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What about the little added bits though? You blow up... Then return and make sense of what the actual fuck just happened. And then there's room for little additions...

Why are you not afraid of a thought ending? If you are thinking about penguins right now (and you probably are because I just put it into your mind hehe), why aren't you petrified of the thought of penguins disappearing, and say, thinking about elephants instead? Why don't you cry over the death of the thought of penguins when the thought of elephants overwrites it and the thoughts of penguins vanish? Of course because we recognize that when we stop thinking about penguins, we don't go anywhere. We don't die. The thought about penguins goes away and we remain, and we then think about elephants... We don't believe we are the thought of penguins, and that we end when the thought of them does. Irrationally, unlike the thought of penguins we actually identify this character as being what we are. Just like the thought of penguins, our entire human character is made of nothing more substantial or real than that... We are made of whatever perception is currently in our mind just like imagined penguins are made of imagination, and a sort of thread which is memory, which threads through all of these completely different moments in our lives and creates a kind of storybook which gives us an idea of what we are... We grow attached to this "storybook of me", and unlike the penguins we grow to really believe that it IS us. And that unlike the thought of penguins which passes without incident or affect upon us, when this storybook ends, we come to think we DO end. We think this is somehow different to when the penguin thought ends and the elephant thought starts. When it is completely identical. The entire character is going to die forever. It is going to be completely extinguished, without any trace of your wants, loves, accomplishments, fears, anything. It isn't going to live in heaven for infinite years with your dead relatives. It isn't going to hell either, or purgatory. It is going to vanish. Completely... But you are misidentifying what you are, and this is why there is extreme fear surrounding this, because you cannot possibly believe that just like the ending of the penguins you imagine (who of course aren't living in heaven when you stop imagining them), the imagining of this character will also pass entirely without incident or interruption. Think for a second what it would be like if you could not form memories AT ALL. No other difference except this. Not even a nanosecond of memory could ever be formed by you. Consider how in every passing moment, you could not possibly know what had come before, and whatever had come before is entirely vanquished and replaced with what is now... Only for that now to be instantaneously vanquished too, and replaced, ad nauseum. It would be like being born for the first time every single moment, and dying in that same moment. Because there is no way for a thread to tie the moments together into the storybook of self that we all carry... Now imagine that is the case at your physical death. The string ceases to thread, and the next moment starts with total vanquishing of what was prior... You have not actually gone anywhere. The storybook has gone. Like the penguins. And that's it........

There is a different type of knowledge from usual knowledge. You can ask anyone this and they will agree, that you can't be "deluding yourself" that you exist, for example... So there are certain types of knowing like that. Then after that, a lot of assumptions are made about some deeper elements. There's differences among various traditions because they theorize about things in different ways. I am sure the experience itself that is had is practically always the same. Which is like the total loss of border and solidity of things, and lost sense of any continuous self entity. Too difficult to remember enough about it... But you do lose all or most sense of your body and without that sense your perception of where awareness "is" just leaks out and isn't in any place at all. As opposed to feeling like it is in your skull or behind your eyes where we usually feel it to exist.

I’ve got a mate, right, who is staying in this big stately home, right, and I mean it’s bigger than Buckingham Palace this place, right. I went down there and from outside you go ‘Oh this is brilliant’. It’s like summit out of To the Manor Born. But then when you get in, it’s a wreck. No one’s doing any vaccing-up or anything, and there’s like rat poison everywhere, windows are smashed. Doors kicked in. I think they’re going to have it done up, but it’s going to cost like £80 million. I have got a little torch and we’re wandering around looking in all these different rooms, right, and I’m asking him ‘How’s it got in this state?’ And he was saying how it was a mental home at one point. And a place for drug addicts. Have you ever been in a hospital when it’s been shut down or a school when there’s no kids in it and it’s got that sort of bad atmosphere of weirdness? So we’re wandering about and I say, ‘What’s in this room?’ And we go in and all the floors are a wreck and rotten and stuff. And I looked at the wall and there was a little piece of paper stuck on the wall right, and I said, ‘What’s this here?’ And so I wandered over, right, got right up close to it and it says ‘Flies’, with an arrow. I thought, ‘That’s a bit weird.’ So I follow the arrow, which goes to this corner, where there’s a shelf with about three thousand dead flies on it. And a condom stuck on the top. That’s weird innit?

Fuck spirituality. Hermit life is comfy af. Socializing stops being fun after like, 13?

No point talking to anyone else. Why would you repeat shit to people who have had insights? It's actually cringe hearing about "muh God" sometimes, because it feels like "I know......."

It's somewhat difficult to explain a topic like this... I think any chatter on the topic should 99% of the time be aimed at the hardcore materialists... If someone already gets it, there's no point discussing anything with them really. We're largely circlejerking if that's the case. Materialists have strange ideas about what a different paradigm would mean. E.g. that it must mean they would be able to bend spoons with their mind or dodge bullets like The Matrix. In the distant past, people laughed at that priest Idealist guy by saying they should be able to chuck a brick at his head and it wouldn't hurt because it's not real.

I don't suspect this will be the case. Who knows. But I suspect like when this person first popped into the world, I'll be a completely blank slate... And maybe even a totally alien "universe" made of different senses.

Haha, might not be the oldest though.

Tbh. In a lucid dream I asked some dude if he could see me from his eyes. He said he could. And tbh it's like, maybe he really could... Of course I then wake up and it's just me again as per usual. But these subconscious characters that crop up. There is an intelligence to them in some way. Just as thoughts and things unfold and arise in "me" the person, in a logical and consistent manner in relation to the surroundings, these characters also can hold logical and sensical conversations... Maybe those people really are individuals in those dreams. Probably while we are awake even, there are subconscious processes. But in dreams we actually interact with them directly as though they were human.

I know that to be the case (that we are more like a board of directors than a single person)... Weird experiences with psychedelics, when multiple personalities spoke to each other at once. I suppose that is like a dream too... But I was aware of all at one time. The hallucination was that they were the Friends characters at Central Perk. On other psychs, have had multiple thought threads at once. I wonder where they go when they slip out of the forefront. This me talking now I suppose will slip back into that subconscious arena.

Wtf is love?... Srs.

I finished it and what I thought was, usually I try to imagine showing the episode to a hardcore Dawkins type, as preaching to the choir is redundant I think? I think I would have gone deeper into the yarn thing. I don't think people will be convinced from hearing "X is a figment of consciousness". I think there are probably ways to expand on that... Usually if I talk to people like that, you can show their idea has the same infinite regress issue of "where did God come from?" seen in Christianity etc... I.e. they dig down and down thinking that eventually they will find the most basest of substance....... And when they can't dig any deeper and the substance is irreducible, there will always still be "where did that come from?" or "what is that made from?"... The equality of consciousness and total nothingness was mentioned. I think that could be expanded further also... The fact of reality is that everything is like how a ghost passes through walls but forever in every direction. Never anything solid ever, no solid substance is ever reached... Emptiness is quite easy to showcase I think, if people imagine losing all their senses, what is left. And if they say ofc like "just black", black is a color, it's sight, still a thing. You have to remove that... Anyway... Lastly the telepathy talk. Not for me, I do think that is delusional. Not because it can't happen, but because it isn't going to happen here. As soon as you are a human figure on Earth you are a character in the dream and the dream's constraints apply. One of those being that as a human figure in this universe you can't suddenly fly around or read minds. These feats will never be demonstrated by any human in this universe... You can imagine it happening and in many ways that is the same, if you're schizo and totally believe you are flying around the sky when you're actually in a straitjacket in a padded cell... That is real too. But it isn't real in these confines that we are in as what is considered to be sane humans

Leo seems calm and mentally healthy in this video. Has he stopped using drugs as often? I am enjoying it, looking forward to discussing it.

Tbh the people I've told certain things to, did not like what was said. I did not like certain realizations gleamed from what these things try to edge people to. When someone has actually got what I said, they can become frightened and keep bringing it up because they are scared of the possibility. They make me feel like Satan in the Mysterious Stranger where the main character is horrified by Satan revealing he (the protagonist) is completely alone in existence. The character is "appalled" lmao.

Oh yeah like me. It's fun to see myself frightened to be judged by someone. It's sometimes amusing to be ugly and dumb. But there aren't many communities where people see the humor in that...

First thing I thought after a breakthrough was what a waste of time that sort of thing is... A whole lifetime spent sitting in silence and all of that is wiped without reward or any point to it at all, because obviously no remnant of any of your life or personality or behaviors or discipline remains when you are gone. The evil deeds of Adolf Hitler and your time spent meditating and being spiritual are completely wiped away, and neither of those individuals or any of their actions or deeds or thoughts etc exist at all anymore. Decades of just sitting there for payoff which, ironically you can't ever possibly receive, since you vanish the moment it is achieved... That's a rigged game. I would agree with Leo really. Just do some drugs if insanely curious enough, then fllush the lot and get on with life as a human.

What's the point? Waste of time lmao.

All so antithetical to the "mysticism" many on this same forum have experienced in some way. We ride a wave of unfolding reality. Something can only be regretted if you believe you are manipulating the unfolding, and you can only wish to be something "better" (on a truly deep level) if you think the unfolding is your own doing. Something can only not be "enough" if there is something to compare it against... Even a person who feels they are not enough is, as such, ironically enough. Because there isn't anything else against which the thing can be compared. Living a full life with low self esteem and anxiety, you are still enough. And being skinny, fat, ugly, obese, permavirgin, playboy, rich, poor, good, evil, shy, confident, still enough. I do think it's a good thing to realize, and you can relieve some of the anxious thoughts as you attempt to improve yourself, by understanding everything is going as it will. And then these thoughts might stop bothering you...

There is very literally a magic pill lmao.

Your own self when you look in your bathroom mirror is also a figment of your imagination. There aren't any physical forms period... You aren't being "led to infinite awakening" by fake human beings while you are the real person. Nothing is working to lead you to that. That's religious type mythological thought.

Probably cope tbh.

Weirdly, too much happiness can make us feel bad. Srs. You'd think extreme joy would be the best thing possible, but apparently it can become overbearing and awful.

What do you think a soul is? If you try to find a thing inside of you anywhere, that you can call your soul, you never will. You can only be it, never find it. Because what you are is essentially literally nothing at all, and it's kinda easy to show... And if you think a soul is "your" consciousness then it's topsy turvy, because you have never had consciousness, nothing and nobody has. It's the literal nothingness you are inside. You are in it. There is nothing in you.