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The blanket really is just photographed because it allowed me to stick 2 deodorant cans beneath it to make two humps and then one hump. It's only a prop I stuck in to make two obvious humps. I'm sure we are certainly not talking about the same thing at all. To be saying it's I-ness, personal etc, there's no chance. You likely just haven't encountered ego death because ANY I is still ego. You are probably sharing encounters with ego weakening, transforming, things like that. I-ness can cease to be as much and as easily as red can become blue. Your thought is that there is a permanent I entity between each moment and the entity is I or God. It's not accurate and the problem of it (why it isn't good enough for people to just enjoy the belief) is that it deforms simple processes of death into elaborate ideas of returning to the source or flicking through living as your relatives or animals (see: The Egg by Andy Weir). These complex ideas have to be woven desperately by the ego which doesn't get that its complete annihilation does not in fact erase reality into eternal dark. It is as possible for the "direct experience" of I to cease to exist as it is for red to cease to exist. Red ceases to exist blue appears. Nobody finds this odd. I cease to exist blue appears. Suddenly nobody can comprehend it. That it happens identically.

Depends. I don't mean you go to eternal pitch black à la random atheist thought, and someone else would still be seeing a beach. Or that you "cycle through lives" so you live again as your aunt or something. In the way you currently understand this to mean: You will still be seeing the beach. First person. It is exactly like you are seeing the beach first person. But you won't be there. You won't be there. AT. ALL. Not there as nothing, not there as the beach, not there as God, not there as "True Self@@!", not there as a human, not there as an alpaca. I mean you actually aren't present AT ALL. As you understand it now, you will be as not present as you were prior to being born. And if you are living under the assumption that you are one with the universe or something, or seeing it, or BEING it, it is logically completely impossible what happens. If you know there isn't a "Me as Consciousness!" then it isn't a logical problem anymore. The "I-ness" people think is an "I"... Well... What they are actually in touch with is not awareness or God or I AM. They are in touch with the literal sheer fact of existence itself. Existence exists. It's the raw existence that you are labelling awareness, because as we usually understand that thing or a normal random dude off the street understands it: Awareness is the nature of it. It's really incomprehensibly weird now. But awareness is what we understand the nature of it to be, because for example we think of qualia such as the redness of red to be, to be "seen by a consciousness". The qualia isn't seen by anybody. The red itself, exists. If ego death happens, you will understand it without needing to compare it to what it would be like within how you currently see the world. It's not even that secretive and locked through secret doors you must smoke lethal doses of drugs to unlock. You ceasing to exist is literally as simple and smooth as red becoming blue. Existence doesn't end with red, and doesn't end with "I"/Godself or whatever. Red goes away blue appears, easy to understand. Godself" or "me" goes, blue appears. That should be equally as easy to understand, as it happens just the same.

@amanen Who is the one "holding appearances as other"? There should not even be anyone present anymore if ego death is encountered. The person should temporarily be straight up dead. As dead as if they just took a shotgun shell to the skull. You know it's not just airy fairy language right? There wouldn't be anyone there. If there's anyone there it is for sure NOT ego death. There are lots of drugged out distortions of ego, many I have encountered. If there is ANY form of I-ness there, there is ego. Which happens first person as I drew on that illustration. That is exactly how it happens first person (btw, see how I'm forced to contradict myself because language sucks?). That is legit "enlightenment", and sadly for us the exact moment of enlightenment is also the precise moment there is nobody TO be enlightened. Because at the moment of enlightenment the person does not even exist anymore. Until the ego boots back up they are dead. There isn't even a person or I or anything like that present anymore to be "in duality". There isn't anyone there... Which you should see quickly is logically impossible, thanks to the fact our logic is built on the incorrect foundational belief drilled into us that there is no such thing as a sight without me to see it.

Nah, panpsychisn is the first thing that popped up at the time. Or Vedanta? But def one of the first things I come across seatching monist religion.

I've seen Hindu deities on heavy DMT trips. It's actually quite funny in hindsight, that I've been so high I'm literally talking to Krishna. LMFAO. That's like, hilarious. I'm not even Indian. And this was before I even knew about panpsychism let alone anything beyond that. Very strange. I feel maybe some of the religious ideas are just tripping then writing it down as some kind of revelation.

People's emotional mind can sometimes act in spite of the logical mind. Whenever I get pissed off w Google Assistant repeatedly misunderstanding me and it finally gets "turn off the fucking music!!!" I feel bad about yelling at it. Lol. You can also tell Alexa you love her and she sings you a song. She'll also tell you jokes and stuff. My instinctual mind doesn't care that I know it's a robot. It feels like 2001 A Space Oddyssey.

I find it goes: Terror -> Regret -> Shifted perspective -> Feel completely normal again with an altered perspective.

It might be semantical, it's hard to tell. But like, to even say something along the lines of red being aware of itself (which is not that inaccurate and I probably use that phrase myself btw), is as nonsensical of a phrase choice as saying "light lights itself up". It leaves behind a notion there for ex, of an un-lit light which becomes light when it lights itself up. When really of course light IS light. Without lighting itself up. Nobody says "lit light" they just say light. And as such red is red without having to red itself up. Images are superior, so the images should show better exactly what I mean, because it happens exactly identical to that. I'm really familiar with the various seeming ego deaths of psychedelic drugs, the actual death of ego wasn't really like all that. I've seen it referenced in toad ceremony reports sometimes. There's a few reports like it on Erowid. As soon as ideas of me start appearing in the fray, back too come the Rupert Spira type complex analogies and insanely complicated theories about why I'm seeing from my eyes and not yours etc. When the ideas of "Self" and "God" are removed, it is all very obvious again right away. It's such a different perspective that there isn't even a middle ground transition between the paradigms, just suddenly everything works. So I think the ideas themselves must be terribly misleading.

It's not really though lol... If I had my laptop open I'd draw what you experienced on drugs. You realize I've used shit like DMT 100 times or more. I know how it functions really well. You're experiencing ego alteration rather than ego death so long as you feel there is a me entity swirling around with all the psychedelic visions etc. Or sometimes on trips feel sucked backwards as though you are watching the psychedelic visions as a nothingness in the here position with a distant world. That's another form of ego alteration, both being nothingness and being everythingness. Lots of examples of ego alteration I can describe and exactly how it happens step by step. The sense of you becoming infinite is because sober ego sort of draws a fake boundary of self onto the edge of your skin. When you take the drugs, the boundary of where the self ends changes, so for example it no longer ends at the edge of your skin but expands outwards; you lose the ability to draw the self/other border. Because the perceived boundary which is ALWAYS present in sober perception is no longer there, you feel to exist as an I entity without any spatial dimension or spatial boundary. And like that the ego becomes surround-sound, similar to music from in-ear headphones. Which sounds like it is everywhere but whenever you try to find it in a specific spot it is never there. You can btw do this sober rn if you have in-ear headphones. I highly recommend that, and then see if you can replicate it with vision, and then all senses. Feeling to be a self in ANY sort of oneness with a world is ego alteration, there is still a sense of the world consisting of an appearance and the make-believe I entity. There is then a me-ness in redness, it is not quite purified. Ego death is exactly as it sounds, the ego has to actually not even be present. Not one with everything, not even nothing, it's just not present like how red isn't present rn if you surround yourself with just green. It's just as absent. If you have to spin elaborate tales about infinities and secret doors and voids etc, to explain something as simple as death, which is exactly the same as watching red become blue right now, then you can't have encountered ego death. If you get that, then there is no need for infinities or any other explanation, because it's literally as basic as red becoming blue (and you don't exactly need to discuss red "going back to infinity" or w.e. to understand how reality continues in its absence). Reality continues in absense of "I" exactly the same as it continues in absence of red or blue. Do you understand that? As I can't tell.

The feel-good ideas are bad because belief in God/I etc, causes a need to desperately invent ideas about how simple things like death works. Deathlessness is only obvious and makes total sense when you don't believe in True Selves and God etc... When you believe those myths you just go Rupert Spira discussing security guards watching CCTV screens etc, returning to infinity etc, because under that paradigm death is most similar to an atheist's vision of death. And that is a primary fear for people. Consider this: Nobody mourns when red stops appearing and blue takes its place. Nobody is scared of red ceasing to appear because they know something else will appear... People who believe in any form of self, do not comprehend that precisely as red turns to blue, I can cease to exist and blue can appear. The death of I does not take reality down with it. The I is another image like red is. And THAT is why you have to stop believing in fairytales. Because if you don't stop believing fairytales you won't be able to understand how that is possible. And will have to concoct elaborate shit like Rupert just to hold onto a belief.

I drew how over a blanket with a couple deodorant cants beneath it for some other thread, because words are a crap form of communication. This is how the world is seen by normal people when ego death has never been encountered. People who think they've encountered ego death but have in fact NOT, and instead only encountered the removal of the perceived borders of the ego, believe the character is superimposed onto the redness """at one""" with it. Legit ego death happens exactly like this: So what you previously thought was appearing to a person or TO a consciousness, is revealed to be without other. Without a you or an I or a God. I'm not talking BS about "le secret doors" as there's then nobody to go through one, or being purposefully obtuse like Neo-Advaita gurus who don't give a shit about communicating ideas, just about getting narcissistic validation for sounding deep... I'm showing you the actual, legit, real deal exactly as it happens. If you understand that image you understand what so called enlightenment is. Which is impossible to attain because you should see there's nobody to attain it. And nobody to know anything... Because if you understand how red is red without second, then you should see also that knowledge is knowledge.

IME it goes like this: Life-ruining terror -> altered perspective -> no longer terrifying. Last night it came up while dreaming, and I screamed and I screamed and I screamed out loud irl.

You've been indulging in 4chan /x/ type fantasy through the thread. None of this is serious truth or anything with any substance. It's magick stuff. Tarot, astrology, etcetera. Leo's trip by the way sounds like if Salvia involved animals rather than objects. Especially the glossalia (speaking in tongues). I spoke in tongues on Salvia often. It is curious that I recognize other people's "Salvia" trip words. Certain nonsense words have a Salvia vibe. And certain objects like tactile paving and hammers... I think the reason is the same as why many people try to smoke imaginary cigarettes on Datura (even non smokers). I think the pathways in the mind are activated in a certain spread which aligns with specific phenomena. DMT has jester clowns for example. None of this is of any "spiritual" substantiality. It's like fun and games. People wanting to "harness InFiNiTe CoNsCiOuSnEsS!!!" to manifest things and perform magick are in for major disappointment or delusion.

IV? I'm sure IV has to be the most powerful, biologically. Fastest uptake, zero filtration, kaboom... Or intraocular sounds like something you might do lol, right into the eye. I tried that with vodka once, didn't work but oh well.

It's the replies man. It's not serious people, they're 4chan paranormal board posters who want to do magic. For real. I'm not just talking BS. Half the posters just pester Leo to essentially help them perform miracles and magic tricks. It's not serious people on "the path" it's just pure /x/. Nothing whatsoever to do with any form of so-called enlightenment or any sort of historical nondual spiritual teaching.

There is genuinely nothing further to say except to refine wording and image diagrams. Anything else is superfluous. 4chan /x/ board shit about space aliens and manifestation, "can infinity ___", it's shit. Worthless. Alex Jones ramblings. There's legit nothing else to be communicated if the same idea/revelation can be triggered. That's it. People trying to "reach level 19482 of consciousness so I can reincarnate as a seagull" or w.e., belongs on /x/, discussing other shit like cryptids and demons too. It's all stories from the X Files or Are You Afraid of the Dark (remember that from Nickelodeon?).

Goes exactly like this... Check this slick metaphorical blanket, the blanket is some stand in representation for the fact of being. See "non-enlightened" subject and object perception: idea of the current happening consisting of two distinct shapes of existence, a separate consciousness bubble/entity (the "I" idea), and then the object of perception. This is what "enlightenment" is: See: no two little bumps with a consciousness bubble "I" subject viewing an object. AKA there is just appearing. That's it. No person seeing the happening, no spatial relation to the happenings. .. Legit that basic. Srs. That is actual ego death illustrated. That is also the same as literal death, as there is no self to die there is only the fact of existence which has, btw, always been like that. Obviously I'm shit with words so there. That's obvious right.

Leo told Connor Murphy he'd "lost it" for thinking he was a space alien, I'm failing to see any difference whatsoever between Connor Murphy claiming to be a space alien and Leo claiming to be a space alien. Anyone who had "awakened" would have nothing but the same exact shit to post over and over again. This ITT is all just like, 4chan /x/ tier people. Nothing at all to do with any sort of deep truths at all.

Mickey's jolly nature hides a deep genius.

This is the worst forum on the entirety of the internet right now. For real. QAnon tier psychosis spam, and then other threads discussing how actual literal child rapists are in fact great friends. I swear it wasn't full of deranged shit until the last few months.

I "confirmed in my direct experience" that the arcangel Gabriel appeared from the sky and told me my mission in life is to start a suicide cult... Connor Murphy "confirmed in his direct experience" that he is in fact a space alien. The judges at the Salem witch trials "confirmed in their direct experience" that everyone they sentenced to be burnt at the stake was a witch. 'Cause they got a funny feeling in their gut bro. My throat chakra is tense right now. I believe this means you are practicing witchcraft. Confirmed by direct experience bro. Off to the dunking pools with you! Thou ist a witch!

Sorry, I have a difficult time keeping quiet (also always needing the last word), it's a major flaw. When I see bullshit I feel tense "wtf is this SHIT" feelz until I say something. Please consider not copying Leo's catchphrases and brainwashing yourself with random books and videos. Man. I'm sorry I just can't take it. You haven't "confirmed in your direct experience". FUCK. Tony Robbins would prey on you and take every last penny you have. This is the type of target hustlers and fake gurus go after...... Fucking throat chakra... For real you will be taken advantage of by all the charlatans on the globe.......

This is like the type of shit they'd use to convict accused witches in the Salem Witch Trials. Fucking lol. New lows. Srs end this board.

Sorry, what the fuck... Dude just burn this board to the ground. Srs. I'd legit be embarassed to say I post here. Ffs. Man.