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A lot of the lunacy might come down to the choice of wording? I prefer the term creation over imagination, as imagination carries with it some implied control. People go off the rails thinking if they just smoke some 5-MeO and "become God consciousness" they can perform magic like Harry Potter or some shit. Of course, when there are no boundaries or limits whatsoever, there is nothing to grab. Any border of thingness you may expect to grab in order to manipulate you find is simply not there. You're at the full mercy of unstoppable creation, of Brahman. Experientially it is very frightening and just about the most alien thing anything could ever experience.

That would be the accurate interpretation, "Brahman without attribute" (Nirguna Brahman). When people only memorize Leo videos without actually having been through any sort of serious ego death, there is great misinterpretation. The last video I saw with Leo he was discussing riding the wave of a reality which is simply unfolding. This state of being is the stereotypical "zen" state. Ideas of power and control are bizarre, twisted, and often delusional. Desire for control is very un-zen. The entire new age movement is jam packed with magical claims which take serious insight and turn it into a "soccer mom bookshelf bestseller". The type of things James Randi debunked have nothing to do with genuine spiritual realizations. You don't smoke some DMT then gain magical powers like Hogwarts or some shit. An example of a genuine realization might be that literally every form is subjective. A tape measure can read 30 inches, but the perception of how large that 30 inches seems can alter, because of course the tape measure itself is a tool in physical space. So you see that while the measure still reads 30 inches, there is a subjective element to it. I used that in particular as it relates to "how you dream up reality".

I'm not so sure even the whole can "create what it WANTS". Think about even fully lucid dreams. The sense of control comes from a thought lagging behind the manifestation. So the idea "I want to manifest a pot of gold" comes prior to its manifestation inside the dream. But where was the "choice" to have that idea to begin with? The idea/thought just appeared. At SOME POINT in the process something has to just appear. A desire has to appear. When recognition of a manifestation happens at the same time as the idea of it, without the lag, we feel we are not controlling that. And that's still making concessions to linear time. Consider an infinite block without boundary, already existent...

The misconception you describe is probably to do with lacking first hand experience, which means a person can't really separate the jiva (which is like, the body, the ego) from the absolute totality of Brahman... In other words they can't see it as an appearance, and mistake that body or ego for the entity that is eternal and unchanging. The body like all material objects is within Brahman. The body is as much a physical object as a boulder or plank of wood. There is nothing special about the material body. The nature of all matter is Brahman. The ego is Brahman. Every thought and desire is one of the many appearances of Brahman. These very enlightened people realize the body for what it is, which is just another appearance. I think one of them actually, when dying and his followers were all concerned, said something like: "Don't worry, it's just a body!" Because the essential nature of what all of existence is, is eternal. He recognized that his body, ravaged with disease, was just like a rock being eroded by waves or something; as in, just another appearance which was not that essential is-ness.

Of course... Matter is a representation of the activity of pure consciousness/Brahman. Represented to us living beings in perceptions like sight and sound. E.g. the grey matter in our heads is a symbol representing the act of consciousness person-ing. When altering the brain, you are altering a symbol representing an element of consciousness. This is why drugs and brain damage etc alter the human experience, as the matter being altered literally is consciousness and not separate from that. Like how desktop icons on a computer are symbols representing computer code. Altering the symbols is altering code. The symbol is representative. For that reason, the material world provides a fantastic and valid insight into the workings of consciousness, and many clues may be taken from it... The material is NOT separate from consciousness. They are the same thing. One does not act and then the other follows. They are a single unit...

By hyperbolic geometry do you mean psychedelic visuals? The mistake made very often in science (not universally - see Schrödinger for example), is down to a complete misunderstanding of what consciousness IS. If you ask a scientist to define it, they will usually give demonstrably wrong answers. One reason being that they see the contents of consciousness without recognizing the emptiness the appearances are within. Hence conclusions such as believing dementia altering behavior proves the brain "produces" consciousness... The true definition of consciousness is not useful in science because they only care about saving lives relatively, etc. Overall the model of materialism and idealism is functionally identical. What is different is the fundamental substance OF what these things are. Which you can find to be inherently empty themselves. "Consciousness" isolated by itself is nothing, no substance. Its contents are not made out of tangible physical things either. There is no substance at all. Consider literal total unity... If everything is one, matter literally IS the activity of consciousness, and its appearance as somethinge with tangible form is made of perception only. If you think mind is real and matter is fake, that's just materialism reversed, and not actual unity. So, any sort of scientific experiment or discovery you make, is a discovery about "consciousness", or better put Brahman (I prefer that term to God, as God is too personified culturally). Literally everything in existence is Brahman. It doesn't matter whether it's a microscopic particle or a planet, its nature is empty, and it is Brahman.

@lostingenosmaze Leo will probably be able to tell you. His videos are super long, I don't recall now which one it was. But that summarizes magick well. The miracle of levitation is performed by picking up the candle with your hands. When the jiva/ego starts to think IT has control, people start spouting off The Matrix tier falsehoods and New Age cope. Someone very recently posted a video by Swami Sarvapriyananda on this topic, but in that case was on the topic of why reading minds is not possible.

@Loba Science is the healer bro. What are medicines made of? What are bodies made of? Medicines and bodies are "consciousness" (Brahman). Leo realized God levitates a candle by picking it up with his hands. Not by focusing on it real hard with psy powers etc. The world around you is not separate from "God". Science is direct exploration of God.

What did I have to do with the locking and unlocking? Half the threads on the forum are locked because you lock everything to feel important or whatever. Pure unadulterated ego. More ego than a random stranger on the street... Stop with this.

Leo wouldn't appreciate that. I've had quite good exchanges with him, probably because we've both used psychs a lot... Poor Leo has even had to unlock the threads you randomly locked for no reason to fuel this constant egoic power trip. Maybe stop that? Magick = delusion = ignorance = jiva level thoughts. Jiva trying to control Brahman. How can images on the screen seize control of the screen? You're in Maya... These ideas make a mockery of nondual tradition.

Dude lol... We just suffered a global pandemic. Why didn't one of these healers in the "hollow bone state", walk around a bunch of hospital wards and heal everyone. Instead we were locked up indoors for two years. It's not legit bro...

Psychic powers have nothing to do with any form of realization. Magick makes a laughing stock out of all non-dual traditions, especially the excuses used to avoid proving claimed powers. Guess how "God" levitates a candle? He uses hands to pick it up... Or maybe a hurricane... Or tying it to a bird... Or maybe giving it little RC helicopter propellors... Or maybe some of that invisible string magicians use, hm...

@Inliytened1 Healing abilities is delusion. It resides alongside telekinesis and other forms of magick where the ego attempts to control the whole. All thoughts and desires are always going to be appearances. When the appearances think they can control what they appear in, that's when lunacy happens I'm reminded of when Leo in a state of psychedelic delirium attempted to levitate a candle. Then, he picked up the candle and laughed: "This is how God levitates a candle."

Salvia Divinorum completely ends the brain's ability to process depth. The entire visual field becomes one incomprehensible flat blob image.

Yeah, there's no other way it could ever be if a person is identifying entirely with the entire unit. You can only ever identify anything as better or worse from a position of splitting the singular unit into this and that. Without a this and a that, there's no comparisons to be drawn. Hence the life of a bacteria is as important as your entire life, is as important as the entire universe. My experience of this changed my view on reality permanently for sure.

That would be the only accurate view, also. No matter how "awakened" a person is, once the person is gone (which is necessary in total ego dissolution of course) what is left is completely identical to everyone and everything else. Anyone hoping that they will do a bunch of "spiritual" shit in this life and somehow receive a reward upon their death for doing so, is sorely mistaken indeed. Lmao. The #1 takeaway for me was always that. And that I am no more important than a single grain of sand, and also no less important than an entire Solar System.

These sorts of things are the end game topics that sages debate. I wonder if there is any way of definitively knowing? We have all experienced the eternal Now. And yet, is there anything in direct experience that could prove a discernment between all events occuring simultaneously, vs. each "Now" event being created on the fly. Hm......

You haven't done anything wrong lol. There's nothing in any of your posts that could be construed as offensive.

Intelligence is a creation. Understanding is a creation. Control is a creation. The constant undulations of dualities appearing and subsequently collapsing cannot be understood because understanding is, of course, a duality. It's made of thought which appears. Understanding only happens in the presence of something limited appearing. Yes even on 5-MeO-DMT etc when people describe white void. White is limited. Even seeing black, the black has to be NOT blue, NOT red, in order to appear as black. The correct way to see infinity is to be completely blind... To hear infinity, deaf. Etc. Because all something is finite. To "become" infinity, even though you technically are just like random heroin junkies are, would be to become nothing. Because only nothing is not finite or limited in form... Probably the blackouts or whiteouts on DMT and 5-MeO-DMT respectively, are a true complete merge with infinity, rather than the trips that are recalled. When tripping that hard, it is like toeing the event horizon of a black hole, we are sort of exploring it but if entered, we cease to exist. Deep sleep and anaesthesia are more "nondual" than any trip. But obviously the human ego doesn't see value in that (or in the psychedelic blackouts) because it wants to know something. The human desire for knowledge is SO unbelievably strong, that even when people are STABBED OR SHOT and dying, it's common for them to say "why?" Even when dying the human desires understanding over almost anything else...

My grandpa has tinnitus since years ago. He's 83 now. I think over time a person gets used to it as far as I know from him.

Talking from the inside of it, the stigma against medication for mental health is insane and needs to stop. I went without medication for about 8 years since it began solely because medication is demonized, and I believed the propaganda against it. I suffered much more through those years than I would have if I had done what a doctor recommended which is medication. I take my brain medicine every single day just as I would take heart medicine if I was diagnosed with a heart condition. It is especially bad when it relates to the type of issues I have, as anxiety and depressive type disorders are seen as something you can "just get over". It's not treated seriously at all. Hyperventilating with fear every time I walk into an office, or when I was a student being unable to enter a classroom, seems to fly under the radar of receiving the type of care it ought to.

@Inliytened1 What psychedelics are good for is to heighten acceptance. They do not lessen the mental illness, but may lessen the suffering resulting from failing to accept yourself. Understanding reality is merely unfolding by itself, I do not feel there is anything to fight or that anything could be different than it was always going to be... I still feel the symptoms, but less so the self judgement that would typically accompany it, where I chastise myself for being so weird etc. @Loba I think attitudes to mental health are dangerous for reasons you mentioned... If you have heart disease, obviously you pop a pill for it daily. But with mental illness there's this delusion that you can "will it away" by thinking the perfect thought or whatever. Something that I am realizing is that the more unity is understood, the more the materialist framework makes sense: e.g. matter IS NOT SEPARATE FROM MIND, meaning that you cannot alter one without altering the other. Because they are the same exact thing... I don't think we have control over mind any more than we have control over abilities to fly or levitate objects or bend objects like The Matrix. As material is essentially a perceived representation of the dream. The grey squiggly brain a GUI representing awareness "person-ing". As such, a lot could be learned from observing the material world, when it is understood that matter IS mind. Not matter doing something then mind following, or vice versa. The material world could tell us a LOT about the workings of "God" and death etc. when this is completely understood and explored. Altering the brain with medicine IS altering this experience of "person-ing". And all of us are merely riding a wave of unfolding reality anyway...

They ask at regular intervals. But of course directly before and after are among those intervals. A problem I found, which I tried to mitigate using the boxes for additional comments, is that it does not take into account general life happenings. IIRC this was during COVID and the lockdown rules were changing frequently. But also for example, when I went back on medication, I had a follow up quiz some time after. There was no place to ask whether I have altered any medication I am taking etc. So improvements I would have to report based on the timescale they ask (usually "in the last two weeks") were actually due to the Zoloft I was now taking again. I added this information in the boxes but I doubt many bother. In my own experience, Western medicine is a superior means of treatment. There was nowhere in the questionnaires where this experience would be reflected... If you are using psychedelics very regularly etc, there is an effect similar to when schizophrenics stop taking meds and are convinced they are better. Despite outwardly spiralling... You don't notice the illness creeping back up on you because it is quite slow... Look at Connor Murphy. He was completely psychotic, convinced that he was completely mentally well doing better than ever. It happens. There's a lot I could write, but definitely I would recommend Western medicine. I would not recommend psychedelic drugs for mental health issues. No way. It might help with self acceptance WITH having the condition though.

Mentally ill people need medical intervention, it is really that simple. Talk therapy is just quacks from college with a Cornflakes box "degree". Psychiatry is practiced by doctors who have graduated from medical school, and are legally allowed to prescribe any medicines their client requires. I have certainly lost my life to AvPD (as in the life I would have had without developing this condition). Western medicine allows me to do normal day to day tasks without having a panic attack, which means I can at least live and exist without panicking every time I pass someone on the street. Psychedelics do not work for mental illness. I took part in these studies actually. What they do is send you questionnaires with sliding scale answers. Firstly if you take one of these tests 3 times in the very same day, most likely you will get a different result. But removing outliers, it also did not take into account the "afterglow" effect... When I was using psychedelics often, I stopped taking my anti-anxiety medicine (Zoloft). I answered the questionnaire as though I was miraculously cured etc. Well then 6 months later or something like that, I was randomly becoming suicidal every other week or so. I went back on medication and became well again after ~2 to 4 weeks... It's like when schiz people stop taking meds, you don't always notice as you're slowly slipping back into illness.

NOT IN A GROUP but I became three entities at once. I became infinite awareness, some sort of hallucinated deity, and my ego self, all at the same time. It caused a strange effect because my infinite self was above the hallucinated deity, but my ego felt below it. I spoke to the deity which was my ego self talking, and spoke to it as though it were a superior to me. While simultaneously being it and encompassing it, and being more powerful than the deity. I suppose the closest way to imagine that, is to imagine you are an infinitely powerful fly on the wall watching a conversation between two aspects of yourself.