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Imagine trying to go to work tripping heavily on DMT lol.

I really think OP is gonna start selling coaching sessions soon. Idno why.

I don't really think it's possible to not suffer, and I can explain... Of course there are people who self immolate or w.e. and can perform pain-defying feats. But the reason I don't think you can actually escape suffering is because any possible thing is the unfolding of reality, and appearance... So when you are retreating far back being the passive observer, things of all sorts still appear. Negative reactions are themselves appearances right? And they can and will just happen as reality unfolds exactly as it does and should and will........ It's just adding or not adding an interpretation to a sheer appearance, which might be pain for ex. Blood tests freak me out...

Well, he often gets carried away with strange things then not so much. Remember he IS getting high as fuck constantly, you can't expect total consistency. Yeah one week he can heal people miraculously with his mind, another he's talking about why you can't make money appear in your bedroom drawer. NOBODY has an experience like any of these, and then comes back and never thinks of it or interprets it. The very first words when coming back are sometimes along the lines of "what the FUCK was that?", immediately inquisitive, immediately trying to make sense of what, at the time, you just watched unfold without interpretation, but rather sheer emotional reaction or whatever.

Some dude posted similar here very recently. I felt pretty sure he was a scumbag about to try to sell some shit, don't know if he did... It is annoying though. I wonder if any of these people have a single answer for what exactly it is they think anyone is going to achieve with their "enlightenment" when all is said and done. Even Leo, does he have an answer? I mean at the end of the day, it is true that you aren't actually getting somewhere. And to a small extent you also never actually know anything... Because obviously you don't have to meditate or take psychedelics to be conscious (or be consciousness if you are thinking like a guru), and any knowledge is not any less of a mirage than the images you're looking at around you or the sounds you're hearing... All of these things are tangible things. All things that are in fact "things", including tidbits of knowledge, are something known by awareness... Same with people. There isn't any permanent person from moment to moment, just changing all the time. What there is, is patterns, so when you get to know someone you can sort of predict "that guy hates pizza, he's going to order something else". And this "knowledge" is like changing the patterns of the same type of appearances. So the ones which do appear might be a bit different. Just do the drugs if you're that bothered. Would never waste my time for some BS meditation or "enlightenment" that is just going to vanish like all appearances anyway. Boring practice.

Delusions and thoughts are part of the mirage anyway, so maybe none of this matters. E.g. if you got a screen wirh the words "this is a screen" written on it, if you look at the words you miss they're just appearing on screen and so miss the screen... Same if the displayed text was a lie, you'd still be looking at the words. Knowledge is tangible, has to be on and in that screen. It's just literally being pure and simple which is not a perceptible object but the thing you are. Hm.

What about the little added bits though? You blow up... Then return and make sense of what the actual fuck just happened. And then there's room for little additions...

Why are you not afraid of a thought ending? If you are thinking about penguins right now (and you probably are because I just put it into your mind hehe), why aren't you petrified of the thought of penguins disappearing, and say, thinking about elephants instead? Why don't you cry over the death of the thought of penguins when the thought of elephants overwrites it and the thoughts of penguins vanish? Of course because we recognize that when we stop thinking about penguins, we don't go anywhere. We don't die. The thought about penguins goes away and we remain, and we then think about elephants... We don't believe we are the thought of penguins, and that we end when the thought of them does. Irrationally, unlike the thought of penguins we actually identify this character as being what we are. Just like the thought of penguins, our entire human character is made of nothing more substantial or real than that... We are made of whatever perception is currently in our mind just like imagined penguins are made of imagination, and a sort of thread which is memory, which threads through all of these completely different moments in our lives and creates a kind of storybook which gives us an idea of what we are... We grow attached to this "storybook of me", and unlike the penguins we grow to really believe that it IS us. And that unlike the thought of penguins which passes without incident or affect upon us, when this storybook ends, we come to think we DO end. We think this is somehow different to when the penguin thought ends and the elephant thought starts. When it is completely identical. The entire character is going to die forever. It is going to be completely extinguished, without any trace of your wants, loves, accomplishments, fears, anything. It isn't going to live in heaven for infinite years with your dead relatives. It isn't going to hell either, or purgatory. It is going to vanish. Completely... But you are misidentifying what you are, and this is why there is extreme fear surrounding this, because you cannot possibly believe that just like the ending of the penguins you imagine (who of course aren't living in heaven when you stop imagining them), the imagining of this character will also pass entirely without incident or interruption. Think for a second what it would be like if you could not form memories AT ALL. No other difference except this. Not even a nanosecond of memory could ever be formed by you. Consider how in every passing moment, you could not possibly know what had come before, and whatever had come before is entirely vanquished and replaced with what is now... Only for that now to be instantaneously vanquished too, and replaced, ad nauseum. It would be like being born for the first time every single moment, and dying in that same moment. Because there is no way for a thread to tie the moments together into the storybook of self that we all carry... Now imagine that is the case at your physical death. The string ceases to thread, and the next moment starts with total vanquishing of what was prior... You have not actually gone anywhere. The storybook has gone. Like the penguins. And that's it........

There is a different type of knowledge from usual knowledge. You can ask anyone this and they will agree, that you can't be "deluding yourself" that you exist, for example... So there are certain types of knowing like that. Then after that, a lot of assumptions are made about some deeper elements. There's differences among various traditions because they theorize about things in different ways. I am sure the experience itself that is had is practically always the same. Which is like the total loss of border and solidity of things, and lost sense of any continuous self entity. Too difficult to remember enough about it... But you do lose all or most sense of your body and without that sense your perception of where awareness "is" just leaks out and isn't in any place at all. As opposed to feeling like it is in your skull or behind your eyes where we usually feel it to exist.

I’ve got a mate, right, who is staying in this big stately home, right, and I mean it’s bigger than Buckingham Palace this place, right. I went down there and from outside you go ‘Oh this is brilliant’. It’s like summit out of To the Manor Born. But then when you get in, it’s a wreck. No one’s doing any vaccing-up or anything, and there’s like rat poison everywhere, windows are smashed. Doors kicked in. I think they’re going to have it done up, but it’s going to cost like £80 million. I have got a little torch and we’re wandering around looking in all these different rooms, right, and I’m asking him ‘How’s it got in this state?’ And he was saying how it was a mental home at one point. And a place for drug addicts. Have you ever been in a hospital when it’s been shut down or a school when there’s no kids in it and it’s got that sort of bad atmosphere of weirdness? So we’re wandering about and I say, ‘What’s in this room?’ And we go in and all the floors are a wreck and rotten and stuff. And I looked at the wall and there was a little piece of paper stuck on the wall right, and I said, ‘What’s this here?’ And so I wandered over, right, got right up close to it and it says ‘Flies’, with an arrow. I thought, ‘That’s a bit weird.’ So I follow the arrow, which goes to this corner, where there’s a shelf with about three thousand dead flies on it. And a condom stuck on the top. That’s weird innit?

Fuck spirituality. Hermit life is comfy af. Socializing stops being fun after like, 13?

No point talking to anyone else. Why would you repeat shit to people who have had insights? It's actually cringe hearing about "muh God" sometimes, because it feels like "I know......."

It's somewhat difficult to explain a topic like this... I think any chatter on the topic should 99% of the time be aimed at the hardcore materialists... If someone already gets it, there's no point discussing anything with them really. We're largely circlejerking if that's the case. Materialists have strange ideas about what a different paradigm would mean. E.g. that it must mean they would be able to bend spoons with their mind or dodge bullets like The Matrix. In the distant past, people laughed at that priest Idealist guy by saying they should be able to chuck a brick at his head and it wouldn't hurt because it's not real.

I don't suspect this will be the case. Who knows. But I suspect like when this person first popped into the world, I'll be a completely blank slate... And maybe even a totally alien "universe" made of different senses.

Haha, might not be the oldest though.

Tbh. In a lucid dream I asked some dude if he could see me from his eyes. He said he could. And tbh it's like, maybe he really could... Of course I then wake up and it's just me again as per usual. But these subconscious characters that crop up. There is an intelligence to them in some way. Just as thoughts and things unfold and arise in "me" the person, in a logical and consistent manner in relation to the surroundings, these characters also can hold logical and sensical conversations... Maybe those people really are individuals in those dreams. Probably while we are awake even, there are subconscious processes. But in dreams we actually interact with them directly as though they were human.

I know that to be the case (that we are more like a board of directors than a single person)... Weird experiences with psychedelics, when multiple personalities spoke to each other at once. I suppose that is like a dream too... But I was aware of all at one time. The hallucination was that they were the Friends characters at Central Perk. On other psychs, have had multiple thought threads at once. I wonder where they go when they slip out of the forefront. This me talking now I suppose will slip back into that subconscious arena.

Wtf is love?... Srs.

I finished it and what I thought was, usually I try to imagine showing the episode to a hardcore Dawkins type, as preaching to the choir is redundant I think? I think I would have gone deeper into the yarn thing. I don't think people will be convinced from hearing "X is a figment of consciousness". I think there are probably ways to expand on that... Usually if I talk to people like that, you can show their idea has the same infinite regress issue of "where did God come from?" seen in Christianity etc... I.e. they dig down and down thinking that eventually they will find the most basest of substance....... And when they can't dig any deeper and the substance is irreducible, there will always still be "where did that come from?" or "what is that made from?"... The equality of consciousness and total nothingness was mentioned. I think that could be expanded further also... The fact of reality is that everything is like how a ghost passes through walls but forever in every direction. Never anything solid ever, no solid substance is ever reached... Emptiness is quite easy to showcase I think, if people imagine losing all their senses, what is left. And if they say ofc like "just black", black is a color, it's sight, still a thing. You have to remove that... Anyway... Lastly the telepathy talk. Not for me, I do think that is delusional. Not because it can't happen, but because it isn't going to happen here. As soon as you are a human figure on Earth you are a character in the dream and the dream's constraints apply. One of those being that as a human figure in this universe you can't suddenly fly around or read minds. These feats will never be demonstrated by any human in this universe... You can imagine it happening and in many ways that is the same, if you're schizo and totally believe you are flying around the sky when you're actually in a straitjacket in a padded cell... That is real too. But it isn't real in these confines that we are in as what is considered to be sane humans

Leo seems calm and mentally healthy in this video. Has he stopped using drugs as often? I am enjoying it, looking forward to discussing it.

Tbh the people I've told certain things to, did not like what was said. I did not like certain realizations gleamed from what these things try to edge people to. When someone has actually got what I said, they can become frightened and keep bringing it up because they are scared of the possibility. They make me feel like Satan in the Mysterious Stranger where the main character is horrified by Satan revealing he (the protagonist) is completely alone in existence. The character is "appalled" lmao.

Oh yeah like me. It's fun to see myself frightened to be judged by someone. It's sometimes amusing to be ugly and dumb. But there aren't many communities where people see the humor in that...

First thing I thought after a breakthrough was what a waste of time that sort of thing is... A whole lifetime spent sitting in silence and all of that is wiped without reward or any point to it at all, because obviously no remnant of any of your life or personality or behaviors or discipline remains when you are gone. The evil deeds of Adolf Hitler and your time spent meditating and being spiritual are completely wiped away, and neither of those individuals or any of their actions or deeds or thoughts etc exist at all anymore. Decades of just sitting there for payoff which, ironically you can't ever possibly receive, since you vanish the moment it is achieved... That's a rigged game. I would agree with Leo really. Just do some drugs if insanely curious enough, then fllush the lot and get on with life as a human.

What's the point? Waste of time lmao.

All so antithetical to the "mysticism" many on this same forum have experienced in some way. We ride a wave of unfolding reality. Something can only be regretted if you believe you are manipulating the unfolding, and you can only wish to be something "better" (on a truly deep level) if you think the unfolding is your own doing. Something can only not be "enough" if there is something to compare it against... Even a person who feels they are not enough is, as such, ironically enough. Because there isn't anything else against which the thing can be compared. Living a full life with low self esteem and anxiety, you are still enough. And being skinny, fat, ugly, obese, permavirgin, playboy, rich, poor, good, evil, shy, confident, still enough. I do think it's a good thing to realize, and you can relieve some of the anxious thoughts as you attempt to improve yourself, by understanding everything is going as it will. And then these thoughts might stop bothering you...