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@DManKee Stop believing that there is "I" or "experiencer". Understand that everything that exists right NOW is perfection and there is nothing outside of direct "experience". Of course that is almost imposible to take like this and this is why we meditate and learn to let go of thoughts, beliefs and emotions and just BE.

@Twenty Things that lead to "physical death" of body may include lot of pain, because pain is ego's alarm mechanism that tells when it's under an attack. Problem that people and you seem to have is to think that there actually would be entity that dies or was born. Pain is just sensation, but it becomes suffereing when it is taken as message that you need to fight back. That conversation that we had here most likely flew over you, because it was too "advanced" - from the standard belief point that society has - that it's even hard to grasp what was said here rather than to understand it in deeper level. We weren't speaking just about the death of body here, but something way more profound was discussed HERE and NOW. Point was to see that the question WHO AM I leads to conclusion that there actually is no "I". Whatever is "perceived" is not it. And whatever is not "perceived" is not there, but only in imagination which also is "perceived". Most profound, but at the same time most ordinary insight is that whatever is HERE and NOW in this moment is all there could ever BE. Is perceiving "perceived" in this moment? If not then why would one believe that there happens any perceiving to begin with. If you can't find that perceiver that does not mean that it is hidden and can't be perceived. That only means that if you after that have thought that there actually would be one then you straight up believe to something that just seems to make sense. Same logic could be used like there actually is spaghetti monster, but unfortunable it can't be seen or perceived Same way you don't have direct "experience" of time, future or yesterday and that debunks their existence anywhere else than in your mind. Also if you would sit in silence and have no thoughts at all there would be no "I". You may say that there is sense of self left in silence, but actually if you would say that there would be that, then there would be thought about something being something else. Look where does that sense of self point towards. What is this mystical "I" that everyone talks about. -joNi-

@WokeBloke If "I" does not refer to sense of self nor does it exist in direct experience where it is then and what does it refer to? When some "living entity" refers to itself it could call itself as "I". Unborn unliving non-entity does not have verb "I". Also if that "I" is not in direct experience and you still claim that it is there - Do you claim that there is something outside of direct experience and if not where does that I then exist other than in your mind.

@WokeBloke Because "I" refers to sense of self and to the perceiver. In actuality there is neither of those in direct "experience". At least for Here where this writing is happening there is no one to perceive anything nor any sense of self.

@WokeBloke As movie I mean that which is left when concepts of subject and object are being thrown into garbage can. "Experience" is something that is thought of someone or something to have. Without anyone that which is left wouldn't carry word "experience" with it, because that misleads to think that there still would be subject. You are currently in "awarness phase" which actually is not that bad, but there is still separation between "subject" and "object" and only after they "merge" together what is left is one thing which is all there is and which could be called with any name you want, but after that there wouldn't be subject or object. Just try to understand this. Don't argue back like a children.

@WokeBloke Actually because there is no subject there is no object nor the experience so everything just is. Everything that is, is the same which is the movie itself. There is nothing behind or front of the movie and that movie covers everything so there is no room for anything else. Universe does not need to perceive itself, because it IS itself and that is the "argument" that there is nothing else than the movie.

@WokeBloke Universe itself, without being subjective. Think everything as movie happening by itself without anyone else to watch it.

@WokeBloke You think this too much with concepts and beliefs. You think that there couldn't be experience if there wouldn't be "I". Actually who says that it is "I" that experiences. Couldn't it be unicorn or girl with little skirt To be even clearer who said that there is actually anyone to "experience" anything. As long as you believe that "I" needs to be there in order to have experience of anything as much you are confuced.

@WokeBloke If you want to believe that there is actually subject, go my friend. Think this logically or watch your present moment. In present moment everything is object or how else it could be "perceived". There is actually no room in direct experience to be subject when everything is object. Whatever is not in present moment is imaginary. If there would be "I" then that would be object of "experience", if there would not be then it would just be simply a thought.

@WokeBloke Which death you refer to, because physical one really does not exist anywhere, but in your mind in present moment. "You" actually does not exist forever and to be clear it only is real in your mind as long as you think it and when not then not. Actually you don't know if "you" live or not right know, because that is an assumption that you believe in, because it is easy and feels safe to. Who said that when "I" - that there actually was not to begin with - is being taked away there is no experience. "I" is experience that is being had, not the one that experiences. That is easily proved in your direct experience. If there is "I" in that then it means you still believe to that and this is just experience of "someone elses". Find out which this is . If there is not then I would say that in this case it would be extremely sure that "I" was never there.

Exactly. At this very moment do whatever you want to do and before you say oh I should think about future and find good decisions I say that yeah you could do that if you wanted to do that. Just remember not to do it, because you have to do that. I would say that most of the time you just want to BE HERE and NOW and enjoy silence of BEINGNESS. Point of contemplating should be to maximize your time you have just to do things you want and to BE wherever you are knowing that point of life is just to enjoy it and that's it. If you have more questions go and let me know and we can have further analysis on the things you have on your mind.

@Kalki Avatar Side note - You don't take this moment right NOW as dream only, because you label it as real. What is the difference between this moment and the moment you think you are in dream. Do you have have evidence that the dream you think you have inside this real life actually happens inside this moment, but would be just worth the same? That is something for you guys to contemplate

@Gabith Have a dream journal where you write down everything you remember about your dream immendiately after you wake up or otherwise you won't remember that much. That will teach you to be more conscious when dreaming. Some say that apple juice makes you have more vivid dreams - but is this true - who knows. Check guides about how to lucid dream and in those you can decide that which happens in dream. Remember that first if you are not so good lucid dreamer you can't do everything, because too intense dreams could wake you up. That is also something which requires being patient. Secondly you should write everything down that you think would help you to achieve any vision in your "real" life. You live more in this "life dream" so of course it makes sense that you should put more effort to this instead of dreams at night. Best way to learn from yourself is to just to be around people and then contemplate which works or which not and then adjust your actions based on your conclusions. If you allow yourself to learn from your past relationships I would be sure that there are lot of important teachings and that is reason you should just keep grinding that which you want to be better at. Lastly just start meditating and writing, because those 2 cure all your problems that you could have. Strong mind leads to strong decisions : ) -joNi-

@patricknotstar Actually whole spirituality is so simple. Accept present moment as it is and ta - da you won the game and you are happy. Someone : But, I can't accept present moment, because I am not happy NOW. The reason you are not happy is, because you don't accept that which is. Acceptance and happiness come same time, because they actually are synonyms. To do anything in life is to be able to BE. You work so you don't need to work. After you have done everything you needed to do you may NOW allow yourself to relax. Point of spirituality is to allow yourself to relax without the need to do anythining in order to BE. Meaning of no desires is actually just seeing through the illusion that happiness would come from the thing you do instead of it existing by its own all the time. You can either choose to smile NOW or be sad, but why wouldn't you loosen a little bit and stop being so stiff. Look around you - this is a miracle - you can actually do whatever you want. Someone : I meditate so someday I could accept present moment as it is. Why don't you accept it NOW? Didn't you ever use cheat codes in video games? I give you one cheat code to this game that you call a life. Remember that you have to actually do this NOW and not just read instructions or otherwise it won't work. Smile just, because you can smile and remember that you are so so so much more beautiful when you do that <3 Know that the only difference between BEING adult and child is that children allow themselfes to play this awesome game and adults just try to perform it. Allow yourself to relax by knowing that you don't need to do anything particular at this very moment. Understand that this calmness is always there, if you wouldn't fill it with stress. So peacefull, isn't it. NOW when you know that this is always around you - ask yourself why would you ever lie to yourself that this gift is not here -joNi-

@Forza21 Can you be happy without the thing that you would see as restriction for your happiness? Can you be happy without ever trying skydiving? Can you be happy without running marathon or 10 of those? You know what makes you happy and follow that, because people around you will always tell you to do this and that. If you don't have passion to be the best football player then there is no reason for you to start doing that and most likely you won't success in it, because lack of interest.

@Buba To continue playing the game and finding rewards that you have suffered for. If you now restart the game these challenges would come again. Almost always after very deep suffering comes big growth and that is life's cycle. When you play the game play it to the end or otherwise there could be lot of that you miss out.

@blankisomeone Life is tough, but so am I. There are challenges, but they teach me valuable lesson and I should be guided by the world. And lastly give more love to world that you have ever had yourself and that will make you very strong and loving person <3

@blankisomeone First of all if you are teenager you shouldn't stress that much about your familys financial situation, because that for real is not your business. If you disconnect from your friends you don't have anyone to talk your feelings to and that can lead to stupid decisions. I am so happy that you asked help from this forum and it would be even better to help beautiful souls like you to make most of your life and maybe help your parents on the way. I mean if you think what would be the best thing to happen your parents that would be you to be happy and that alone could put smile on their faces and I guess that you would like to do that. After some x amount of time helping first yourself to grow and enjoy life at the fullest I am 100 % sure that you have potential to help them. That you have passion to help them is actually very heart warming to hear and from alone that I can guarantee that you will enjoy life a lot, but first before we get to that we need to talk about what are your plans to put that thought into action. Much love, you golden <3 <3 <3

@Tyler Durden First of all that is wrong to say NOW taking account of the situation and also that is quite wrongly worded, because even if you all actualized.org users would go to commit suicide "I" would be here and I would register that which happened. Would you see that your loved ones suffer? - no, because you wouldn't exist then to see that. But still our job NOW when it is about someones life we need to be extremely sharp when we answer.

@Whatever If you could bench 100 kg and your friend only 50 kg wouldn't you tell him/her when (s)he asks if it is that much that no you are just beginning?

@blankisomeone First of all right NOW let's have a conversation about why would you want to kill yourself then we can discuss this topic if it is necessary to do. Okay, so what is the reason that you see that you would like to die?

Also I forget to mention that drawing is a great way to express your thoughts and feelings to the world if you are good enough. Knowing that you can express something leads to more calm state of mind and confidence levels would skyrocket. Why wouldn't you start journal there where you draw some pictures and people could share the love that you put on them <3

@MarkusR Try to find what are the interest of people you talk to in daily basis and when you talk about these things they are more willing to deepen the conversation and that way it gets more enjoyable to both of you. Also find enough people who talk very deep things so that you don't feel need to have profound talks 24 7. Btw if music is your passion then DM me on this forum and we can start talking about it, because I am music maker and I produce melodical electronic music : )

@Danioover9000 Does the food taste good in my mouth? Who is the only one here that can answer to that question? If anything gives great results I would call that working. How could anyone give better answer to your question that which was being given NOW. Also if you think that drawing helps to solve problems why didn't you draw that particular problem and pursued the answer? Also it depends on the problem that you are having - if you are hungry and you don't have food at your home I would say that going to the shop, ordering food or going to somewhere to eat would work better than drawing some macaronis Hope that this helped guiding you closer to the answer : )

@playdoh I am not giving the advide that you asked for, but the one you need. So called manifastation works pretty damn perfectly when you start thinking like 20 minutes in a day about how could you be more wealthy, You automatically would start to reorganize your behavior so you hit your goals. Understand still that pursuing wealthiness is not one of the fastest things to be done. If I would be you I would think what I want to do in my life and maybe think about building business to that field so you hit 2 birds with one stone. Here is something for you to think about. If you chase money for you to be happy then why wouldn't you chase happiness instead. With that I just mean trying to be more happy during your days and appreaciating your moment to moment life would be pretty strong start. Starting to meditate for x amount per day and contemplating your future for z amount per day would get you extremely good beginning into your dream life. Think meditating like as an investment for your future self and more you do that better your future would be. Not forgetting to say that meditation helps you almost immendiately and little results come fast, but for more mindblowing outcomes you would need to do that for little bit longer. Many people who seek for money actually seek for peacefulness, but that can be achieved just by meditating. When you finally after 6 months from NOW think that same question you see that you are actually closer to your dream life and that could be only, because rewiring mind has pretty exponential effects on your thinking abilities and happiness overall. After that period of time you could strategize easier how to hit that wealth, but most likely you would be so in love with the beautifulness of Universe that you wouldn't need money so much. That does not still say that you can't play the game of becoming wealthy, but that wouldn't be the source for your happiness, because that is coming from the inside and that is permanent. Hope that this message has positive effect to your life <3 -joNi-