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Well yeah, consciousness is nothingness, the only thing with infinite potential. But that's unrelated.

What no one will tell you: Alcohol, drugs, video games, gym, TRT. All the bad things. You don't have to do any of these for long. Just enough to see a different version of yourself. E.g. you see yourself being assertive and not giving a fuck while drunk, and it will be much easier to achieve that confident state while sober. Hate me all you want, but it works.

Indeed.

I'm living as a human right now and nothing else because that's the only way to have this human experience. Now, if infinity can never be approached, how will I experience every possible human experience? To experience infinity, I'd have to at some point experience e.g. my exact same life, but with blond hair, with green hair, etc. and if I'm going through life in the way I am now, as a limited human, and not experiencing everything at once, then how will I ever circle back and have the same experience but slightly modified? Infinity isn't a circle, I will never return to where I am now as I'd have to first go through an infinite number of other experiences.

I think everyone agrees infinity has no beginning or end. Am I though? On some level maybe, but not within my limited awareness as a human.

We're obsessed with it because it's not talked about and the sudden realization that other people are just products of your mind hits hard. What makes it different from other big realizations is that it's obvious once it clicks, and can't be argued against as it's a fact. You can only experience what your mind offers you, and absolutely nothing else.

But we don't experience this infinity all at once. Only one life at a time. Ok that makes sense, but only in a broad/theoretical sense. I will need to think about this. We're rarely in a "god state". 99% of the time we're living with only human-level awareness, and surely that's significant. The bad experiences are only appreciated after death, so the quality of the life during its course should be important.

Before you say anything, I'm not Coral.. But I believe I have found what may be the world's first example of stage Coral. Someone far beyond Sadhguru & Ken Wilbur, with insights beyond anything Leo has uploaded. After a few months of listening to them I've decided they're most likely legit. They may even be beyond Coral, but the model's already broken at Coral, lol. What would you expect to see in someone who's definitively beyond Turquoise? Serious replies only please. If there's enough interest, I may gather some resources on this person.

I still need more opinions Infinity means we will never experience everything, so why not cherry pick the best experiences? If the goal is to discover ourselves, then surely it would make more sense to have a larger sample size than a smaller one. While what's "best" might only exist subjectively from a human perspective, we're the ones who give all meaning to everything. So a "best" determination should be perfectly valid. Any experience you have will have an experiencer with preferences, so I don't get the "you must be without bias" logic. Every role God plays is biased. Not sure if @Leo Gura ever properly addressed this, correct me if I'm wrong.

What would satisfy you? What's the most exciting thing that could happen?

Your human self has narrow awareness which is limited in what it can do. If you were able to expand your awareness enough, you'd be able to do literally anything, but at that point your human self would be overwhelmed and fully assimilated into your expanded self. Imagine if you could merge your brain with an ant's. The ant would completely lose itself within the much bigger you. How much say would the ant's portion have in your cognition? Zero. The ant basically no longer exists. This is what would happen if you became powerful enough to do anything. Your human self couldn't negotiate with your infinite self.

Greater awareness = greater awareness of the good and bad. And the less mature someone is, the more they'll focus on the bad as they're scared and want to feel in control of the bad/depressing things they've just discovered. There's actually a term for depressed, newly "spiritual" people. We call them "stage Green". They're aware enough to see the bad things in the world, but not quite aware enough to understand them or see the full picture.

dude.. paragraph!! I'll give you an F for readability. B+ for effort. But I agree with some of your thoughts. Too many here seem to think that past experiences are the only valid basis off which it's possible to come up with a theoretical framework of consciousness progression. As you mentioned, we'd need AI, or at least super advanced machine learning, to properly figure it all out, but I don't think it's necessary just to make initial progress on Coral theory, and beyond, imo. All answers are within, after all.

Just do nothing, wait, and it will get better for no reason. That's how life works. Progress just happens without you consciously doing anything. All you have to do is nothing.

God wants to know itself. By trying to explore every possibility, it would explore basically none. You could spend trillions of trillions of years exploring a single atom. Pointless. Wouldn't teach you anything "meaningful". Yellow/Turquoise centre. Done psychedelics dozens of time. Have meditated on and off for a decade. (Just noticed a typo in the title. I meant entirety, not entirely)

In 10 000 years, will Turquoise still be the absolute limit? While, yes, the model breaks when you go beyond Turquoise, there will still undoubtably be stages of progression that exist after Turquoise.

I don't know what happened, but.. keep it up @Leo Gura, your content is important. Maybe, like, unlist controversial videos and post links here or something if it helps??‍♂️

Maybe it is obvious, but so is love. Yet, merely "understanding" love intellectually means little. Realising you're god is not gonna result in an indifferent reaction. No matter how high your IQ, actually realising you're god will shock you and make you cry.

Those fantasies are real though?

I assume you turned "anti-reincarnation" because of Leo's ideas? Be careful not to fall too deep into his ideology. He's mostly right about things, but he has his biases and blind spots. A "series of lives" is an experience in itself. It adds another dimension to existence. Each life on its own is an experience, but when you go from life to life, retaining/building some quality, that gives a whole additional layer of complexity to each life you have. But if you have doubts.. remember we live in infinity.. if you want a soul, you should be able to get one if you want??

Looks about right. This is the basic idea of solipsism. Though imo solipsism goes a bit deeper. If you've never freaked out because of solipsism, there's probably a few more realisations left for you to find.

This won't make sense to most, but I wanted to share anyway. I just listened to a super nostalgic old song I had forgotten, and had such a deep, profound experience. I feel like there is a specific perspective I tapped into. It's the same feeling / perspective I sometimes experience when trying to imagine/remember existence before being born. It has its own "taste". It always feels weirdly nostalgic. I don't know exactly what triggers it, but it seems like a specific type of expanded awareness. It's not quite "ego-less", but the "ego" takes on a "divine"/"magical" quality, and views the regular human experience through a much much more sophisticated lens. It's like I'm more human than ever, yet also more detached from being human than ever. It reminds me of how psychedelics can make you experience ordinary things "for the first time" again. Now, sure, each human's own perspective has value and is unique. And sure, an experience of life from some kind of a god perspective might be more "ultimate" in some way, but I feel like the best way to go through existence would, in theory, be that "for the first time" perspective I mentioned. It's always unique, rich, and fascinating. I feel like it's heaven, but a "human" specific version of it. Maybe not a "perfect" heaven, but one with some old fashioned "style" or something .,.damn, I really can't communicate this properly?‍♂️?‍♂️ Anyway, the problem is.. equilibrium/homeostasis will always win. Extraordinary perspectives will always be a struggle to maintain. I don't yet understand how to solve this, or if I even should.

Boredom.

This will be interesting. ..but where is the Coral option?

There are a bunch I can think of off the top of my head. I'm wondering if there are any I'm not aware of. Doesn't have to be strictly anime, can be any kind of animation. "wtf is Turquoise anime?" Anime that elicits ideas/thoughts/feelings associated with the Turquoise stage, whether intended by the producers, or not. Or anime with themes/elements that stages like Yellow or Green couldn't fully appreciate. (inb4 "a-anime can't be Turquoise!!!! REEEEE")