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You mean if everyone had a one time enlightenment-experience or if everyone turned Turquoise? Cause you mention "enlightened people", and I guess the closest thing to that would be Turquoise people.

[insert random abstract quote about reality here]

Well, I'll leave you to it then.

Wouldn't a life partner naturally be the best accountability partner? .. maybe you need a better life partner, lol.

Just take a broader view. Sure, there are millions of people smarter and better than you in every way. But there are also millions far dumber than you. No matter how smart or dumb you are, it's meaningless. The more you zoom out the more meaningless it gets.

Don't you have a BF or something? Always talking about relationships and stuff..

No one with adhd is ever properly assessed. It's just a collection of symptoms, nothing else. So even if adhd is a "real", specific disorder, no one's ever assessed/diagnosed for it. You're only assessed for the symptoms which could match a real disorder. Whether it's a subjective problem is a whole other debate. Almost anything can be a "problem". If meds help, do whatever you want man, but I'd say the same for neurotypicals using any drugs for any reason whatsoever.

Just wondering if anyone's been successful in permanently changing their sexual preferences. I know it's possible one way or another, but have never heard of it being done. Surely, when you expand your awareness wide enough, it should be possible to do something as simple as that? Though, I'm worried it might take a Coral level of power, if not more. I'm currently at gay level 0. How can I turn it up?

How does one "spend beautiful moments" with someone? The only way I interact with people is through conversation, and women rarely have real hobbies or interest in intellectual topics. Walking/hiking/etc. isn't really an activity, it's just talking, and has the same problem. And I'm kind of seriously ill, and can't "go out", even without lockdowns.

Nope. Don't expect I will in this lifetime. Probably would be nice, but unlikely to ever happen. Can't do that kinda stuff online.

Kinda. Just not really worth the effort.

There's some truth to this, but you shouldn't be a slave to your circumstances. I'm sure you have, but that's just proving my point. Men have better conversations; women are.. well.. at least you can have sex with them.. "fun".

Try what? Being gay? As I said, I'm 0% gay. I'm seriously put off by any sort of masculinity. Technically, I'm a "gynesexual", which is basically straight. Bisexual would mean attraction to both masculinity and femininity.

I'd like to think it's not women-specific, but I can only give them the benefit of the doubt for so long. Women are simply MANY times more likely to make for poor conversation partners. Women don't need to be smart, funny, or have hobbies for men to be interested in them. Men will be attracted to them no matter what. So, naturally, men are statistically far more likely to be fun to talk to. I really wish I was wrong, but this is just the way things are.

I thought this would be obvious. There's not a single advantage to being straight, yet every advantage to being gay. Fuck that "proving you're assertive and brave, yet kind and gentle, but dominant and confident, yet sensitive and emotional" shit. Not worth it. I ain't jumping through anyone's hoops, not for any reason. Oh and.. fuck THIS shit. @Leo Gura

I have zero interest in anything like that. I'm 100% straight. That's the problem. Women just can't debate/reason (sorry if that's offensive). It would be convenient AF if I wasn't attracted to women.

You keep dodging. He makes a good point. There's a difference between assigning probabilities to potential truths, and forming firm, judgemental beliefs about reality/people based on emotion.

omg.. Preety's posts are * literally * making me consider turning gay. I might just compromise and find a trap or something. I'm hoping that the power of Turquoise will expand my awareness to the point of allowing me to change my sexual preferences. In theory, should be possible. Shit, might have to start a thread on this now.

As SD is really just mapping out levels of awareness, I don't see a problem with calling someone like Buddha 'Turquoise' (though I don't really know much the Buddha). We say that Orange is all about money and success but, of course, we know this is just a manifestation of Orange's level of awareness. Orange, itself, has nothing to do with money.

I actually strongly disagree with this. "we're all the stages at the same time!" is a common idea I see on the forum. It turns SD into some collection of traits rather than a coherent system, stripping it of any value. You don't have to "become Blue" to have structure in your life. Each stage can have structure. The only reason Blue is known for structure is because it's the first stage to really discover it. Orange has the structure of Blue, it just doesn't feel the need to focus on it. Being Orange while having aspects commonly associated with Blue doesn't make you Orange AND Blue, you're still just Orange. No one ever said it was. Turquoise is very different to Green. I only quoted that as it sounded specifically Green, not any other stage. Even if other stages can have the same ideas, the wording/underlying-motivations can be unmistakably Green. Yellow, yes. Turquoise? Not so much. You have to remember that Turquoise sees everything as already being 100% perfect. They're not. Turquoise is rarely so proactive. Never heard of Sadhguru doing something like this, but if he is, he won't be taking it seriously like a Green would.

lmao.. that's an interesting thing to say, with a bunch of funny implications, but I won't argue. There's nothing particularly amazing about being tier 2. The only difference between me and tier 1s is time. They'll come to the same point when they're ready.

Yeah, it's easy to get trapped. But intellectual obsession is still an important phase to go through. On a broader scale, that's what Yellow is. Yellow is about finding the actual truth; and then Turquoise is about throwing it all away. It's only bad if you get "stuck" on a model and are no longer thinking for yourself.

lol, reminds me of this "stage Coral" guy I recently chatted with here who looked down on anyone below stage Coral. That said, models are, typically, a stage Yellow thing. They're a tool for gaining knowledge and understanding, and should be encouraged. Many models, such as the IQ test, or astrology (which is kind of treated like a model), can do more harm than good. But models like MBTI/Socionics/SD/the-nameless-9-stages-of-human-development-model, are worth studying for decades as they can go very deep.

Sure it's not important, nothing is. But it sure is interesting, and very worthwhile to learn. And yeah, I was mostly referring to his vibe. Though, the kind of people that stick around in large numbers are Greens. Anyone with a massive post count is most likely to be Green or Yellow, but Yellow is many times rarer than Green, so most that you'll see will be Green. And I could write a bunch about why, but I'm trying to type less these days.

? I think what you're both trying to say is.. You're not Se users. lol, should've been obvious, considering it's your 7th function. The easiest one to ignore. But I wouldn't necessarily consider that immaturity, though maybe you are, idk.