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Doesn't look like anything to me.

Guys.. what are you even arguing about at this point..????

Like I said.. without bias?

A bold statement. You've never in your life made a statement this bold?? I hope you're prepared for what comes next.

Yep. There's a video suggesting that self-driving cars won't need trafficlights as they'll be able to communicate with each other much faster that what trafficlights enable. Arthogaan's link was a video critiquing this idea as "pedestrians can't use the road anyway". Looks like someone's getting what I'm saying?? Soon cars will be an actual investment, not a liability. Buy a 10k car, let it drive people for you generating 1k per month in income. Employers start having to bend over backwards to entice people to actually do jobs. Utopia achieved.

That's a lazy excuse tbh. I could explain the meaning of existence, the origin of the universe, etc. all in just a few sentences each. Leo's work isn't that complicated, and most of it can be summed up easily in the same way. This SES guy ain't gonna be multiple orders of magnitude more advanced than Leo and Leo's concepts. I think we may need input from @Loba and @Oeaohoo to settle this, without bias. Green?

It might've been his highest level realization, but the concept itself of an infinity of Gods was kind of obvious. It's like a stage Green/Yellow concept, tbh. I'm sure you have a point in there somewhere, but if you can't summarize it simply then I doubt its value. No book can really prove something as vague and abstract as "clear light". The possibility for transcendence of the ego may be self-evident, and the same for psychic powers, potentially, but I don't see how with enough contemplation "Clear Light" becomes an apparently natural/inevitable progression of consciousness. Some guy's thoughts are just that, a guy's thoughts. There's no way the author of SES is at Clear Light anyway. If Leo, at Yellow, is able to literally achieve telepathy with Gods, then someone at "Overmind" should be able to able to literally bend space and time to their will, and "Clear Light" would be like a thousand times more powerful than even that! lol. Even aliens thousands of years more developed than us aren't anywhere near where that author's supposedly at??

So the video says self driving cars are bad because, even though they fix having to wait for a green light, pedestrians still can't cross roads safely. And you suggest that this means trains are the more elegant option. But you must see the problem here.. Trains have literally every disadvantage of cars, with none of the advantages. Not only are train tracks insanely expensive, but pedestrians can't cross them even where there's zero traffic. (btw terrorism/hacking of self-driving cars is a really dumb argument, not even worth considering here.) Cars are also far more versatile. Let's say it's impossible to make a city 100% vehicle free just yet, but you still wanna make it more pedestrian-friendly. With trains you'd have to commit to expensive infrastructure which you'll have to get rid of anyway in 50-100 years. And you'll also cut the city in half for that time period with a railway. If instead of trains you went with mini-self-driving-cars, and you had regulations on speed and number of lanes, and maybe even external airbags, then really cars could mix with humans no problem. That's actually how horse carriages and early cars used to be a hundred years ago. They just mixed with the pedestrians. Self-driving cars, with their superhuman reaction times and situational awareness, would be even safer than the system we already used to have many years ago.

omg his profile pic??? I've seen a few of these Leo hate videos. They're just Blue/Orange being unable to fathom the existence of ideas beyond their level. Imagine being a child and finding a video of some funny looking arrogant guy on YouTube saying he's God. You'd just laugh at him with your friends. "It's the crazy guy, haha". See haters for what they are. Kids. Their opinions are not your concern.

Wait.. isn't that haram?

You get the worst of both worlds. Yep. Yes. Yeah, cities must be made for people. No exceptions. So many alternatives to cars. E-scooters, skateboards, even detachable rollerblades are coming back. Tunnels are an option, but only practical in a handful of cities. Soon we'll have self driving pods (self driving cars the size of a motorcycle), and drones that can fly people. Once we have drones we won't even need elevators for high-rises, and we'll have nothing stopping us from building way higher. Drones can double up as cars and personal elevators. Food can be delivered to a balcony. Literally everything can be simplified with drones. Where are trains in this picture? When self driving single-man cars that cost next to nothing are available, where tf are trains in this picture? Would anyone pay a premium to get on a crowded train? No. If someone wanted speed for extra cost, they'd just use a drone. And how far away are we from this future? We already have 100% functional driving cars. We're basically already there. By the time the £120B+ HS2 comes around, no one will even need it.

All that "clear light" nonsense is way more spiritual. In SD, Turquoise includes all those higher stages. So if Psychic and clear light are spiritual, then so is Turquoise. Yeah I've mentioned this too. Solipsism is likely his new "highest level" video. imo, there needs to be a new model. E.g. Yellow can be Yellow. Teal can be intellectual Turquoise, without any solipsistic/spiritual/deep ideas. Turquoise could be the integration of Teal, and transcendence of the intellect. And Coral could be the transcendence of natural human abilities, covering the "indigo"/"light" stuff. Holism is inherently spiritual. Seeing all as one consciousness is as spiritual as it gets. ..what. You mean he's proven his own psychic powers, and somehow got the clear white stage independently verified? Probably??? If you know, you know. That's the nicest interpretation of the accounts you could've possibly given him? I've heard ones less flattering. How do you distinguish between late Yellow and early Turquoise? What stage would you assign Leo??? And when I say Turquoise, I mean the Turquoise that includes indigo and everything. The Turquoise that's the final stage, not Ken's "average Joe" Turquoise. What exactly do you mean by transpersonal states? Is that just Fe? Becoming other people?

Someone grant this man the rank of Turquoise already.

Wait.. is that a @thisintegrated reference? I swear this is exactly what you'd say if you were trying to mimic me? Also.. ??? There are no real examples of anything above Turquoise. Ken's chart should be taken with a grain of salt. He's only like Low-Mid-Turquoise himself. Jesus/Buddha/Ghandi weren't even Low-Turquoise. They were like Green new-agers with bipolar. Jesus had some serious fucking anger issue, from what I hear. And Ghandi was a child molestor. Would you say you're somewhere within Turquoise, in SD? Edit: Oh OH !! I know this one !! CARL!!

What do you mean by "concrete-operational"? I don't see it.

Good question. No idea how an introvert would manage this. You really have to be able to enjoy talking to lots of people. Introverts usually have to rely on luck, and don't get many opportunities to develop social skills or confidence or any real preferences.

omg what's with the childish ego clashes on this forum?? It's like y'all ain't even pretending anymore to be anything above Blue. At least try to fake Green or something.. smh..

Talk to a few more hundred girls and you'll stop being so emotional. The fact you make posts like this tells me you're insecure, and this alone will gross people out. Fix that first. It's not hard.

Everyone has naturally different testosterone levels, different genetics, and different lifestyles. BMI is absolutely unable to account for any these differences. But yes, if you don't care about accuracy, it's fine for the average person at pointing out any obvious health risks.

BMI means little. Every pro bodybuilder is morbidly obese according to BMI.

Perhaps Leo is only interested in getting laid. It's all he ever talks about?

btw, is Spiral Dynamics more "spiritual mumbo-jumbo" or "practical self-help"? Should these threads be moved to the consciousness/awakening section? @Leo Gura

Oh nice, didn't know about this one. Leo's face makes all the difference. Though I wonder if the Solipsism video's the new "highest level" video he's made. This one's kinda basic in comparison, and less relevant for any Turquoise Actualizers.

It's there, in audio-only format. Just search.