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@WalterM thanks for sharing your experience. yeah I know it's quite possible, the main message I've gotten is get a bachelor's if you want to live in Thailand for a long time, which I do, but I know Vietnam and Cambodia are a little different, but i've seen trends across my reddit posts that make me really consider getting a bachelors and actual teaching experience and understanding how to teach properly - but if I could get an position online, even making 700-1000$ a month I would have 0 concern going to college. Thanks for your advice, i'm extremely frugal and can stick to that no problem, I am basically going to just put my head into the book's of learning and get some experience, i want to be competent and not too full of shit , online-teaching sounds very attractive for me because the main reason's why are having access to wats (buddhist monasteries) i don't have these existential issues, i am merely trying to get financial independence so when I go out of retreat, i'm not stuck or dependent on my family. i have 0 interests with careers or ambitions to get a lot of money, i just want to sort myself out to practice as much as possible while having a place to go back to when i need a break from monasteries, i've ran into this problem staying at them for the last 7 months too often, so i'm here tryna sort it out

@WalterM I've looked into that, actually Thailand is exactly where I want to go for other reasons but it's actually a huge issue to do without a bachelor's degree. So I have this kind on my mind of okay, bite the bullet and spend 3 years get a degree, get experience, and get a decent paying job where I don't have to work so much or subject myself to unstable conditions, longer hours less wages and more hassle - no luxuries of the work permit and so on. I want to live in Asia. So, in Asia, they want you to have a bachelor's degree at least. I actually don't give a shit what I do so much, but in my country Ireland, 3 year is the minimum. Man 3 years though lol...

Thinking way back when I first started to doing psychedelics and experiencing a glimpse of higher levels of consciousness I stumbled into this community looking for guidance, so lost in confusion and emotional pain, although i'm not so active anymore I deeply honour all of your contribution to sharing your mind with me and the world, answering my questions and talking directly with me. For all those who are progressing through your consciousness. Thank you. No matter your development, you are exactly where you ought to be, much of the time we want to be somewhere else or in some higher degree of consciousness, but even that thought makes you realize how far you've come along in your development in this present, now reality. You are alive and still breathing, you are a part of the universal ever-changing reality singular reality and consciously choosing to develop towards that is absolutely astounding, perhaps it is a great blessing to have this human form, despite the immense suffering one can go through to end the dissatisfaction of conditioned reality, here we are. Don't forget that, what you do every moment truly matters and infact, it is the little things that we often overlook that contain the deepest and most insightful keys to becoming more conscious, even the Buddha said look to the simplicity of your breath and all you seek can be understood, anything, even taking a shit could enlighten you if you were attentive enough -- and those who realized that to the potential have deeply impacted all of our lives right now for our own freedom. Thank you for doing this for yourself and the benefit of all other beings, in our seperateness many of us are in circumstances unable to see past the illusion and suffer greatly for our ignorance and you reading this working on yourself consciously even for 10/20/30 minutes a day is benefiting all those around you. Thank you. Happy New Years and I wish 2023 brings you into watersliding into Bliss and freedom from suffering. Woooohoo

@Pharion nurture yourself more. you are safe now, in this moment, that reality no longer exists, it's not real

don't look for any particular special state that you feel free from conditions in and you will understand what letting go means far more than what you're describing your experience here not trying to be savvy, but it's so simple and ordinary

just let go of it, why is that a problem? it's just a habit you have of self-defeating so you don't have to face the feeling of being a failure and remain in the comfort of a limited belief system. you state you've learned through enough experience that egoic pain avoidance activies always backfire and never work in the long term, so there you go. just embrace it and let it arise and pass away, observe it and understand it's just an old habit coming up, be gentle and understanding about it, no need to trip to contemplate it. just understand an intention to do something with an unpredictable outcome > the habit to avoid potential unpleasant emotions appears > identification as 'mine/I/me' dictates whether or not the action of following through with said intention or falling back into old habit patterns. just keep being mindful and let it go, resistance is normal, it's okay, we love being miserable and complaining so we don't have to do difficult things

1. complete financial independence 2. move to asia??? 3. live near a good wat/monastery/retreat center 4. make more like-minded friends 5. experience a relationship 6. profit??????? 7. total liberation from all suffering

@Giulio Bevilacqua psychedelics have been great for me, life-changing and getting a glimpse at my spiritual potential, i've done lsd/dmt/mushrooms/2cb, ket, and a few other lesser known things like lsa. but ultimately seeing the limitations with them made me stop using them, i absolutely honour them with all my heart

The TLDR is how I define seeing 'spiritual' growth, or the reduction in my own experience of suffering from insight practice is essentially how it is I react to unpleasant and pleasant things that are arising and passing away, that's about it, but to the degree you intellectually understand that as to directly experience that is the discerning factor, that this moment, now, this passing, fleeting, moment to moment, ever-changing now, is the only reality there is, that anything we say that does not conform with now is constructed in the discerning mind and is a delusion for ourselves to ultimate reality, this is it baby. Please spend time reading/reflecting on what I say about Sila and Sangha if it isn't already on your mind. Enjoy your cakes. First of all I wanted to say thank you to everyone on this forum and of course @Leo Gura for creating a space for like-minded people to share this trip with, what i've come to realize is that you are all amazing honestly, one of the rather difficult things especially in the west is to just simply talk about spirituality and about the truth and we experience our own journey are and this forum was a great outlet for that and many other reasons, at one point I decided the best thing for me personally was to join a commune (Buddhist community) for a few months for several reasons, I nearly ended up ordaining but backed out during my last few weeks, and I ended up in 2 different ones for around 3 months at a time + travelling quite a bit alone and so on, I also ended up in a holistic center, went on a few 10 days retreats and eventually wanting to see my family for a while which funnily enough has been one of the most difficult things to confront, so here I am with some time to reflect and hopefully inspire you or some shit. Just to outline there's a lot terminology i'm using that is pali/sanskrit because that's what i'm familiar with. Anyways, I'm going to talk a little about that and try to emphasis certain things here to be of benefit to your journey, the thing about this forum is there is quite a lot of proliferation of the psychological content of the mind (and I know how satisfying that is, how fun it is but it generally it's just a hindrance) and the more I practiced an actual spiritual path and listened to Dhamma the more I realized that what I know I know and what I do not know I know I do not know, that the Dhamma is a kind of onion, there are layers and layers or 'awakenings upon awakenings' to the Truth, even though ultimately there is just Truth, there is also a knowing one is approaching things as they are, eg. there are several stages the Buddha outlined as one goes through from a stream enterer to an arahant. I have utterly transformed my experience of reality, you may even look back at my profile and see how much I was really suffering, I mean I was really fucked up emotionally and wasn't able to handle the patterns of my mind, I had attempted suicide, was a drug addict etc etc etc - most of you can relate to a degree, two things we westerners have in common; we are all suffering the material lust of society and being grasped into a spiritually starved society. Our salvation is only found within our own understanding. The four noble truths are not that difficult to get a grasp intellectually and naturally we like to make things super complex for ourselves and to search for 'the higher teaching's and so on' but what i've realized is that the highest teaching's are contained within the four noble truths of reality, that things aren't complicated - to understand a leaf on a tree is to comprehend every leaf in every forest in the existence - the Buddha infact taught just one thing; Dukkha Nirodha (end suffering), he also taught us not to proliferate too much on what reality is or other realms and so on and to focus on dukkha nirodha alone, I hope this is reflected on many times for you reading this, it is dukha nirodha which the Buddha taught, especially for myself who has tripped out 100+ times - I love to really experience the incomprehensible reality we are within and to expound on the crazy possibilities and thought-constructs we can create, figures like T.Mckena are huge inspiritation to me but in my own experience all I seem to see in the grand scheme of things, the long haul, the cream of the crop is ending your own suffering, to eliminate all dissatisfaction from your life and to attain to Nirvana/enlightenment, that we are all capable of penetrating these insights into reality and freeing ourselves, becoming truly happy and no longer dependant on the senses or objects of the mind - despite our unworthy self-concept of ourselves... The most and I mean the most important thing is to absolutely accept yourself as you are moment to moment, put a stop to becoming something better/more/acceptable - that all you are is a product of conditioning and most of the time getting established in sati is understanding that all of the shit arising in your mind, just is and us westerners have quite a mind to tango with. Things just are, they are just unfolding at the pace they are unfolding, does that make sense? Just let go of thinking. Like really, just let go and be here, that is it, this is it lol. There really is no doer here, that is the core issue to actually being able to let go. There is this constant dance between doing and letting go, that one moment we are in some unwholesome object in the mind and suddenly we remembered. This is what we understand as Mindfulness, but also it is something to practice and there's really never not a time not to do it. The greatest insight i've had is understanding Sila - and that includes getting involved and finding the Sangha. (your spiritual companions/family upon the journey), this is absolutely fucking key. This is where your progress will ramp exponentially as opposed to being by yourself. Here is a picture to represent just how important it is to have a foundation of sila, even if you were to incessantly meditate endlessly, you will get fucked by your Sila. Notice your mind ruminates and causes suffering because it is rooted in 3 things, greed, hatred or delusion - the actions we've taken from our ignorance to this causes this noise in our heads that blocks our ability to enter and abide in jhana in our day to day lives and enter into seclusion. What i've come to understand about meditation is, it's not something you do or switch on and off, until it becomes your every breath you still haven't really gotten what it is. It's not that you have to be aware 24/7, because that's a misunderstanding of Sati, but it's through Right effort that we can literally meditate every moment of our life, through gladenning the mind and relaxing into the jhana we can rewire the negative self judgmental and projective critic, take this to heart and learn what gladenning the mind means. Anyways, I spent 3 months in a forest thai monastery and it completey transformed every perspective and cut deeply into my own delusional perception of reality, see personality development is incredibly incredibly important, and I don't mean that in any egoic sense whatsoever but rather the ability to individuate into your own unique character and get out of the shell of conditioning - conditionings keeps us very competitive, lieng to each other, ourselves, manipulating people around us, endlessly judging and projecting onto each other, we are more or less trapped in an echo-chamber that reinforces these habits and we all do actually possess a ton of potential - and when you go to a good quality wat/monastery that has the noble Dhamma, you get to see this screamed in your face, you will not infact be able to see this from contemplating it nor reading this writing, you have to go and see people who have been practicing Sila for decades to see how absolutely stable, consistent, selfless and unconditionally giving they are to those around them, they influence and touch your heart in ways that has to be seen for yourself - they mirror to your own spiritual potential and you will delight in it, they also mirror to you have defiled you are, your mind is deluded as fuck and you are sucked in that lense of the suffering of selfish actions, it conditions you for you, you just ride the wave. Anyways besides I tried quite a few things, I went out to cities alone and tried pickup, I flew back to my family after 5 years, I talked to several teachers online, I went through 8 months of therapy and joined 4 different therapy groups, breathwork, psychedelics, journaling, inner child, shadow work, charity work, whatever. Like, whatever lol, the whole shibang. I was so intense this year man, I really wanted to transform because I knew my potential and what I came to conclude is what I just wrote about, that many of us are missing this Sangha and Sila practice, this is where we are rooted in ignorance for most people, is found within our Shadow, how our unconscious projects, none of us will meditate that out of us, do you understand? - it has to be confronted and let go of, you let go by not reacting and nurturing yourself, practiced every single moment you see these patterns in you, you have to be willing to go through really difficult emotions and give up your habits of avoiding it and try your best to do the right thing, it's all contained within the 4 noble truths and the 4rth noble truth is the 8th fold noble path the Buddha laid out to end suffering. Anyways, these are just my fucking insights, what I found to be the most valuable and basically to adopt some Jesus into your life - generosity, good will, develop your loving kindness, develop your compassion, your empathic joy and your equanimity to pleasant and unpleasant states my friends, please consider how important it is for you to get into the Sangha, do whatever it takes to find those equal or higher to you and make them your company, reach out, put that effort in, be vulnerable to change, it is so important, sympathetic vibrations can carry you miles along the river alone, your environment is conditioning you whether you like it or not, you should pay extreme attention to making it as good as you can for yourself, because you love yourself. Merry Christmas

@Schizophonia i don't see anything wrong with you other than you're still too identified with these conditions in the mind, just let go stop judging them. spend more time with yourself in meditation, invest in the time to make a few good friends and get a bit more grounded outside your head. let go and enjoy being here in reality, you are not a victim to any of your patterns, you are choosing to prolong them or let them die each moment through awareness learn anapanasati

i'm going to shoot you with some quick bullet points. kapow you did not emotionally develop from how your parents raised you but now you are being given the opportunity to do so if you take the time to reflect and stop getting identified with everything thinking you need to fix anything, because you don't, you already have what your mind is seeking, you don't need anyone or anything at all stop grasping at the outside world in your states of loneliness if you want to actually change. because if you go on doing that you will be trapped in your insecurities, trapped in your need to secure it and go on conditioning your own co-dependent tendencies as you say you are out of touch with your masculinity because you have to depend on others to give you what you already have, as i said if you practice mindfulness correctly, you will be able to be observant of how your mind tends to cling onto certain objects to feel safe, but you already 'are' safe, you have to not only be mindfully aware but recognize, you are actually indeed safe right now, and believe that - this is called gladenning the mind in the practice of anapanasati (mindfulness of breathing). watch this - this is actually reconditioning ourselves out of these bad habits these are all habits, understand that, there is no permanent you trapped in this, emotionally it feels like that right now, and you are creating stories in your head about how you feel to be 'you', to be personal, but in reality that's not true and a good meditation practice will make you for yourself realize this and let go your jealously is just your own insecurities being reflected back to you, that you need to fix them by partaking in 'securing' them, but once you understand why you are feeling insecure, you just let go and you won't have to try or stop not caring, you just will not care you need to reflect on how your parent's raised you up, how you were a victim to the way they raised you up, and how you are no longer a victim and capable of developing a ground of being rooted in aloneness and not a scattered fragmented child rooted in his insecurities there's a difference between emotional needs and what you describe here, understand that - it's true you need food to survive right, but you don't need fish and chips to survive, that's what is going on here, you have a lot of things going on in your inner child that are not grounded in your reality but come from your childhood nurture yourself, forgive yourself, love yourself, you don't need other people to do that. let go of believing you need mom and dad to do that, because you can learn to do that yourself now.

@Breakingthewall Liberation dependant on any worldy thing is another prison

@spiritual memes You can apply this story to yourself and all beings whom you come to argument with The Story of the Donkey and Tiger The donkey told the tiger: ′′The grass is blue". The tiger replied: ′′No, the grass is green". The discussion became heated up, and the two decided to submit the issue to arbitration, and to do so they approached the lion, King of the Jungle. Before reaching the clearing in the forest where the lion was sitting on his throne, the donkey started screaming: ′′Your Highness, is it true that grass is blue?". The lion replied: "True, the grass is blue". The donkey rushed forward and continued: ′′The tiger disagrees with me and contradicts me and annoys me please punish him". The king then declared: ′′The tiger will be punished with 5 years of silence". The donkey jumped for joy and went on his way, content and repeating: ′′The grass is blue"... The tiger accepted his punishment, but he asked the lion: ′′Your Majesty, why have you punished me, after all, the grass is green?" The lion replied: ′′In fact, the grass is green". The tiger asked: ′′So why do you punish me?" The lion replied: ′′That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green. The punishment is because it is not possible for a brave, intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with a donkey, and on top of that to come and bother me with that question". The worst waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who doesn't care about truth or reality, but only the victory of their beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on discussions that make no sense... There are people who for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand, and others who are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want is to be right even if they aren’t. When ignorance screams, intelligence shuts up. Your peace and tranquility are worth more. Author unknown

@effortlesslumen The timer is great. It's a powerful tool to both not developing getting attached to tranquil states that come into absorption and to diligently sit when we are in difficult terrain and developing a trust that we will commit to the timer and not lie with ourselves. Great stuff, as I linked to that teacher Dhammarato, if ever comes the time you want to talk to a good teacher he talks to anyone on skype freely and runs an online Sangha community that discusses the Dhamma and practice

@ShardMare Hi there, good work to see you're taking care of yourself and working through things we all can experience ruts and depression but we can also be wise to avoid unneccessary suffering. I just want to point out a few things that might be helpful for you, not in the sense of pills or methods or meditation or psychedelics or therapy but a question for you to investigate and see if this is true yourself; Firstly the most important thing is when you said "I should have" a better mood. This is fundamentally how humans suffer so much, by craving what is not in the present reality. And so we are introduced to what is known as suffering. (dukha/dissatisfaction). We think things should be different than they really are, we do all the things we think will make us happy but it just doesn't, so despair eventually arises when we just don't get what we want (back to craving) Craving is the source of suffering, it is the first noble truth the Buddha expounded upon, there is suffering (dukha) but there is also a path to end suffering. (dukha nirodha) So I'm just going to drop a link and if it something you are interested in exploring and testing, go ahead and see does it work, does practicing any of this make you happier or not?, in essence we are refraining from harming ourselves and others, doing good deeds and practicing meditation so we can experience this freedom from being dissatisfied with the way things are, since at some point sooner rather than later, I hope wisdom enters you to see what you are doing that is causing you this pain. Association with the disliked is dukha Seperation from the liked is dukha Not getting what one wants is dukha So where does true happiness begin?

@effortlesslumen So when we say meditation, most people aren't really meditating, they are just looking at there own hindrances for an hour straight unable to relax out of it intentionally and watching a tv show, they are in a basic alert state but it is not meditation and neither having a felt tone of established in mindfulness, it is not that you have to try harder but understand what right effort is. Right effort is just the amount of effort we need to maintain sati and to wake up as soon as possible when we are absorbed into unwholesome objects of the mind and introduce wholesome objects - so really it is absolutely an amazing idea and as you say, rewire you brain, to actively gladden ourselves (a teacher who will teach anyone anapanasati for free via skype) into a wholesome state for 5-10 minutes several times a day so when we go to sit for 30 minutes or an hour we can really enjoy it I myself sit twice 50 minutes a day, and unless I recognize the dukha as dukha and sit 5-10 minutes a few times throughout the day to throw that garbage out of the mind, that later evening sit is entirely different and i find it incredibly hard to stay fixated on wholesome objects. This is how the Buddha taught anapanasati/mindfulness of breathing

@Razard86 Seeing things as they really are is wisdom. Being wise enough to know you don't see things as they are is to an extent wisdom but to comprehend dependent origination to the cessation of all suffering and realization of the four noble truths as they really is another kind i'd say, it's just knowing how reality works in your direct experience of it. It can not be borrowed or be made an opinion/view out of.

From my own experience I would suggest making sure you are in a safe environment if your intention is to explore these things Manny and to understand the conditioning of the mind is not going to be erased with a few psychedelic trips, it may take years of integration work to feel like you aren't a victim to what happened to you. But, they may help you see you are a winner and the choices you're making moment to moment either prolongs or dissolves the patterns of trauma. So take joy knowing every moment is a moment to free yourself!

@Linda22 'we can wake up, but it's not enough to get out of bed' - an essential step in the way the Buddha taught anapanasati is called 'gladenning the mind' (or i like to see, conscious re-conditioning) where, when we are just aware, we can see many unwholesome states within us (our conditioned minds) and just sit and see it all, we are infact not really in a state of meditation at all and have not applied right effort, we are basically never reaping any fruits of our practice we just keep watching rotten yields come in over and over and over in the mind, it's quite dissatisfying to practice that kind of meditation someone who wants to feel better right effort is introducing wholesome thoughts and relaxing bodily sensations that arise from unwholesomeness like anxiety. a certain thing in the world makes us anxious and our mind begins to reproduce the same old patterns and stories of 'I am in danger, there are threats outside', creating a state of anxiety within us that is very unpleasant, it's not enough to just bare witness but to actively gladden, relax our minds, we can literally control the way we feel through thoughts of 'i am safe, i am secure' over and over and over, we recondition ourselves, bringing ourself out of hindrance and into a deep relaxation or jhana. a nice little CBT trick is instead 'Oh god I have to go for a walk with the dog' creates a state of resistance, but the 'I could' instead of 'I have to' literally makes us feel so much better about the situation. The Buddha basically taught CBT 2500 years ago, and it's a moment to moment practice of that rewires years and years of the patterns of negativity within us our parents/society taught us

@DocWatts Letting go; the pathway of surrender is fairly solid.

There is absolutely nothing to do, there is absolutely nowhere to go, until that really penetrates you it's all just being lost in desire

I just wanted to write about my experience visiting a monastery. I ended up spending 3 months recently at a forest thai wat in the tradition of Ajahn Chah. It has radically changed things for me, I am going to put up a few pointers as to how this may be beneficial for you. I want mainly emphasis and try to express how we in the west have been conditioned in a certain way that doesn't exist not even mildly to the extent it does in Thailand, as many of you who do psychedelics know your potential to be selfless and loving and a real friend towards others and the polarity to that in your regular day to day state of dealing with your repressed nuerotic delusions and projections onto 'others', you can see childhood traumas come up again, see parts of people you thought you forgot about 20 years ago come back in some way or another, your karma is going to be popping off my friends - going to a monastery will drastically develop your awareness around your 'social selves' or that part of you that comes online around others, that tenses up and walls of and rejects, that projects pushes away, judges and scans for threats and so on. The whole of the unconscious is here right now, it just needs a certain mirror for you to see it, communities are a room full of mirrors. Maybe you will see that you do infact still hate your ex gf? That this part of you, the day to day one that walks around in a social environment is a huge hindrance to maintaining a wholesome state and not falling over and over and over into the 5 hindrances. We often talk about causes and conditions and how they arise parts of the mind, and when you live in a community tailored for spiritual development - for a little bit it can be like high-school all over again or being at your parents home, it's such a radical dynamic that to just experience it is absolutely mindblowing. The most important insight is that of understanding just how fundamental it is to develop Sila (morality/ethics) and how it affects your actual meditation. It is really difficult to explain this until you see yourself being in an actual community for a little while. Dana - the sharing experience; being in the west, we don't really experience sharing, we are ruthlessly climbing on a hill of bodies trying to make a living and don't have a clue what Dana is. It's so weird, when you are shown unconditional hospitiality and care, you actually want to give back and that feeling is incredibly important to experience - the development of generosity and unconditional giving is essential imo. Meeting those who have been practicing for 30/40 years and senior monks such as Ajahn Amaro can be a transformative experience in itself, these people can have such a profound impact just by being around them and speaking about your life/practice - they can point out things you are completely ignorant to, point you towards things you cannot see and make you feel what it feels like to be in the presence of actual unconditional love. The Sangha (or spiritual friends) are fundamental to everyone's path and we ought to put effort into making and maintaining companionship so we don't fall into delusion or isolation and develop very important parts of ourselves that shouldn't be left behind. Patience - is a really a powerful virtue to develop, enjoying the way things are despite how they are, being here with the way things are... most monasteries will have a degree of sensual restriction such as no tv/internet/music/noble silence/meal times and so on and you might be very suprised to waking up to how many habits you have regarding this. It will develop your ability to be here with reality and help you see how much control you actually have over your own actions. As Daniel Ingram said I believe, that it is more beneficial for someone to instead of meditate 1 hour a day for a year meditate for 1 hour for 6 months a year and do one 7 day retreat, retreats and environments with other practitioners can create a group energy and inspiration to push through phases of the vulnerability to sloth and torpor we find in our regular homes and touch into territory that requires a certain amount of striving. I see now how important it is to find a place we can visit often, a place where we can find like-minded people and practice diligently together and discuss our path to truth that isn't online - see online and in-person are just two different environments and are incomparable, It's so crucial and the main thing I hope you take away from this post. So my last word here is to do yourself a big favour and find that place of yours that you can take refuge in and strive in your practice. may you be free from suffering

Knowing everything is fading away, what is really important right to your heart right now? Do you want to go on retreat, volunteer, change your career? Do that and enjoy doing it, enjoy spending time with everyone around you dieng, because that's the only reality to where we are going; into the soil, so smile or cry going in - that's the only choice you have really

@BipolarGrowth Yes, so I mainly know about this tradition https://forestsangha.org/community/monasteries now, each monastery is slightly different, if you are for example to come to the UK to Chithurst or Amavarati, you could stay for 3 months at one time if you wanted by extending month by month, but the slightly smaller ones like Sunyata in Ireland, you might get a week max at your first stay but you can extend that more and more. And they have the same system in their US wats. https://forestsangha.org/community/monasteries/abhayagiri https://forestsangha.org/community/monasteries/temple-forest-monastery I just emailed the guest monk and talked about staying and how I want to practice and know the Dhamma. You could easily go from wat to wat in the UK for months on end just practicing, a few people i've met do that. One nun I met done it for 9 years till she ordained

Unless psychedelics somehow aid you into bringing you to the point you have to experience your own humility of views and opinions of the 'experiences' of Truth, you have a lot to work on to pull yourself out of ignorance of what Truth is. “The tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao." - Tao Te Ching So let's not get lost in the great egotistical elation and addiction into talking about the Truth and work on being Truth, here and now, this