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Most brothers and sisters hate each other. Most friendships are fake and superficial. If men and women could truly be friends, there wouldn't be any questions or discussions about it. Daddy and mommy issues. Neediness. Lack.
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It's not possible to go beyond tier one unless you're dealing with complex systems. Most people who claim to be stage Yellow or above are simply deluded. If you're not a politician, you are not tier two. If you're not an influencer of a large audience, you are not tier two. If you are not a CEO, you are not tier two. You catch my drift. And while having one or more of these things might indicate your level of development, it's not the only factor. You could have gotten there by luck. The real test is time. If you're able to maintain yourself through the system, and you're growing, then you're tier two. Otherwise, you're full of shit.
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I get the message, but I don't think all women who do this are evil puppet masters. Sometimes, they're just afraid to give the dude a firm no. And believe it or not, in some cases they're afraid for the dude as just to not hurt his feelings. Some girls are nice, but still do this because the alternative is too harsh from their perspective.
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Gesundheit2 replied to ZenAlex's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
It does and it will, albeit indirectly. And if it doesn't, then I'm not the one complaining, so no loss. Sure thing. -
@Hibahere There are pros and cons to everything. Our culture is highly protective of women which is good in essence, but at the extremes it becomes suffocating. Contrast this to western culture which gives women a lot of freedom, the women there fall easily for sexual predators like Tate because the family system there is too weak against freedom it cannot protect the young girls. So as a result of this, a lot of western women end up having to learn the lesson the hard way. It's not a perfect world, and there are always tradeoffs. But if you're conscious, you will be able to make it anywhere. I would say your best bet would be on achieving good education and then moving out of the country entirely. I don't think your parents will oppose that if you prove mature and responsible and you are not too young.
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Gesundheit2 replied to ZenAlex's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
It's necessary that some people complain so that 9 to 5 becomes 10 to 4 and shorter. If everyone becomes happy with 9 to 5, it will quickly become 8 to 6 or longer. -
@zurew I don't know about other countries, but my country's law system is secular and reserves civil rights as long as they don't openly oppose traditional laws. A perfect example of this opposition would be gay marriage (or even relationships), as they are absolutely forbidden under all circumstances. But it's not just social pressure and harmless judgement that you'd deal with. You could actually get killed or at least physically hurt. I've heard several stories of men killing or beating up their sisters, mothers, daughters, wives, etc. as a way of disproving of her deeds in order to defend their honor, even if that's against the law. It's not just imagination or social conditioning. These stories are real. Although sometimes, the offender gets their fitting punishment, but when that happens, the damage is done and it's already too late. It's not like you would imagine. You might be thinking that 90% of women follow the social norms, but there are 10% that don't and OP could be one of them if she's up to the challenge. Well, I haven't been to Pakistan, but if it's like my country, then the percentage is absolutely 100% that follow social norms (I'm not exaggerating), and not a single female in the country lives on her own away from family or husband. The only scenario I've seen that did not follow that rule is if the girl is studying for college in another city, so she has to move to that city temporarily away from her family. But even that is highly controlled and she is sent there with at least one female friend or family member.
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I haven't taken the test, never clicked on the link, and I probably won't. I don't think there is any point in taking it, because: It's not a test of sexism levels. It's a test of loyalty to feminism and your degree of dogmatism about it. The lower your score, the more feminist you are, according to the test at least, which brings me to my second point which is: Feminists themselves disagree a lot, therefore there is no such a thing as feminism, and there won't be. Each woman (and man) has their own version of feminism. Some women who consider themselves feminist, love the "benevolent sexism" that is supposed to be a bad thing according to the test. I have seen feminists complaining that chivalry has gone extinct. And some women even love the hostile sexism (you guessed it, they're also feminist), and these usually complain that men have become way too feminine. I don't think a simple test can define my identity. I have taken a lot of tests (for different stuff) in the past and concluded that they are stupid and very limited. The way the analysis is made is generally flawed because the assumptions it's based on are flawed in the first place.
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Gesundheit2 replied to Hibahere's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
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@Something Funny @zurew Moving to a friend's house is like committing suicide. There are only three places a woman is allowed to live in in a third world country (especially the more religious it is): Parents' house. Husband's house. The grave.
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Is there an explanation for this? Because both layers seem to be equally a direct result from early childhood conditioning. And if resistance and repression are related, does this imply a certain relationship or a hierarchy between them? Like are they technically two different depths of the same phenomenon? Or does one like feed into the other?
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@Emerald But wouldn't that be bypassing my authentic self that is both masculine and feminine? I mean if I replace my negative feminine of victim's mindset with positive masculine accountability/responsibility, then my authentic/positive feminine will still be repressed and it will still not be able to express itself because I haven't yet addressed it, nor given it the outlet, right? For example, the need to express vulnerability won't be allowed and I would possibly become neurotic and workaholic. Would you agree?
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@Emerald Yes, I understand the general concept and I agree with it. I was just asking about the flaws that you mentioned and how they might look like after integration. I was expecting an answer like a bullet points list where each flaw/shadow is put against the integrated version. Like, considering that victim's mentality is a feminine shadow, the integrated version of the feminine would be being comfortable with vulnerability. Is this the correct association? And what about the rest?
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Interesting! What would an integrated guy look like in reference to these particular flaws you mentioned? Could you name the integrated version for each flaw individually?
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Damn! I think I'm finally entering stage Green. It's in my perception now, not just my thoughts. This is bad. I'm gonna lose the ability to bash on hippies
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@DocWatts Thanks! That was clear and informative. I appreciate you introducing new terms into my awareness.
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Family dynamics are not so simple in third world countries.
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Does this mean we're always biased with some sort of perspective that colors our worldview? Is everything like a self-fulfilling prophecy? If so, how to determine the truth of that claim? Cuz if we follow this line of reasoning we will inevitably end up in a strange loop.
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@Rishabh R Actualized is just one source of information. Don't make it your only one.
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If we consider the mind's relationship with the body similar to the relationship between software and hardware, then yes, ideology is inevitable. It's the kernel that runs your operating system, and you can't possibly function without it. However, that doesn't make all ideologies equal, nor does it say anything about any idea being good or bad, because everything is relative and relationships between things can change at any time. There's also the difference between entertaining an idea and holding it lightly vs. being dogmatic and closed-minded about it. Rigidity of ideas can be more useful in day to day life, especially if your environment is highly stable. On the other hand, having a fluid mind has its obvious benefits too. Everything has pros and cons. A funny paradox would be an ideology that demonizes ideology altogether except itself, and/or an ideology that denies that it's an ideology in the first place.
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Gesundheit2 replied to Eternal Unity's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Another earthquake, this time at 6.4 Richter. -
I think one possible explanation is that you haven't socialized with blondes enough because you live in a mostly tamil/brunette environment. You crave the European features because they're advertised well and are very rare where you live. I would bet that many Europeans crave Indians too. The more polarity/difference, the higher the attraction. Personally, I'm more into Latinas. It's probably the furthest ethnicity from mine.
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Gesundheit2 replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Sounds perfectly reasonable. I especially like the second realization, because it's more practical and I value that. In practical terms, we don't need to know everything. Most people are severely ignorant and undereducated and they still live and reproduce. Most people know how to drive cars, use smartphones, use the washing machine, etc. without knowing the technical details of how any technology works. Sports players almost don't know anything about human anatomy and they utilize their bodies well enough to make a living. Heck! Even scientists and professionals themselves might not know every technical detail of their field of experience. For example, most programmers don't know how computers work on the most hardware level, they just know how to make software, and that's enough for them. I think it works out well to be an expert in one field at least, and to have the openness to learn a little bit about a lot of different stuff. You don't want to be the Wikipedia guy who knows a lot but only in theory, nor the geek who doesn't know anything except his little bubble. -
The response would largely depend on how you deliver and how she responds, but it's generally safe to play innocent and dumb. Although, that doesn't generally happen because most people are not too conscious to catch up on it. Most of the times, they're just running a certain program/virus from past trauma and they're expecting a comforting result. So if you give them the comfort, they won't look past it. It's generally safe to assume that nobody is really interested in truth. However, if they are persistent for some reason, you can tell them that you are willing to be flexible and compromise, and then return to distracting them further away from the topic.