading of memory. I don't think it's pleasant at all to be in that state in every day life.

The point of it is that you are brain dead with hopes a future generation will be able to revive you. A number of people have come back from something close to total brain death... And from that PoV there's just no break... Not cryogenics yet.

It's all completely irrelevant. What do you think you have to show for your efforts? You are completely 100% = to Adolf Hitler. It is annoying to forget the experiences, largely for intellectual reasons.

He doesn't. Don't drug your dad.

Don't drug people, let people who want to do these things get into it by themselves.

Timelessness like spacelessness can be experienced. However, the implications of it I am really not sure about. For example, is there only this right now. Or are the ancient Romans simultaneously cheering at the colloseum? Did the past actually come and go or is it happening at this same exact moment: All events all at once. The illusion of time caused by memory, whereby although each moment has happened simultaneously, each moment has with it for the individual a larger span of memory. Do you know the sort of infinite slices on Salvia? Or like when you look into opposing mirrors in a changing room and it seems to go on forever. Is it such that time exists in slices like the eternal mirror, each simultaneously existent, but containing one singular perceptual happening? Are each of our individual experiences happening within divided slices of the only right now there is? With timelessness I see a possibility of something like a movie reel running through a projector. The static fact of the projector maintains the fact of timelessness but the reel is truly moving and events come and go. Or is it more like the eternally sliced changing room mirrors? Spacelessness: Is the nothing which we are many nothingnesses? See the idea of Atman. It appears finite and limited: I cannot currently see through your eyes, and of course you can say we share the same I. But you see the apparent limitation present... Is that linked in and explained by the fact of timelessness, or something else?

@Tim R I don't understand this, I understand the static feel of timelessness.

The 5G reptilian microchips from outer space are coming. Biden is a reptilian shapeshifter from the Earth's core semt to maintain the lie of Globe Earth and big pharma. Wake up sheeple.

My friend was institutionalised after using acid. He has "555" (some weird Jesus number thing) plastered everywhere and believes in reptilian overlords. The spiritual delusions pre acid even, caused him to believe Satanists were attempting to abduct my brother through Instagram. Imagine a schizo basically being told they're in the Truman show and only they exist lmfao.

There are plenty of non-psychotic people who get wasted every weekend. Many non-psychotic people who smoke. Spirituality does not cure autism, and makes schizophrenia worse.

Leo believes the former I think, from what I can discern.

Spirituality is mostly for people with serious mental illness. Connor Murphy is an example of a typical spiritual person... It will not cure anyone of their psychosis/schiz/whatever else. People with mental illness ought to steer very clear. Humans are evolved to not ever experience certain things.

Take your meds. Also, many people are currently in prison for murdering innocents. For them evil acts are fun times.

@Kay100 It IS illness. 100000%.

I'm not sure of this as I see it could be two ways. In my direct experience there is only this right now, not 10 years ago... So I wonder if it is like a blob that keeps changing shape, or if it has already been all shapes it will ever be and that all those things do exist simultaneously.

About half of all posters go through bouts of blatant psychosis, and are told to do some useless meditations... One dude was arrested by cops flailing around on the floor because of "God" and put in an asylum. I'm not really sure why Connor Murphy was criticized considering by the looks of things, basically the entire userbase is in the same headspace. Leo is never psychotic but likes to stick to an ultimate truth. If someone commits or wants to commit suicide, for Leo it means nothing because death isn't real. But obviously he can't say this outright.

This is definite mental illness, you need to see a DOCTOR not ask Leo about the delusions. This is dangerous for others as well as yourself.

All things are finite that's why they're perceptible. The infinite is what "I" is.

Nothingness ultimately, I suspect. I don't know if it was something even possible to misinterpret or hallucinate... Your eyes can't see your eyes (without a mirror of course). But what if your eyes were imaginary and so far back that any thing that's a thing AT ALL is in front. ANY thing. Then wtf is that if ALLLLL things are always in front? Must be nothing... Must be... Because any possible conceivable thing is guaranteed to be in front of this.

This. There's no difference between a car and a thought, or an emotion and a brain, both are equally objects. These are all somethings. And the Subject, is void, nil, nothing. Which is without limitation, hence infinite (NOT finite). When an object is not perceived, including """mind""" things like thoughts not just "matter", it is undifferentiated from the Subject because it is nothing and the Subject is ALSO nothing. That is it.

You know it's true mate. 99% of people who meditate never sit down for a bit then blurt out "holy fuck everything is just existence" or whatever. It just doesn't work. And of the people it does work for in that way, you surely have noticed they are consistently bipolar or schizophrenic etc (which is not average brain chem). Especially if you've used DMT etc you know meditating does not cause a DMT trip to occur.

This seems like mental illness IMO. You shouldn't be caught up in these things I don't think. Neither you nor Leo can "become conscious enough" to end the universe in any way that is any different from how a person dying ends the universe.

People "following" Leo are people who meditate (meditation does nothing for people with average brain chemistry). If you're average, only doping reduces you down to a point where some truths can be known for certain. God in the sky judging people is sheer faith. You can't verify it or the miracles for yourself. OP actually says he experienced some apparition, but most people are just blindly following some BS in a book. It isn't faith to say there is existence. There isn't faith involved in saying there is experience. There isn't faith in the fact that you only interface with reality via experience... These are some of many core truths.

No it isn't. There's a good reason ONLY Idealist types of worldviews are possible to debate with Materialists in a serious manner without being instantly ridiculed. It's based in sheer proof via direct experience, and anyone who is alive can verify the claims easily.