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I agree. I have this exact debate quite often around here. That's a bit optimistic, but might be a few more by then. The forum is still very Orange and Green atm.

Someone's gotta ask the hard questions, don't care if that makes me look like an "Orange". There's literally no information on Turquoise, and it is the goal of all of humanity, so of course I'm gonna be interested in figuring it out.

How is that judgement? It's just an observation. You sure you're not just projecting? Most people I know are Blue. Even I was a Blue once ..for a period in my childhood. Got nothing against Blues ..except the music genre.

o..m..g.. that's quite a few examples you've got there. Could, yes, but Blues rarely start threads about reform or making big changes of any kind. Blue posts tend to be either: Boring, not really saying much, and kinda pointless. Just complaining about Muslims or whatever random thing they don't like (e.g. "Not ANOTHER lockdown!! I ain't wearing no mask!"). Random Blue question, and not replying back after someone answers it.

When it comes to psychedelics, ime, you see insights through a personal language of your memories/thoughts/experiences. You think in images, "felt" structures, and feelings. Without psychedelics, awakening has no appearance of any kind, ime.

Who's judging who? Why "little" practical benefit? People would say the same about MBTI, and every other model that's ever been made.

Whether criticism is from above or below is mostly irrelevant. Tier 1 stages will all have their own problems, visible to other stages above and below. The lower stages are all out of balance. For Green to get to Yellow, it has to to return to individualisticness, the same side that Orange is in. So hearing perspectives from Orange can help.

..in other words "not bruising fragile egos". Do you expect the forum to strengthen your ego? Cause that's not the goal of the forum. Green is a relatively advanced stage, it doesn't need to be treated like a baby. No Green would want to be given special treatment.

lmao wat. Ok, I had assumed your understanding of the model was a bit better than this, considering your post count. Yeah, his policing is a real issue, but Leo is tier 2. Yellow or Turquoise, depending on how you look at it.

You're advocating for complacency and stagnation for the sake of avoiding bruised egos.

You sure you're not a mod? Can't really pick on a random mod to make my point, so it's hard to explain. Whenever Blues contribute, their posts tend to be in accordance with the [Green] theme of the forum. Blues are very conformist, and Blues are very common in the world, so any Blues that find themselves here often take on a Green color. Blues are often chosen to be mods. So whenever a mod posts something, it's gonna look Green on the surface, but when you dig deeper you find Blue.

Whether you realize it or not, by saying "I'd prefer to see more Green threads" you're thinking of it more "highly". You don't have to be egoistic about hierarchies, but you can't pretend they don't exist. This is a big challenge for Greens to understand. Would love to see that. Never seen anything but praise for Green on the forum.

You're saying it's Orange? Yeah, it is. I think it's about as Orange as it is Green, but even the Oranges here focus on Green topics, for the most part. The "theme" of the forum is "Green". How so? Your mood shouldn't be dependent on the contents of the forum. ..perhaps you think too highly of Green? Greens aren't exactly tier 2s.. lol.

Just think: Mod

woah.. you replied in literally like 20 seconds.. again : ) But this forum has a strong Green bias. If it were any more Green it would be a Green-only forum. Spiritual topics attract Green more than any other stage, so Greens are attracted to this place. Orange is similarly common here, but maybe not quite as much as Green. That said, Blues with an interest in these topics can sometimes appear Green on the surface. They just repeat Green rhetoric and contribute to the Greenness.

W-What?!? This is by FAR the most pro-Green forum I've been on.

Hmm? Survival is a focus for tier 1.

Hard to say, as, becoming Turquoise normally entails a long process of complex thoughts, experiences, emotions, etc. If you skipped that, it's unclear how people would process it. And if you got "too" enlightened, reality would melt away. So you have to decide on an arbitrary point before that. If everyone got to Turquoise there shouldn't really be any downsides. People would have gone through all the other stages and would recognise the importance of keeping their jobs and continuing as normal, they'd just feel high all the time and be bursting with happiness 24/7. World peace would begin immediately, and within a very short amount of time all the world's problems would be solved forever. Now, if, instead, everyone turned Green, there'd likely be chaos for some some time as everyone quits their jobs and all the world's markets crash.

I meant you're fast with replying. I think you replied in under a minute on the previous post. I'm used to waiting days.

Nope, I don't think so. But, like, simulation theory was "crazy" a few years ago, now every youtuber is talking about it. And I'm like "Hey! I was talking about this shit before it was even cool! L-Like a decade ago! And you guys were all like "that's stupid!""

I swear you're like the fastest person on this forum.. btw, if you can't "identify" what masculinity "feels" like, hormones might be the easiest option. Once you know the feel, it's easy to recall to mind. I mean, if I wanted to, I could suddenly turn 100% feminine, but it's scary af so I never do. Pretty sure those are just American values of something..

Hmm, interesting. Sounds like you need to work on Orange, wouldn't you say? Perhaps even some Red. Orange feels kinda masculine, so maybe an approachable way of targeting masculinity. Just need to tap into selfishness a bit.

This just keeps happening. I hold some "controversial" view that Greens hate me for, then years later I hear some celebrity/authority declares my old "controversial" view as truth. And suddenly it's no longer controversial and even goes mainstream.

Do you actually want to be more masculine? If you do, it should come naturally. Anyway, if you have a masculine side, use it. The more time you spend in it the stronger it'll become. Also, have you considered hormone therapy?

Good to see Sadhguru learning from my teachings.