The Rainmaker

This is some bluepilled BS.

Jung believed that psychology bridges the gap between religion and science. His methods and systems have radical healing potential on an alchemical level. He was one of the most awakened men in history.

Don't be mistaken. This might be Leo's best video ever. This is not him falling into a trap. If anything, he's saving himself from a trap. Even if you disagree fundamentally with his new awakening (which I don't), you at least have to admit that this is a much safer approach to solipsism. Preaching about solipsism would just be too much of a liability without these newly-laid foundations. His dissolution of the duality of "real" versus "imaginary" is, in my opinion, genius, but even if you disagree with the things he says, I think we can agree that this episode is a very necessary safety net for anyone who's in over their head with solipsism and suffering from psychiatric problems as a result of it. It's good for people like such to stay connected with the "real world" in some sense and this episode enables it.

This is the best episode of Leo's that I've seen so far. I've been waiting for something like this. It's a much safer approach to solipsism.

Imagination and creativity. Playing with my brothers and creating fictional worlds and characters with our stuffed animals. Playing pretend.

It works. So would something like chamomile. They also will probably calm your anxiety a bit for the trip.

You sound naively confident about that. What makes you think this could only happen to a moron?

Another danger of psychedelics (particularly if you're combining them with the occult) is the overwhelming attachment to youth and the past that practitioners develop. One thing that people on this forum don't talk enough about is this: the deeper you dive into these waters, the more you realize that an overwhelming amount of people involved have what I call a Neverland complex. And no, I don't just mean that in the context of Peter Pan.

Psychedelics, when mixed with black magick or any occult practice, can have dire consequences for the psyche. This combination will awaken you to a dark and seedy underworld hidden below the surface, hidden exquisitely in plain sight by the media. You will realize what a perverted and hedonistic and corrupt place this world is. You will recontextualize innocent memories in a more sinister context and that has the possibility of making you paranoid to the level of dissociations.

This is a common claim among naysayers regarding the spiritual and psychedelic communities. How would you rebut or dismiss such a claim? For the record, I'm not a believer of this claim. I'm the exact opposite. I'm just looking for a discussion on the matter.

I'd love if you could elaborate on what you mean by "coping in stage green" and what you would regard as transcending such. Are you referring to the utopian idealism of stage green?

I'm certainly not declining

Do you think there is any observable overlap between the creeds of New Thought and Satanism, and if so, how would you explain these similarities? Also, let me know if anyone wants to Skype on this subject because I could discuss it for hours.

Such is life when you're alternating in and out of a psychedelic regimen, I suppose. Not only are there things he has potentially reconsidered and run back, but there are also things that he may have made the decision to shield in fear of the danger associated with it. I think there are probably more interesting reasons related to the way his character and outlook have developed over time that would explain these inconsistencies better than just calling Leo inconsistent.

A mystical experience is not synonymous to a delusion. However, there's a Venn diagram with some overlap in the middle. That's not to say that any mystical experience is delusional, or that even most are. That is, rather, to say that episodes of psychosis can be marked by facets of mystical experiences. For instance, a guy like Connor Murphy who clearly had a real relationship with God that his psyche simply could not handle.

Something tells me that he's going through a transitional period right now. It seems that he is not only stewing in a new awakening, but also that he is receiving an unusual amount of backlash right now from the media.

I've definitely felt this firsthand.

Do you think that some of these core philosophies, such as embracing the devil and burning through of karma, and even forgiveness itself, can be misinterpreted as advice for abuse victims to return to their abuser(s)? Don't get me wrong-- I've used some of these techniques myself to surprising benefit, but don't you think that some of these philosophies combined can inadvertently lead to devilish decisions?

@catcat69123 I completely agree with the mentality of not giving someone that power over you. I mean more so, "can that practical advice potentially lead to impractical behavior?" I've used these techniques myself with favorable results previously, so I don't doubt their merit.

@Preety_India Burning through karma is related to the fulfillment of the innermost earthly desires and cravings, which can entail returning to an old partner based on raw feelings rather than true and practical compatibility.

The occult is real. I'll start off by saying that. Does that mean I believe in ghosts? No. But the occult encompasses a number of practices including tarot magick, herbal magick, rituals, and others which have a number of real-world applications. I am personally very thankful for the time I've spent absorbed in the occult because I am nearly six months sober from alcohol with its aid. I've seen the way it works on a practical level firsthand. However, while I was in the early stages of withdrawing from alcohol (and also withdrawing from marijuana), I took it too far with all the magick and fortune-telling and it led to a bout of psychosis with false memories. This was a vulnerable time for me given the change in equilibrium; in a way, the tarot was necessary in order to distract me, but I completely overdid it and thrusted too much faith into it because of how miraculous my new-found sobriety was. It was equivalent to schizophrenia in the sense that I was fully living in a fantasy reality for two months that was inspired by the bible and gothic horror, but I have no previous history with this condition. Luckily, I snapped out of it after returning to weed and I have been normal ever since; however, the false memories entailed such gruesome themes like hedonism, sex trafficking, gangsters, witches, Jesus, and Judgment Day, so I am lucky that I had the strength to take these delusions in stride and not do something drastic like kill myself or harm somebody else during the time where I believed this nonsense. If I hadn't been keeping my bible close and following ideas of pacifism, stoicism, and forgiveness, then I could have undoubtedly gotten myself into some serious trouble. There were various spiritual lessons that I took from these two months spent deluded. In a way, I'm thankful for the fact that I spent two months paranoid enough to think that people were going to possibly kill me, because it gave me the endorphins of someone having a near-death experience. I have a lot of new perspective about what how much I love and appreciate the illusion of life. But that was really dangerous. I also still consider the psychosis to have been an occult experience because I think that the occult relates largely to mental illness and the subconscious, but it was not a desirable experience that can be romanticized. It was literally like being possessed by the devil. I thought my town was like Salem.

@Benton My psychosis led me to believe dead relatives of mine were still alive, that all of my loved ones were gangster witches in the Illuminati who were in a heated extortion battle through the use of the tarot, and that a famous singer had secretly grown up in my town and was extorting the town for millions so that I would become her ghostwriter and sex slave.

@Benton @LSD-Rumi The occult is the manipulation of reality and the revitalization of the subconscious. It is very hard to put the occult into words, especially the further I delve, but there is a "lifting of the veil" of sorts that allows the occultist to awaken to a metaphorical "underworld" in those around us. Through the usage of ritual magick such as tarot cards, one can achieve a more "bare bones" view of the human experience and the people around oneself. The occult opens the doors to a deeper and more profound understanding of the mental illnesses and sexual desires that drive us and those around us. The best way of summarizing it would be that the occult (in practical usage; not if you're going ghost-hunting or something) will allow you to see the primal Freudian "id" that drives everyone, the id that the ego tries so desperately to keep from the surface. In the context of past memories, this type of thing is why the occult can potentially trigger a traumatic reaction-- you might realize more sinister and sexual undertones that existed in a situation from the past you thought was much more innocent if that makes sense. If I think of better ways to explain it, I'll keep posting in this chat.

I obviously have done that already @INFP RACOON BABY @Adodd

There's a lot that I could write about this subject considering the mystical and creative aspects of the psychedelic experience, but I was hoping I could get some other people's opinions on this considering there's not much literature about it out there. What role do you think entheogens have played in inspiring fairytales and folklore?