Samuel Etoo

What do you guys think of the idea of COVID passports? Also what do you guys think of people who are against taking the vaccine due to a distrust in the government as well as a lack of testing for long term effects caused by the vaccines which were produced in such a short period of time?

I’m asking for people’s opinion on the topic. I’m not specifically asking how the vaccine passports works. I’m more focusing on the aspect of needing an Vaccine/immune ID which may hold all of your personal medical data etc on their in order to be able to partake in any social events such as sports events or theatre etc. which everyone used to be able to go to without such measures. Even if you only need to show the ID once it doesn’t change what I’m asking.

Yes I agree. I don’t see why a simple test at the border would not be sufficient. I myself will not get the vaccine since I am young(22) and healthy and would rather deal with the disease itself rather than experimenting with my long term health by taking a vaccine which was made in less than a year with no possible testing to see how it will affect people in 5 to 10 years or so. It usually takes many years for a vaccine to be created and approved and everyone seems to be in a rush to take this vaccine because they want to go back to ‘normal’. If the passports are required to travel across borders I will not travel unless a simple test is sufficient. Many people also seem to think it is selfish to not get vaccinated however if the majority of people take the vaccine then we should hopefully get herd immunity. In addition if the vaccine is effective then any unvaccinated people will not be a threat to anyone. I may be being naive with this viewpoint however I find the idea of these COVID passports absurd since there have always been deadly viruses and illnesses and such a system has never had to be in place. By going into public we have to accept the risks that come with it. Despite this I can understand how people would see this as a valid option for being able to travel and hold large public events again without another rise in cases however one of the main points I wanted to ask everyone about was the idea that the passports may later be transformed into some sort of social credit system similar to that of China where everyone must have an online profile ID of some sort which would be needed to partake in any activities in society with profile ratings etc. once the COVID passports have been fully integrated. This may seem far fetched now however many people have suggested this could happen and it is something that I am personally against but would like to hear the opinions of others on this.

I’m not sure I understand that we have already had vaccine passports for years? I was talking specifically about COVID vaccine passports. In the past I have never had to show a vaccine passport to travel or to go any public event or place such as school. Hear in the UK where I am they are saying that these COVID vaccine passports will be ready soon so I am not sure how it is any where else. I’m pretty sure they have a system up and running in Israel. Would it really make our lives easier if we have to always show proof of vaccination or some type of immunity pass every time we go somewhere public such as school or the workplace. I feel that this is a bit excessive.

I’m not 100% sure on how they would work but I believe they may be either a card or an app of some sort. If they work with people only having taken a recent test then I see not much issue with them however if they only work if you have been vaccinated I think this could be problematic since there are some people who would rather not take the vaccine and if this prohibits them from being able to travel I think this would be a major problem. In addition, some suggest that this may only be used for vaccines etc at first but as everyone begins to use the vaccine passports and get used to them they will add more layers to it for example adding personal information etc and people may need them not only to travel but to go to any public event or even to go to the local supermarket similar to the social credit system in China. I am not sure if this will happen however I doubt this will be used as a short term fix and will likely become permanent. If this were the case I would definitely be against this. I understand individuality is a construct as well as freedom being a construct however I think this may take away too much of our freedom and we need a fine balance. What do you think of this possibility? here’s a link of a video which discusses the topic

Ofc it would. God loves fighting which we can see through history. If fighting was ‘bad’ it wouldn’t exist

Hi Leo, What do you think of COVID passports? Also what do you think of people who are against taking the COVID vaccine due to a lack of trust in the government as well as the fact that the vaccines were created in such a short time with no chance to test the long term effects of the vaccine?