Harlen Kelly

@Johnny Galt So you are also an ivermectin enjoyer?

@GoobyBooby Ivermectin is produced by big pharma, you don't like big pharma, why not be skeptical about Ivermectin as well? I am just trying to understand the brain of a conspiracy theorist. @Opo There is ivermectin for animals and humans, it's just not effective when it comes to combatting the effects of COVID. @Johnny Galt That's what you call anecdotal evidence, I highly doubt you understand the ramifications of relying on anecdotal evidence. If you really wanted, you could find plenty of anecdotal, worthless evidence of water killing people, that doesn't mean you should stop drinking water.

@GoobyBooby Then why irrationally obsess over ivermectin if that's another drug that's produced by ''big pharma''?

It is indeed a strawman but not in your favor, it's a strawman because cutting people's hands is not remotely callous enough compared to killing a person. So there you have it. This is a farcical proposition to say the least, there are countries that have already implemented the most robust rehabilitation process in their prisons successfully, maybe read about what actually has been proven to work instead of making assumptions.

Maybe regular joe rogan viewers watched the video and disliked it.

This is an illogical, unscientific argument. Asking random people something does not prove the validity of your thesis, doing studies based on millions of data points from millions of people does. This is so basic. The media will reflect the average level of psychological development of a people, the media here in the US is not very holistic, systemic and advanced because the average American isn't. This is another unscientific, groundless argument. Can you prove conclusively that ''media'' created the most pertinent issues of today's society? If you don't have any evidence for that, why would you make that argument? That's how the average joe rogan viewer thinks, and they actually think they are making an intellectually valid point by saying that. If rigorous scientific and autonomous thinking was taught at schools, this wouldn't be such a wide-spread phenomenon.

Being fit is not a better defense for covid than the vaccine, this has been proven scientifically already. That does not mean that should not exercise, it does not mean that a fit person is as vulnerable as an obese person, it means that being fit in and of it self will not protect you from covid as much as the vaccine will.

@GoobyBooby Well, you would not seriously debate or argue with a flat earther for example, you will simply discard his point view because of how unsophisticated it is. Not every perspective or ideological position is worth being discussed. Some should simply be discarded and laughed at.

There are many countries that are considerably more developed than the US. The farce right wing circles sold you about american exceptionalism is just that, a farce. There is a very wide gap between the level of education of the average american, and the level of education of the average south korean, german, etc.. Canada, germany, sweden, norway, finland, south korea, etc...

You sound like your everyday trumper/conspiracy theorist.

The way joe rogan is spreading misinformation and dull-wittedness is alarmingly insidious. The best defense for covid factually speaking, after millions of tests and pew research by people who have dedicated theirs lives to the field of medicine is the vaccine. Pretty much.

Of course it does, none of what I said is in contradiction with being clear, honest and straight forward with your communication.

Exactly, and vice versa.

@Leo Gura Basic decency does not imply you owe or should have a romantic relationship with anybody, that applies to both men and women. So do incels who believe women owe them sex after not getting sex from a woman they are attracted to, does that justify their feelings or belief system? The answer is no. You should strive to reduce emotional damage, but the fact that she feels hurt does not mean he should have a relationship with her. People will have sex and relationships with whoever they deem appropriate, not because they are obligated to, but because they want to.

Nothing could further from the truth. In your example, do you think the hypothetical girl owes or is obligated to have sex with the hypothetical guy because he spent a lot of money on a huge dinner? And would it be a ''Wholesome action'' for her to have sex with him in that example?

I never made a prescriptive argument nor did I make a suggestion as to how people ought to behave, what I stated is that nobody owes anybody a romantic relationship or sex for that matter. What you wrote doesn't have anything to do with what I have stated. Just to exemplify how damaging the expectation/belief that other people owe you sex or a relationship is, men who believe women owe them sex are referred to as incels, rightfully so. People will have sex and relationships with whoever they deem appropriate, not because they are obligated to, but because they want to.

@TK2021 Expecting a relationship or sex is not ''practicing love'', is the bedrock of selfishness, the person expecting that is doing so to fulfill their own particular selfish needs.

Even if deep intimacy was built, that does not imply OP owes her a relationship. That's an indefensible ideological position that stems from the belief that women are doing you a favor by sleeping with you, which is just that, a belief. That's a made up rule, a very convenient and sneaky rule at that. You can send the message as well.

If you look at sex from the point of view of a win - lose paradigm, as if there is only one party that is enjoying and proactively wanting the experience, then your opinion on this issue would make sense, otherwise your opinion is rather unfounded and fallacious. The fact is that nobody owes anybody a relationship or sex for that matter, and that is the implication when you think a person is an ''asshole'' for not having a relationship after sex. That's completely devoid of any sense.

Exactly, she would be considered cute in brazil and that's about it. Brazilian dudes would look at white russian chicks and think they are the hottest women on the planet, and western white dudes would look at brazilian/latin women and think they are the hottest women on the planet. It's just perception.

She is definitely good looking but chicks with her attributes are very common in countries like Colombia (I highly, highly suggest you go to Colombia, very fun and welcoming country). Maybe you guys find her extra attractive because those physical features are not so common here in the US but in Colombia (and most latin countries for that matter) she would be maybe a bit above average.

Otherwise known as the wall, a reality check.

@blessedlion1993 Short answer, no. In fact, the reason why she slept you with you the same day was primarily because your are carefree and detached from the outcome. @Leo Gura He never once mentioned that he intended to see her again or keep her around, that's a baseless assumption.

@zazen The fact is that you don't owe women a relationship after having sex with them, such an ideological position is as absurd as ''women owe me sex just because I feel attracted to them''. Nevertheless, be clear and straight up with your communication to reduce emotional damage. If you don't plan on having a formal relationship with her, hint at the fact that you are not interested in that from the very beginning. It would be more emotionally beneficial for both of you to part ways.

Exactly, anybody with a fair amount of experience with women understands this.