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?? You're confirming my theory that Fe parents = spoiled children.

Dude.. you realize how low the probability of someone on the forum being a sensor is? Especially an introverted sensor with 7k posts? This forum absolutely does not attract sensors. They're here, I've seen one or two, but Carl's not likely to be one. You saw Carl using Si, and your underdeveloped Ni determined he must be a Si dom. And now you're doubling down. The fact you had 100% certainty here tells me you're immature. A well developed Ni user would have realized there's not enough data to go off to form such a conclusion. In addition, you typed me as a Fi dom, which is as far as it gets from a good guess. My writing style is very unmistakably NeTiFe. Literally in the original post of this thread you can see clear examples of each of those. Anyway, nothing wrong with suggesting he could be an ISFJ. But there's everything wrong with claiming that he is, without good reason. A few examples of Si is not good reason. You have to take the big picture of a person into account, and not isolate any single behavior/function. Si4 will look different to Si1. When you see Si, you have to consider which slot it's in, among another factors. What will your mum say when you get fat from all this popcorn??

Your NFP-ness is so obvious tho. I think Artsu's just new to MBTI or trolling. Ni doms, at the lower stages, can often be overconfident with their Ni. Ni leaves no room for error. It's right or it's wrong. Ni being so vulnerable leaves the Ni users feeling insecure. So what they do is double down to prove their Ni ideas with drawn-out debates.

No.. because you argue with personal feelings (Fi). I think he's just trolling, @Carl-Richard, don't take it too seriously.

You think he's an introvert, and a sensor? I will let Carl respond to this, lol. You're 100% a Ni dom, judging from these posts.

You're like Russel. I have Fi blindspot. It's my weakest function of all. Yeah, though those are his 4th and 3rd functions. Would be more accurate to say NeFi. This is how I typed Atheistic too, but he believes himself to be an INTJ, which I can't really argue against.

Just look at the way Russell Brand talks/debates, and compare it to a Ti user. The differences aren't superficial. His way of thinking is fundamentally different. He talks about things out of Green personal feelings. He refers to people in power as the bad guys, and only touches on topics he has strong emotional connections to, like "big pharma", "davos", "the elites", etc. And ever wonder why he uses words you've never heard of before? He's a Te user. Personality types have great predictive power and can account for even such minor details.

lol You yourself view Turquoise as N + Ti. Like Yellow, but deeper.

I agree with all of these, except not sure about Fi being associated with Turquoise. Ni would be Red/Orange/Yellow, I would think. But yeah, being a NeTi I do feel I've had an unfair advantage at developing a Yellow mindset early in life. Though I guess Orange INTJs always had an advantage at more practical (Orange) things?? I'm not super-familiar with his work, so I'll say you could be right about him being Blue. But the stages are not stereotypes, they're just levels of awareness. He doesn't need modern Orange views to be Orange. He grew up in a different culture to today, which would've made him appear Blue even if he was at Yellow. Edit: Just looked him up and turns out he did have quite a bit of Orange in him. He took his studies very seriously, learned multiple dead/useless languages, and in university "formed a semi-secret society for critiquing each others' literary works". He treated his work like a modern day Orange Computer Science student.

Orange is just a level of awareness. Orange values are stereotypes, like how "all INTJs wear black and like programming" is a stereotype. May be accurate for the most part, but not completely. If he grew up in a very Blue culture he's likely to have a Blue personality, and any worldbuilding will be based on Blue ideas about society from the real world. And also about growth, learning from experience, overcoming weakness/temptation, adventure, leaving behind a life of safety/stability, etc. So you think he's Orange?

Sure GoT is very Orange (+ Red), but his understanding of reality/people/society is far above average. idk much about his personality so I could be wrong, but he should be around Green. Tolkien's more "conventional" in his writing that Martin, but still an exceptionally deep thinker, so likely above Blue. Jeeeezus.. wtf.. I think he actually might be. Rare AF. Will have to listen to him a bit longer, but he's at least upper Yellow. Te and Ni not only strong, but really healthy too.

I feel bad for Leo??

Someone please tldr??

?? Very true. Such a shame 95% of INTJs are at Orange or Blue?? Interesting. You're right. I used to associate worker bees with sensors, but I guess low-IQ/Blue INTJs would be like this too. I'm watching Killing Eve atm. Literally about Red NTJ assassins? Ah, of course. Who else, if not a NiFi, to have complete conviction in gods, herbs, and plans.. @Carl-Richard will kill you. I would've thought INTJs would be by far the most solipsistic type, at Turquoise. I don't think they'd give a shit about helping anyone else in any way tbh. This is basically the same as ENTP? How do you feel perspectives/insights shift at Turquoise? Turquoise includes all this, but realizes the limitations of all the intellectual work, and focuses a lot more on "being" rather than.. anything else, ime.

*ahem* What MBTI and SD was the "dude"? and how does he compare to others of the same MBTI at different stages?? xNFP: Green: Johnny Harris, Brian Cox, Russell Brand, David Attenborough, @Asayake, @Loba, Jim Carrey, Johnny Depp, G. R. R. Martin. Orange: J. R. R. Tolkien, Tom Hiddleston, Shakespeare, @Carl-Richard Blue: Hayao Miyazaki?, Vincent van Gogh.

Of course. Even if your culture hated women, if you were an Fe user you'd eventually end up talking to women and realize they're not so bad. It's impossible to hide truth from Fe/Ti users. Edit: Did @Leo Gura seriously remove my emojis?!?!?!?????? I've just come back from vacation and am shocked to learn of what's taken place in my absence???? INTJ confirmed.

I can't believe how easy it is to talk to INTJ girls. (By easy I mean fun to talk to, and they're actually smart) Didn't expect it to go so well, so I've ended up with like 5+ GFs. Yeah yeah, unethical, but I'm an ENTP ..fuck it?‍♂️ ENTP x INTJ lives up to the hype, it seems. Getting INTJs to love you actually feels worthwhile. And the Ne-Ni, Te-Ti, etc. dynamic works, surprisingly, amazingly well with mature INTJs. It really is shocking. INFJ less great, but still pretty good. They're still smart, but far less exciting and get offended easily. INFPs are good as friends, and any relationship would work easily, but they're a bit too submissive and an ENTJ or something would seem a better match for them. ENTP x ENTP can work, and the energy is a bit crazy. But, again, not super exciting as there's no Fi. INTPs are very hit and miss. They often lack any emotional intelligence, and are very indecisive. They have all the ENTP cons, and none of the pros. ISTPs are like the bottom-of-the-barrel INTPs. Good as friends, but they really suck at every form of socialising. ENFPs are hit and miss. They seem good on the surface, but are often spineless. They will disagree with you, but not actually say anything. Damn annoying to an ENTP. I have experience with only 2 ESFJs, and while it's possible to make the relationship work, I just can't respect them.. like.. at all. They're gonna be religious 90% of the time, and will feel stressed out when you make them use their brains. So overall, ime, this chart is accurate AF. Despite me thinking I prefer extroverts, I actually prefer introverts when it comes to relationships. Shittier compatibility with ALL sensors, as predicted, has also been one of my observations. What has been your experience?

At least it was wood? I once walked fast into a stone ceiling of a castle?‍? But try to keep this thread tidy. Maybe add something relevant to the topic in an edit??

ENTP: Yellow: Slavoj Žižek, Barack Obama Great balance between logic, innovation, and feeling. Like a fusion of ENTP and INTJ. The quantity of insights of an ENTP, with the infallibility of a healthy INTJ. Green: Conan O'Brien, John McAfee, Tom Hanks, Robert Downey Jr. "Dreamers", like INFPs, but more accurately.. "immature visionaries". Too easily drawn to cool ideas about a perfect world. Though, the ideas are big, with large scale, and are mostly good. Orange: Michio Kaku*, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Bill Nye, Stephen Fry, Ricky Gervais, Steve Wozniak A bit like stereotypical INTJs. Focused, with no time for nonsense. Ne ideas mostly revolve around self and grandeur. Blue: Ivan Pavlov, Christopher Columbus*, Benjamin Franklin* Red: Oda Nobunaga Purple: Basically ESTP, as most (if not all) people start as sensors.

Good quote.

Fe user can't really be misogynist. Fi users can be.

I just don't waste my time. Mr. SES simply failed to pass my BS filters. His ideas beyond Turquoise are no more than conjecture. What preceded them both? Ken's model is a copy paste of SD, with some extras on top. Did you just insult our Gura? I don't. There may be psychic people, and those with great paranormal abilities, but in term of human ego development I don't think there's anyone above Turquoise. Turquoise has a crazy high ceiling. A person at peak Turquoise is complete. Yellow is overly intellectual, And Turquoise is like Yellow, but without the flaws. The stages aren't like IQ. You can't be born into a stage. Stages are something developed through life experience. You accomplish one thing, and then you allow yourself to go on to the next. How did Mr. Light "accomplish what he needed at Turquoise" and then moved on to better things? Green comes after you realize the limitations of Orange. Clear light comes when you realize the limitations of.. what?! How is Turquoise in any way limited? Or the many supposed stages above it?

Literally every Blue/Orange Te user at university has written a long essay on one thing or another. Means nothing. His approach to everything is dumb. If he had anything of value to share he'd have shared it, and I would've heard of it by now. Being vague, claiming to be the only source for gaining "superiority" and achieving "his level" are all red flags. If there's anything he sells, then that's scam confirmed. If he has ever used the word "course" in his talks, that's it's also a confirmation of a scam. The fact he claims to be at clear light, alone, tells me he's full of shit. There exists no one in the world who's at peak Turquoise. To literally claim to be at Tier fucking 5 is retarded. I've not even googled the guy. I don't need to. That's how obvious the red flags are.

LOL Guy is an idiot. That's a rare glimpse of my Ni.

Oh.. no.. not another ascended Coral master guru. That's a wall of text. I'll read after I've replied to everyone else.