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Yeah, I mean it would take half a second to clear the difference, as you did just now. It was quite horrible for me during some periods. NOTHING worse than the two bad DMT trips I had, but horrifying revelations. I immediately escaped back into reality via some Netflix. After the trip which caused me to research monism, I was "out of it" for quite a while. That was unpleasant indeed, there is nothing nice about feeling one with random cars passing by and such. The fact is, this society is not crafted in such a way to where you can live in that mode in harmony. The way society is set up creates an extreme juxtaposition between an "enlightened" mode of being, and functioning within that society. You simply cannot function in normal modern society sitting around in a circle meditating all day. You cannot connect with any of your peers (AKA, as you would say, other elements of yourself). It was probably different in ancient Asia. The Gorillaz song "Feel Good Inc" is actually about that. The floating island represents "real" happiness, and everyone is stuck in the hedonist tower of quick dopamine surges from sex and drugs etc.

@Yoremo No, I'm not of the mindset of the type of people who fall into traps. I don't believe in self help. As said previously it's like selling water by the river... And the buyer market within that industry is very predictable. You know, attending seminars, "The Power of Now" and "Winning Friends and Influencing People" on their bookcase. Probably natty lifting, meditating, doesn't believe in drinking alcohol, might be wary of even drinking caffeine. You can build up a great prototype of a self help industry "mark".

@Yoremo This channel will explain better than me: https://m.youtube.com/c/JamesJani/videos I don't sell products within this industry, but as said I literally sell online courses as a career. I make a full time income... Really the weight loss industry is more lucrative than any of this, but also insanely competitive. Anybody with a serious problem is in what's called a "desperate market". Fat people who want to be thin and beautiful, men losing their hair wanting to grow it back. Many examples. In a desperate market people are willing to pay big bucks for a solution, because as said they are desperate.

See: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dmLTLkCBSN8 Really, many videos from that channel. I guess this guy was a "mark" previously. I understand this industry well, I've seen Owen Cook have people PAY to WORK FOR HIM. And they thank him for the opportunity. These are cult member type cattle-people. It's such an oddity. PUA = SCAM. Self help = SCAM. Get rich quick = SCAM. Law of Attraction = SCAM.

Literally equivalent to the people who watch Tony Robbins talk about nothing and then claim "omg my life is transformed, thank you Tony!" People get a dopamine surge from watching some video or reading some book, and think everything is changed for them now. Until the next book or video comes out: "This NEW course is the ACTUAL answer!" It's an insane grift and I cannot even comprehend the psychology involved in the people who fall for it. All failure is placed upon the student (not trying hard enough, not believing hard enough, etc). It's the same people targeted by the Law of Attraction SCAM industry. The psychology of these people is such that even a giant sign saying "THIS IS A SCAM" would not deter them. It's unsettling.

That is not the same as what Leo preaches. For Leo you can't see. You're just a prop, he could stab you and it's like stabbing the ground, no pain happens period. Only if he, Leo, is stabbed, does pain happen. It's so easy to see the difference, between all experience being within your mind, vs the experience had by you being the end of... The only way to not see the obvious difference in stance is to purposefully play with words, when what is being said is so blatant. Basically mix and matching absolute and relative terms to be manipulative. "All experience IS had by you!" "You? I didn't mean you, I meant you!"

No... Only "marks" buy into self help. Anyone with a copy of "how to win friends" on their bookshelf is a certified mark.

Yep you understand exactly what I mean now. Leo does not believe your dad, even relatively speaking, has experience. Not just that your dad's experience is inside your own mind, but that he straight up doesn't have one and neither do you. That ONLY Leo does.

I actually own an online course and make a good full-time living from it. My course is totally unrelated to spirituality, and I work with someone who has university credentials professional accreditations in that field. This particular field (all aspects of self help) is mostly scummy con artistry. It's like RSD or Tai Lopez type shit. You get the most desperate "marks" following people like that. I don't understand the psychology of said marks, but they're like cult member types who never achieve anything ever, and just claim every single course and video ever "changed their life".

There is a slight difference... Both angles defer any form to imagination, so every element of your dad like the way he looks, things he says, etc, is ultimately imaginary... Leo's extra step is that not only is that the case, but you (as the only conscious being in existence) never experience what your "dad" claims to be experiencing. Or in more obvious terms, when your dad says he sees, he's a lying NPC. This what you say, and what I experience, is more akin to a notion of what Rupert Spira might teach, whereby upon death the apparent walls of a room (which would be your "self") dissolve. Or how I might say it, which is that it is somewhat like being a person is being "Brahman" looking through the mask of a human being and identity. When the mask of the human is gone, there is just Brahman... Experientially a mockery of monks and whatever else, as they are wasting their lives meditating when all of that spiritual practice must by necessity die to reveal "Brahman".

Right, time is not experienced except through consciousness, if a person ends, time is not experienced. When a new dream might start, the experience of that new dream will be literally instant as a result. What Leo is saying is that your dad never has a POV ever, on any level at all. This is what he is telling people right now. He thinks you stab him (Leo's body) and pain happens, but stab your dad and no pain happens. I think you are communicating the idea of the same exact entity experiencing anything, regardless of who it is happening to, without that extra factor.

It's not impressive swindling sick desperate people. Literally it's incredibly easy to do, targeting desperate markets like balding men or fat people etc is always lucrative. If you have desperate people following you, you can sell them anything. And they'll THANK you for the privilege of being allowed to pay you money. You can sell them air.

I remember a moment of existential crisis "awakening". I don't really remember the headspace, but I remember realizing nobody could helo me, no doctor, no friend, no family... Because they are me. Speaking to them would be like having a conversation in your own head. I STILL didn't have the notion that only my experience is real. But I text my friend something about how I need to go to hospital, and realized the futility in it as there IS nothing but me. End of. So talking to someone else is literally like talking to somebody imaginary in a dream. But no I didn't think they didn't have experience, just that I was having them and vice versa they are having mine right now. Bizarre periods of time... I don't really remember, but it was something unpleasant. Now that I don't remember I can enjoy moving about and watching cartoons and such. I wonder if both can be done at once... Either way I will surely die at some point so who cares. All of this is, I suppose, anxiety people have causing them to try to anticipate the unknown.

You will need to pay 50K for this sort of wisdom. Cough up squirt.

How about 100,000? Take out a loan, when you find out reality isn't real it won't matter. Maybe 500,000.

He doesn't believe you exist, it's that simple. If you see his latest blog post and watch the entire video, he's just teaching as something to do. He doesn't believe there's any experience but his. That's it.

Paying someone imaginary for a course? If only you exist, you are more awake than Leo because Leo doesn't exist, so who is going to buy such a thing? Lmao.

That's what I think too (based on how time seems to work). Leo says there aren't simultaneous experiences. I've seen his blog and he's been getting a bit over the top with the drug use. He's getting super high on research chems and having one on one conversations with God about how they're both narcissists, and how that's a great trait, or whatever. He's going to completely lose his mind if nobody says like, you know, maybe don't do drugs. He smokes DMT in nightclubs. This will become dangerous lol, I don't think he's in a good place mentally rn.

People are rewording for Leo to turn his belief into just basically normal Advaita or Buddhist tradition. I listened to his entire video, and all the posts he's made here. He explicitly does not believe in simultaneous appearances. Just what he is aware of presently is the only thing. He said explicitly other people aren't seeing at the same time.

He said that you don't wake from a dream wondering if the people you hurt in your dream felt pain. I'm pretty sure he's equating all of us to essentially, robots of his own making, where no matter what he does to us there is no suffering that happens. As only what Leo is aware of is real. If not, it is a very easy thing to explain the oneness you are talking about. If he meant that, he would have said so. He has also previously believed he could gain magical powers like healing and telepathy, so he's not infallible to losing his mind to all the hallucinogens.

I know that. Leo's message from his videos and posts is that if he shoots you in the foot, no feeling happens, but if you shoot him feeling happens.

That is the only but most critical piece of information. It is whether a person is a solipsist as in "I am seeing my screen, but you aren't seeing yours", which is demonstrably false as you are yourself aware; or whether they believe you may well be seeing your screen but that the "dreamer" is the one doing so. You probably know about p-zombies? I think Leo is of that belief. Although he could also be thinking of each moment laid out in a linear line such that you can go through each life and see from each apparent PoV. I managed to catch his video and did not find him clear on this but I think he believes we're p-zombies. You have to use this terminology to have a conversation but in the usual mystic way, and in my own experience, there was nothing saying other people must be p-zombies. More like a tree with many leaves. It has nothing to do with the people being separate from what is whole and one, this is just the terminology to have a conversation (terms like "you" or "others").

That is not what Leo is saying, he is saying he believes what you think you are seeing right now is a lie, as only what he sees exists. People are watching this guy lose his mind from drugs and encouraging it? It doesn't seem like a good thing to do for someone lol. My ego would not care much about other people, I'm basically a hermit. Feeling at one with inanimate walls and cars was what bothered me. In my own experience, the existence of moments outside of this one right now was never shown to be false somehow. It's very difficult to remember as this is an experience from April or May 2020... But it was more like a sense that WE are one and are existence itself, since when I came back I wrote a trip report to other people rather than thinking they're p-zombies. So I guess as in, like I'm currently "talking to myself" whereby I post this, and then I read it from your end. Anyone who gets "there", I wrote shortly following, is completely equal such that a lifelong monk and serial killer are completely equal because all monkness and killerness is gone "there" and only their shared "beingness" remains. Something like that. I did not even know about nonduality at this time, so I called it Monism and it's only following this that I Googled for Monistic religions and found Advaita... My analysis that I wrote was of a tree, where we can believe we are leaves or realize ourselves to be the tree. Pushing any further on the dosing is blackout or whiteout city. I did not learn anything from exploding into neon and then blacking out on DMT. It was like being anaesthetized.

Birth and death as a cycle is not considered as your physical birth and death only, but every single moment, as it is ever-changing. If you identify with a self, it is subject to constant change and is thus constantly dying and being reborn. However, if you do not identify with any self (Anatta) and recognize there is no self, and hence nobody to live or die, the cycle is broken. The cycle continues but you recognize you are not what is living and dying. It's legit as simple as that.

He is stating clearly that he realized everyone (such as you and me) are imaginary p-zombies. He's being very clear. Read between the lines, he's talking to himself. He does not believe you are reading anything he's posting or watching any video he makes. I also took shit tonnes of drugs, nothing like that occurred, and it also never occured to Buddha or w.e. The usual mystic solipsism differs from Leo's, as they concede others are not p-zombies, but merely that the experiences of others are had by their Self or nothingness, depending on tradition as there's no-self in Buddhism.