Adam101

Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm still of the opinion that really I need to have a psychedelic experience to know exactly how best to take my spiritual path. Psychedelics open the door and I assume, make you more motivated to meditate thereafter once you've had a taste of it. Someone mentioned trauma and I know I have underlying trauma from my past which I am aware of so perhaps psychedelics will help heal a lot of that and elevate my base line consciousness. Intellectually, I'm over my past but I know with trauma these things get lodged at the back of your subconscious. Another point is when I hear about people who have taken psychedelics, so many report it being the most profound experience of their lives and that just makes me all the more interested to give it a go. I will still be meditating, but if I'm honest, I have a lot of work and practising consistently for an hour everyday for instance is not something I'm motivated to do but with a psychedelic experience that might change. I know Leo talks a lot about putting in the work, which is fair enough, but then again, Leo's whole career revolves around personal development and spirituality so it's both his work and personal time that he engages with it but for the majority of people you've got the normal 9-5 job which is not that conducive to spiritual development! For me, I like evening walks in nature with a dash of meditation along the way which is where I find my consciousness elevates. And yes will be careful of the drug laws. The UK is so draconian when it comes to drugs - crazy to think that just picking a magic mushroom is a criminal offence that could land you in prison. Nuts

Though I do meditate every now and again, I do find it hard to motivate myself to keep a consist routine where I'm meditating for say 15-30mins per day when all I can think is well, in the end, I could just pop a psychedelic and achieve perhaps a year or two's worth of intensive meditation practise in one trip. The only catch is that the UK has exceptionally strict laws on drugs and about the only chance I have of acquiring such substances is waiting until the autumn for the mushroom season. So in the meantime, does anyone have any thoughts on this or feel the same way? I feel content and relaxed generally in myself so I'm not meditating for the purposes of that but rather to expand my consciousness, but of course, that kind of intention could take ages to achieve with meditation alone - and even then it might not happen. If a conscious shift does happen, it happens by chance as it did to me last year but I wasn't even meditating. I took an evening walk in the summer and I just experienced a profound sense of connection with where I was - I've tried to recreate the experience ever since to no avail. I'm sure even Leo said in his episode on psychedelics that you're pretty much wasting your time if you're just meditating. The real gains are with psychedelics. You've also got the problem of the more you try in the meditation, the less likely a conscious shifts will happen which is often the mode of mind I get into when meditating, but psychedelics, just throw you into that consciousness space, it's just up to you to make sense of it. I'm aware of the benefits of meditation in tandem with psychedelics, but if I had some to use then I would feel more motivated. I'm new to the forum so it's not a meaty question as such but more about introducing myself as well and letting you guys know where I'm at after listening to much of Leo's work